mr. wilson? >> i think that the perception that the government is so closely watching them and they are subject to much tighter regulation and supervision gives investors the impression that they will be protected by the government, that the federal reserve who is involved in their operations is responsible for not letting them fail. and i think there's this system set up where the intruive regulation has replaced the market discipline that you usually see in banking markets. so the cost of funding for these institutions is much less than the cost of funding. it's more than -- on average 25 basis points. so there say definite cost of funding advantage to being a large bank. >> mr. frank mentioned that he felt like the larger financial institutions actually didn't benefit from dodd-frank. i wanted to quote some things that some people that run some of these financial institutions, lloyd blankline said that goldman sakz would be one of the biggest beneficiaries of this reform. jamie diamond pointed

mr. wilson's bank. they just got a little bigger and they do exactly what mr. lson's bank does, they serve main street and i hope we can fix it. i yield back my nonexistent time. >> i would like to thank all of our witnesses for their testimony. all members will have five legislative days within which to submit additional written questions for the witnesses to the chair which will be forwarded to the witnesses for their response. without objection all members will have five legislative days within which to submit extraneous materials to the chair for inclusion in the record. the hearing stands adjourned. >>> all this week american history tv in prime time has been looking at watergate, 40 years later. tonight at 8:00, we begin with the cbs news special report from august 8th, 1974, leading into president nixon's address to the nation. that's followed by president nixon's address to the nation announcing his resignation. and at 8:50 p.m., a "washington post" event with journalist bob woodward and carl bernstein. elizabeth drew and ruth marcus, as well as ken hugh

this home is the home to which president and mrs. wilson moved the very day they left the white house, on march 4th, in 1921. they both lived here the rest of their lives. president wilson passed away about three years later. mrs. wilson, remarkably, lived here until 1961. and then upon her death, left the home to the national trust for historic preservation. and so it was open to the public museum in 1963. so we're now more than 50 years as an institution here in washington, d.c. it's good to see all of you here tonight. our program is entitled smile while you kiss me sad ado, world war i songs. let me set the stage here, and introduce our speaker quickly. we like to say here, we like to remind people here that president wilson imagined the world at peace, and then proposed a plan to achieve that vision. and that's a remarkable accomplishment when we think of it from the vantage point 100 years later. but remarkable if we transport ourselves back in time to think about the world in which he lived, and the remarkable accomplishment that it

mr. wilson and several witnesses said they saw mr. made it clear he had no weapon on him. would the police's disclosure of information be the same as it is with mr. brown being the dead person. if you believe they would be the same. you believe this investigation is going in a way that you can accept. if you do not believe they would be the same then you can understand the kind of heat and passion that is exploding on the streets of ferguson, missouri. i want the people to empathize -- i do not think it is an extreme reaction when you look at the realities of people on the ground. you look at the data of the people that underlie those realities. these are things that are not made up. you see extreme biases. how black men go through the criminal justice system, i am able to step back and empathize with police officers and know they have a tough job. and when a police officer makes the decision, you can make the wrong choice. but it is a split second decision. i can empathize with that stress and strain. however, there is an 18-year-old

mrs. wilsonthe world in which he lived, and the ideas that were abroad at that time and the remarkable accomplishment that it was for him in the middle of a world war to imagine what the world ought to look like at peace. and to prepare that that should be our, sort of default position, that there ought to be a league of nations, and that people ought -- that nations ought not to engage in aggressive war. that trip back in time. we are surrounded in this room by gifts of state that president wilson received. one of the reasons he received so many spectacular gifts, frankly, is, first because he was the first american president to go to europe while he was in office. secondly, because the world so hoped for him to succeed in the mission he had taken on of ending the catastrophe that was world war i. i think it's hard for us to think now about how shocking world war i was to the people who had to live through it. so, the music of that era, like this house, is something that can help transport us b

