mr. wiseman had yellow highlighted evidence that show they were innocent and hit it from the defendants whilehey were in prison and longer. >> shannon: interesting that there are scores of charges potentially decades in jail, hundreds of thousands of dollars were accused. at the end of the day, there is nothing in these documents that ties them to russian collusion with the trump campaign. >> absolutely not. >> shannon: something that manafort's attorney said that there is no evidence. yet people are running wild with these indictments today, saying, this proves everything, the president will be impeached. >> [laughs] it doesn't prove anything at all. the first place, an indictment is just a determination by the grand jury grand jury that essey rubber stamps mr. mueller's proposed charges, hearing only what mr. mueller and his team want them to hear. there is no presentation by the defense whatsoever. all you need to do is look at mr. wiseman's other indictments to see how fatally flawed they were and how willing he is to stretch criminal statutes to charge conduct that isn't criminal. i mean

mr. wiseman was deputy director and then director of the enron task force, which was notorious for abusive 85,000 jobs with an indictment that didn't each state an offense really. he had cobbled together parts of different statutes to make a crime out of something that wasn't. anderson was destroyed and three years later the supreme court unanimously reversed it with justice renquist writing for the court that it was shocking how little criminal culpability the jury instructions required and anderson had no way to know that his conduct was illegal. ainsley: he has also given money to past presidents, the dnc. he gave money to president obama's campaign and the dnc. no record of him giving money to the republican party. correct? >> not that i know of. and he also prosecuted four merrill lynch executives and sent them to prison for a year on another faulty indictment while he had yellow highlighted, he and his team, had yellow highlighted but hidden evidence that showed they were innocent. so the defendants in the manafort and gates indictment or any other indictments that come forward need