mr. windsor, is that -- so maybe we can ask mr. ndsor some questions. >> commissioners. >> so john, are you still security -- head of security for your company still? >> yes. >> can you tell me why you know the conditions that there is no identification on the security guards other than radios in this video? i want to hear from -- [inaudible] >> okay. but you're in charge of the security. that's your company. >> yes, i am. >> so do you have to follow the procedures or -- >> simple answer. >> well, i'm asking -- >> that night -- >> okay. >> dovetails with the video of the gentleman who's in the t-shirt -- >> no, step one. >> it's a dovetail, so i have to answer both, if you don't mind. >> okay. okay. go ahead. >> so it goes to the gentleman who put his t-shirt inside out wasn't security. that's one of the managers, and he drives a lot of the front door security for that evening, so i wasn't personally there, which is why i put that as context, because the condition is straightforward, but only bennett and mark who's the person that p