mr. wilson, remember mr. wilson from "dennis the menace"? you don't want to be that. kids are worse than that. if that's the case, talk to the parents. >> call the police, tase them. >> have that conversation. hope it doesn't come to that. >> an inside joke here. >> if the parents aren't responsive, what do yo do? >> i say to the parents, this is an insurance risk. i don't want your children to get hurt. >> not in my yard. you are not saying i'm concerned about the rose bushes, it's your children. that way you look like the good guy. if that's not happening, the thorns are not going to help. the kids will find a way up the fence. they are going to go up your driveway if they are that determined. focus on the parents. >> okay, we have a question from across the street. i thought this said, or call child protective services if you thought the child was in trouble. >> we are going way over. >> hey, that's not for you to decide. that was in the notes. >> you are very thorough, kathie lee. >> call child protective services? >> if you think the parents are being neglectful

mr. wilson?> i have heard those numbers, yes, sir. >> again, it's a sad situation as far as the plight of community banking goes. i'm also -- although it wasn't advertised that dodd-frank would lift the plight of low and moderate income people, i believe quite the opposite, although not advertise eadverti hurt them. what i have seen is that an analysis of credit cost for those people pre and post dodd-frank, credit cards are now on average 224 basis points, over 2 percentage points greater on residential mortgages, jumbo, 45 point basis great conforming, 14 points greater, small unrated corporate debt, 41 basis points. here is an interesting one. auto financing, 17 basis points less. isn't that interesting since auto dealers were exempt from dodd-frank's cfpb? we know the fed has shown their study on qm, once fully implemented without exempting the 95% of mortgages that one-third of blacks and hispanics will not be able to obtain a mortgage due to dti. i'm still waiting to see the outrage on the

this home is the home to which president and mrs. wilsonn 1921. they both lived here the rest of their lives. president wilson passed away about three years later. mrs. wilson, remarkably, lived here until 1961. and then upon her death, left the home to the national trust for historic preservation. and so it was open to the public museum in 1963. so we're now more than 50 years as an institution here in washington, d.c. it's good to see all of you here tonight. our program is entitled smile while you kiss me sad ado, world war i songs. let me set the stage here, and introduce our speaker quickly. we like to say here, we like to remind people here that president wilson imagined the world at peace, and then proposed a plan to achieve that vision. and that's a remarkable accomplishment when we think of it from the vantage point 100 years later. but remarkable if we transport ourselves back in time to think about the world in which he lived, and the remarkable accomplishment that it was for him in the middle of a world war to imagine what the w

mr. wilson, is a kind of generalized salute. kind of thing a group marches down the street singing. and popular songs now had to do that. but popular songs are mainly good at the emotionalism that exists between two people. in all of the history of popular music in this country, probably 98% of the songs have two characters in them. i, and you. and then it's about what's going on, or not between us. so a more typical song is when you start getting into the intense personal emotions. now, in world war -- i'm sorry, in the civil war, young men going off to war, never having been away from home before, and very young. and it was a much less sophisticated country. a lot of them farm boys. a lot of them immigrants. an awful lot of the union army spoke with an irish accent during the civil war. they did fight a good part of that war for the north. the songs of the civil war that were in effect love songs, were about a boy and his mother. there were very few that were stories of romantic love. about how much i miss you, and i'll come h

mrs. wilson00 years later, but it's perhaps even more remarkable if we transport ourselves back to his time and think about the world in which he lived and the ideas that were broad at that time and the remarkable accomplishment that it was, put him in the middle of a world war to imagine what the world ought to look like at peace and to propose that that should be our sort of default position that there ought to be a league of nations and that people ought -- that nations ought not to engage in aggressive war. so this house allows us to take that trip back in time. we're surrounded in this room by gifts of state that president wilson received. and one of the reasons he received so many spectacular twists, frankly, is, first, because he was the first american president to go to europe while he was in office, but secondly, because the world so frequently hoped for him to succeed in the mission he had taken on of ending the catastrophe that was world war i. i think it's hard for us to think now abo

