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withers. he's now a professor at hampton university's scripps howard school of journalism. mr. caldwell, welcome. give us first a sense of ernest withers, and how important his work was to this country's understanding of the civil rights movement. >> his work was hugely important because he brought back the pictures. , you know, you can have a thousand words, but it's the pictures, and he had access. he was on the inside. so he was able to show america things that you couldn't tell america. but he had those-- he had so many. and he cataloged everything. so i think his work was hugely important. >> warner: now, you said yesterday that you were stunned when you heard the news of what the commercial appeal was reporting. why was that? was it hard to reconcile that with the man you knew? >> well, because he was a journalist, and the black journalists had made this commitment to the black community that we weren't going to be spies. we weren't going to be eavesdropping for law enforcement, that we were going to be true to what we said. and i was taken aback because he had-- his recor