mr. wilson son, but they're not limited to love sole judges.ar ended, world war i love songs continue, but they changed almost overnight. sudd suddenly, we're not going off to france, we're coming home from france. and we're coming home to a different country. we don't know that yet, obviously. it takes us a while to figure that out. but we're coming home changed. we now have several million doughboys who had had furloughs in paris. i'll let you sort that out for yourselves. they've seen the world in ways that kpept for a tiny percentage of the population, the leaf of the guilded age had not seen the war. my wife likes to say that she wished she had been born in the guilded age so she could wear the clothes. it was the guilded age, people who went to europe. they were on the good deck of the titanic. everything worked out for this em so the sense of people being changed, returning to a nation changed, begins to appear in our songs in 1919. which is really where you get the last of the world war i songs. what's interesting about this song is tha

this home is the home to which president and mrs. wilsonhe very day they left the white house, on march 4th, in 1921. they both lived here the rest of their lives. president wilson passed away about three years later. mrs. wilson, remarkably, lived here until 1961. and then upon her death, left the home to the national trust for historic preservation. and so it was open as a publicmy seem in 1963. so we're now more than 50 years as an institution here in washington, d.c. it's good to see all of you here tonight. our program is entitled smile while you kiss me sad adieu, world war i songs. let me set the stage here, and introduce our speaker quickly. we like to say here, we like to remind people here that president wilson imagined the world at peace, and then proposed a plan to achieve that vision. and that's a remarkable accomplishment when we think about it from the vantage point of our own lives 100 years later. but it's perhaps even more remarkable if we transport ourselves back to his time and think about the world in which he lived and

mr. wilson. >> now my understanding is that you said on this show last week he attempted to get out of the car but he couldn't open the door, and you're talking about the police officer. he reaches out and grabbed mike brown by the throat and mike is somewhat of a big guy. the officer, according to my client, was having a difficult time and he continued to grab him. you said that on this show. you can't deny that. >> that is correct, yeah. when did you think i denied it. how is that inconsistent with anything we've discussed. >> okay, what i asked you was if your client told you if michael brown was grabbed by the police officer as the police officer sat in the car. is that correct? >> yeah, we said that. i agreed to that, yes. >> and obviously i just read it. but what is your take on this now? your take is now that it's possible that your client was shot, or your client's friend, michael brown was shot in the back? >> we spent three hours with him yesterday. the day before talking about this. i'm going to let mr. williams answer that question. >> all right, quickly. >> there's been a lot

mr. wilson possibly in a threatening answer when the officer shot him dead. but others say that mr. was not moving. and may have even had his hands up when he was killed. these conflicting accounts will be at the heart of this investigation. of why michael brown was shot to death. for more on the investigation, let's bring in former u.s. attorney kendel coffee and john burriss. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> john burriss, different accounts. but the only eyewitnesss said michael brown gave up and had his arms raised. >> in every case you will have conflicting witnesses and testimony. particularly you have to look to see what is their motive and where they are at the time they made the observations. three people say he had his hands up. other people said something totally different. at the end of the day, the question is, how far away was the police officer from mr. brown when he shot and i think also more importantly, what happened before. i think what happened at that car plays a huge role in assessing the overall fact pattern. but at the same time, if mr. brown tu

mr. wilson. robert wilson. send me money. ah, cool. got to hang out recently with saul. >> when you went into television and went into film with "good morning, vietnam" and all of that, was it a sense of coming home? because that is what you were trained to do a juilliard. you were not trained to do stand-up at juilliard. >> no. doing television, i mean, television was more acting. when i finally did movies, that was like, that is what i was trained. >> that came easy too? >> no, not easily. at first when you're doing film, example, i was doing "the world according to garp," and i improvised the first day of shooting. he made a face like this. i went, not good. he went, "no." just say the lines. and commit. i went, ok. and that was the first great lesson. the second great lesson came from peter weir who said, you have great power listening. really? yes, that is the second part of the equation. when you listen to someone it's quite fascinating. and stillness is very partial. second great lesson. third great lesson is always find out whe

mr. wilson decides to use the amount of force that he uses and whether or not he uses the appropriate amount of force or uses an excessive amount of force. i need to go back one step. i agree what van said up to the a point, however, harvard university and university maintain the bias, the largest implicit bias test and what those data have found is that everybody is more likely to have an anti-black pro-white bias and black people in those -- they tested hundreds of thousands of people had less bias than other groups of people. it is not a kind of an equal thing. there is more bias against black bodied people in america and that is just what the science shows on that particular point and that can, as van was saying, creep into your subconscience in that moment i need to pull the trigger and feel fear. you have to determine whether or not part of that calculations of fear is these messages that you've been fed over a lifetime historical messages, pop culture messag messages, media messages about what brown bodied men and women embody and that is what has to be gotten to in this case. >> glor

mr. wilson. that this is an issue that i think we have to deal with in a broader sense. that there is bias in our policing and judicial system and our educational system. we found out last month or this month in our preschool systems. from the moment that black and brown people are introduced to power structures in this country, they experience some level of bias. and i think that a lot of there is an exhaling of that pent-up frustration with that. and i feel, my heart goes out to people who are feeling that there. but also who are feeling it everywhere. who are feeling it in this country. it is an important conversation for to us continue to have. only through having it do we get close to even solving it. >> okay. stand by. mark o'mara, i'll get you in on the other side as we continue to watch this. so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? that's right. it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates. now what if i told youok a hotel you can save up to 60%,

mr. wilson.rt of a favorite of mine to talk about just because i think we can all identify with him. why henot quite sure came. his wife told him to come, but as you got to know him, he is dealing with the issues that we all deal with. he is dealing with a child, with work, with finances. as far as his child was concerned, both he and his wife and sheis dearly, was having a lot of problems. she got into drugs, she got into alcohol, she was cutting herself, she was depressed. so he and his wife were debating lisa capturedd it, my co-author, when she said "they kept revisiting the same issues." i think all of us can identify with that in terms of sometimes you get stuck in these loops because you have to know mr. his otherew it aough features that were about him as well. you could tell he had an anger problem. hardys sometimes work is for me with my boss, he is a micromanager. i got into it with him, i probably should not, but he deserved it. been a couple of sessions later he says i lost my job be

mr. wilson. >> thank you as always for your reporting. talk to you soon. >> thank you very much. >>> last night in ferguson there was less confrontation and a lot more keeping of the peace. taking over the protest response, missouri highway patrol captain ron johnson walked the streets with protesters and heard their voices and no tear gases and no arrests. captain johnson said the change in tone matters and it is here to stay. >> yesterday we saw what it should be. we saw what it could be. saw what it will be. >> joining me now rashad robinson. it is a study in contrast and the actions and responses of police chief jackson in terms of calming a community and actually one what seems to be aggravating a community or at least not helping the situation. how -- you're in ferguson, how have folks responded to the latest from the police chief? >> well, i think people are angry. folks -- there was some level of calm last night. you saw that folks were able to let off steam and able to peacefully protest and get out the frustration they haven't b

mr. wilson. robert wilson, i love, send me money. but he always makes me laugh.he thing, you go to him and gi oh, cool. mostly i got to hang out with recently mort sal who is amazing. the best. >> rose: when you went into television and then went into film with good morning vietnam and all of that, gas a sense of coming home for you? because that was what you were trained to do at july yard. you weren't trained to do stand-up at july yard. >> no, i mean doing television, i mean, well, the television was more like staun. >> rose: acting. >> when i finally did movies that was what i was trained, i mean that is kind of like-- . >> rose: that came easy when you made that transition. >> no, not easily because at first when you're doing film, exam pbl-- example, i was doing the world according to gaferment i impro vitiond, it was the first day of shooting. i improvised the line and he made a face like this, and i went-- he went no. just say the line, say the line, and commit to that i went okay. and that was the first great lesson. the second great lesson came from pet

mr. wilson, who shot michael brown because he wants a fair and thorough investigation. now when it comes to mr. holder's comments, when dealing with racial bias in this country, i absolutely agree with him, not only are we cowards on this issue, we're actually complicit. we only talk about racial issues when it comes to blood being shed and these flare-ups. we need to talk about this issue in a much more thorough and intelligent way, and when we're not in the middle of a war zone in a small town in america. heather: but, tyler, i would then toss it to you. is that not exactly what we're doing right now? i mean president obama back in 2008, and i mentioned this the other day on a different show, when he gave his speech on race, he talked about, you know, talking about race, when something like o.j. simpson happens or something like katrina happens. he said we need to talk about beyond catastrophes like this but yet, here we are doing it, sending the attorney general there, possibly in some opinion, exacerbating the problem. >> sure. look, i don't believe that holder or ob

mr. wilson shot mr. brown and now mr. brown is dead. that kind of very clear language. what do you think is at the core of that? is that about, jelani, trying to just push off responsibility, do you think, or do you think there's generally been an experience of a lack of being held accountable? >> i have to tell you, when i talked with people about the way that policing is handled here, you know, the thing that i've gotten back from people is it's not simply ferguson but it is a problem with the municipalities in st. louis county and they say this is something that cuts across very many of them. now in ferguson specifically it's hard to think other than these are people who do not have a great degree of accountability or are not accustomed to accountability and that goes from everything how they've addressed the media in an antagonistic way to address the way people have interacted with the community. certainly it looks like -- i can't say what's going on inside the inner workings of the department, but it looks like they've circled the wagons around the police officer

mr. wilson, i didn't raise my boy to be a soldier over there.. suddenly we're not going off to france, we're coming home from france. and we're coming home to a different country. we don't know that yet obviously it takes us a while to figure that out. we're coming home changes we have seven million dough boys who have had furloughs in paris. i'll let you sort that out for yourselves they've seen the world in ways that skemtd for a tiny percentage of the population, the elite of the guilded age have not seen a war. my wife says she wish she had been born in the guilded age so she could wear those clothes. i said you better had been born rich or you'll end up on a different page. the sense of people being changed, returning to a nation changed, begins to appear in our songs in 1919 which is really where you get the last of the world war one songs. what's interesting about this song is that the perception of change does not come from the young man himself. it comes from his father who is a farmer. that is, unsophisticated not urban, lives out in t

mr. wilson coming forward himself. not a substitute for a police report. ith detailed knowledge of the investigation what wilson's versions of events is. what is your response. >> we have a lot of resources. they have come forward. >> we put them on air, absolutely. >> they have given their reports public. we want those reports to be given publicly. i'll say this very clearly, due process of the law means that the police officer is given the right to innocent until proven guilty if he's arrested. and that's the big question. if he's ever, ever going to be arrested because we know the scenario first mr. brown would have been arrested day one and we would have just hoped he could have gotten his constitutional rights. we want everybody to get due process. we want it to be a fair system for everybody. for the police officer wilson but also for michael brown's family because he's not here to tell you his side of it. >> no, indeed he's not. we can't lose sight of that. this is at the end of the day forgetting the protests, the politic, the eyewitness accounts an

mr. wilson. i didn't raise my boy to be a soldier and "over there."e from france. and we're coming home to a different country. we don't know that yet obviously it takes us a while to figure that out. we're coming home changes we have seven million dough boys who have had furloughs in paris. i'll let you sort that out for yourselves they've seen the world in ways that skemtd for a tiny percentage of the population, the elite of the gilded age have not seen a war. my wife says she wish she had been born in the gilded age so she could wear those clothes. i said you better had been born rich or you'll end up on a phone graph by jacob reese. it was gilded age people who went to europe. they were in the good deck on the "titanic." everything worked out for them. the sense of people being changed, returning to a nation changed, begins to appear in our songs in 1919 which is really where you get the last of the world war one songs. what's interesting about this song is that the perception of change does not come from the young man himself. it comes from his

"the times" says "officer wilson said mr. brown had lowered his arms and moved toward him," law enforcement officials said. what does that mean? what does "move toward him" mean? a half step, while falling from the bullets that officer wilson has already fired into michael brown? does it mean one or two steps? "the new york times" never tells you. "the new york times" doesn't know. moved toward him is all the clarity that you get from "the new york times" in depth reporting on this. that's all you get on that point. "the new york times" interviewed michael brady. why didn't they quote him on how michael brown moved toward the officer? listen to this description michael brady gave tonight about how michael brown moved toward the officer. >> by the time i get outside, he's already turned around, facing the officer. he's balled up, he has his arms like under his stomach and he was halfway down, like he was going down. and the officer lets out about three or four shots at him. so like i said, just like the body, i took a few pictu

mr. -- officer wilson been arrested? >> you heard her voice. and now here she is.he is shirley davis, joining me now live from ferguson. shirley, welcome. >> thank you very much. thank you for having me. >> you got it. you were the only nonpress person at that news conference. you asked those two questions. do you feel like you got your questions answered? >> i did. i have -- like most african-americans in this community, we have bits and pieces of answers. but having heard the news on yesterday first that mike he was -- michael brown was shot in the arm area, even if it was the side, i felt he would have been able to live. and so when the pathologist today said what he did, that became to me blatant murder. that's to me. it was un -- it was unethical for him to just go up and, you know, shoot him in the head. so, again, a lot of people are outraged, because of the brutality and the audacity of this officer to still be able to just walk around, as if nothing has happened. and the prosecutor has not done anything to arrest him. that's why there is so much unrest. >>

mr. officer wilson been arrested? >> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," demanding justice. autopsy commissioned by michael brown's family reveals the unarmed teen was shot by police at least six times. the medical investigator who assisted in the autopsy will be joining us next. but a week later, still no information on how michael brown died. >>> last night in ferguson, again, intense clashes between police and protesters. many say looters also exploiting this crisis. >> we're going to take back what's ours. destiny is coming soon. >> jay nixon has announced today he will deploy the national guard. and next hour, attorney general eric holder will be updating president obama on the fbi's investigation into the shooting. as the family still asks, why no one will t

mr. officer wilson been arrested? >> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," demanding justice. a private autopsy commissioned by michael brown's family reveals the unarmed teen was shot by police at least six times. the medical investigator who assisted in the autopsy will be joining us next. but a week later, still no information on how michael brown died. >>> last night in ferguson, again, intense clashes between police and protesters. many say looters also exploiting this crisis. >> we're going to take back what's ours. destiny is coming soon. >> jay nixon has announced today he will deploy the national guard. and next hour, attorney general eric holder will be updating president obama on the fbi's investigation into the shooting. as the family still asks, why no one will tell them why and how their son died. >> his mother wanted to ask a question that dr. baden nor any of the lawyers could answer. what else do we need to give them to arrest the killer of my child? >>> good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. we are hearing more today about the private autopsy performed

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. >> with that being said, and all of us here know what happened to michael why has the mr., the officer wilson, not been arrested? [applause] >> who gets arrested is a political district attorney decision and it is not a forensic science decision for good or for bad. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> [inaudible] >> he was not -- prosecutor locally was, charging was that have to do before the federal government? >> the family would rather, they have stated all along, that this whole process be independently of local law enforcement authorities. because they are concerned that killer of their child won't be held accountable and they won't get equal justice. thank you. >> dr. baden, can you talk about -- [inaudible] >> no. yes? that's correct. that position, because the gun can also be moved in many directions, so we can only tell that, the direction going in, but we, that direction to be up or, kneeling or down, and that depends on other factors which the lawyers know more than we know. >> [inaudible] >> yes. >> you want to point out what the last shot is? >> yes. this is the last shot and this is

. >> this video may come to corroborate officer wilson's allegations that mr. brown was the aggressor. >> reporter: missouri's governor declared a state of emergency. >> but if we're going to achieve justice, we must first have and maintain peace. >> reporter: frustrated residents interrupted. >> we need to charge that police with murder. [ bleep ]. >> reporter: police will enforce a curfew in ferguson from midnight to 5:00 a.m. this morning picking up the pieces after yet another night of destruction, many pitching in were disgusted with the looters. >> this ain't what you do to get things right. it's not. >> reporter: and critical of police as well. >> i live across the street. and i stopped and i saw you guys all over and almost just attack me. >> we won't be here today! >> reporter: a community deeply disturbed by unrelenting episodes of violence searching for a way to finally make it stop. police blamed a small band of criminals for the violence saying the protesters have been peaceful. tonight the curfew goes in effect at midnight, the question is how muc

mr. -- the officer -- wilson been arrested? kind of a flashback almost to what happened in sanford with that case in the trayvon martin case, where people don't understand why it's taking so long to get to what they think is the logical result. and it goes to your point, that people don't have confidence that the same police agencies that are out policing them on the street and that this officer comes from are actually going to do the thing that they want most, which is to make an arrest. >> right. but let me be clear here. i spoke about where the police in this instance seem to have been wrong because releasing that tape would seem so prejudicial and selective. having said that, it's something some people don't want to hear. in the same way we talk about justice in a process for any other potential suspect, they may not have gathered enough information yet that would warrant an arrest. you have to meet a legal standard for that. they may not be there. this autopsy, people are looking and they want to draw certain conclusions.

mr. -- the officer wilson been arrested? [ applause ] >> you know, who gets arrested, you know, is a political district attorney decision and it's not a forensic science decision for good or for bad. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> welcome to "@this hour," i'm michaela pereira. we're taking a look at the ongoing press conference. we're in new york. we've just wrapped up a press conference held at the greater saint mark missionary baptist church where we heard from benjamin crump the family attorney along with darrel gates, co-counsel. the forensic pathologist hired by the family, dr. michael baden. he's a preeminent polings -- pathologist and has been key in this case and because the family wanted to have their own independent pathology exam and autopsy. i've got the best in the business right now. let's listen in for one second and we'll talk with some of our guests. >> we can only tell that -- the direct it's going in, but that direction could be up or or kneeling or down and that depends on other factors which the lawyers

wilson shot him down. maybe that's true. we will find out. msnbc put a person in the air who said mr. brown waudz shot in the back. that turns out to be false according to an autopsy. we also hear that officer wilson has an orbital blowout fracture of his eye socket. the factor has not been able to confirm that and we do not want to try this case on television. we are only reporting the alleged injury to demonstrate wi there will be much more to come in this place. that is why there is a januaried grur reand a trial process. but to some he is already guilty. they have convicted him. their slogan is no justice, no peace. those people will never accept anything other than a conviction of murder in this case. they don't really care what happened. they want officer wilson punish punished. he should be punished if he murdered michael brown. if a jury finds wilson guilty he should be put in prison for the rest of his liech. officer wilson is entitled to the presumption of innocence that we all have under our constitution, something al sharpton will never give him because sharpton only cares about his own self agranizemen

wilson shot him dead. maybe that's true. we'll find out. but msnbc put a person on the air who said mr. brown was shot in the back. that turns out to be false, according to an autopsy. we also hear today that officer wilson has an orbital blow out fracture of his eye socket. the factor has not been able to confirm that, and we do not want to try this case on television. we're only reporting the alleged injury to demonstrate that there will be much more to come in this case. that is why there is an investigation, and a grand jury and a trial process. but to the race hustlers officer wilson is already guilty. they have convicted him. there slogan is no justice, no peace. i guess that's lynch mob justice. because if those people will never accept anything other than a conviction of murder in this case. they don't really care what happened. they want officer wilson punished. and he should be punished if he murdered michael brown. if a jury finds wilson guilty. he should be put in prison for the rest of his life. but officer wilson is entitled to the presumption of innocence that we all have under our constitution. some

wilson first injured his neck against the the eagles last season. he was removed from mr. last week after his injury flared up. wilson release aid statement saying quote i don't want anybody to feel sorry for me or pity me. i lived my dream, now i have a chance to dream another dream and live that too. >>> ryan howard and some phillies teammates taking a stand not on the diamond but at franklin institute. they came out for stand up for literacy the the benefit for ryan howard big piece foundation. cole hamels was among howard's teammates at the event. howard foundation works to improve lives of kids promoting academic and athletic development. >> what are you looking at right here? yeah, fire works malfunction exploding on the ground sending sparks flying every where right in the crowd where one land that had could have made this situation, so much worse. >>> then, this bride is walking down the aisle with her dad, there is no groom waiting for her at the end. why she put together this special moment. >>> one south jersey town getting slammed in the series of high end jewel