mr. wolfowitz came to our area and he looked at the training and it was was on robo-call james bond islandit was the resort island in the middle of the tigris which is part of our area. it was remote and it was one access point to is perfect for doing training. he came out there and he looked at the training and was impressed with our work and was impressed with the standards and then we got to the big discussion that late summer was troop strength in sending troops eric shinseki early on said we needed hundreds of thousands of troops going in and everybody scoffed at him but he was right. later was the big argument how many do we send? secretary rumsfeld wanted to do it on the lean side. we didn't agree with that. i certainly didn't in afghanistan and i certainly didn't agree with that in iraq. why? because early on you have to establish not only a military dominance but a moral dominance. the most humane thing you can do in wars to get it done. you can't do that with tying your hands behind your back playing nice overtime thinking that that's somehow going to be a solution. so we needed

mrs. chet edwards, united states of house of representatives, retired. the honorable patrick j. murphy, united states of house of representatives, retired. the honorable robert o. werk, deputy secretary of defense. the honorable paul wolfowitztine fox, former acting united states deputy secretary of defense. the honorable and mrs. louie kuldera, former secretary of the army. honorable francis j. harvey, former secretary of the army. admiral and mrs. jonathan green, chief of naval operations. lt. general yorgbulmer. chief of staff, german army. general carl are guano, former states army chief of staff retired. general gordon sullivan, former united states army chief of staff, retired. general and mrs. frank j. grass, chief national guard bureau. honorable eric fan, acting undersecretary of army. miss lisa debrow, acting undersecretary of the air force. honorable and mrs. joe reeder, former undersecretary of the army. honorable les brownlee and miss susan, former undersecretary of the army. mr. raymond dubois, former acting undersecretary of the army. the honorable and mrs. scott kosper, mayor, city of killeen, texas. john m paxson, jr., united states marine corps, commandant of the marine corps. general and mrs. daniel allen

mrs. chet edwards, united states house of representatives, retired. the honorable patrick j. murphy, united states house of representatives, retired. the honorable robert work, deputy secretary of defense. the honorable paul wolfowitzr acting united states deputy secretary of defense. the honorable and mrs. -- former secretary of the army. the honorable francis j. harvey, former secretary of the army. admiral and mrs. jonathan greenert, chief of naval operations. lieutenant general -- captain, lieutenant colonel, chief of staff, german army. >> general, former united states army chief of staff, retired. general gordon sullivan, former united states army chief of staff, retired. general and mrs. frank grass, chief national guard bureau. the honorable eric k. fannie, acting undersecretary of the army. ms. lisa disbrow, acting under secretary of the air force. the honorable and mrs. joe wieder, former under secretary of the army. the honorable les brownlee and ms. susan, former undersecretary of the army. mr. raymond dubois, former acting undersecretary of the army. the honorable and mrs. scott casper, mayor, city of colleen texas. general and mrs. john paxton junior, united states marine corps, assistant commandant o

mr. wolfowitz came to our area and he looked at the training and it was was on robo-call james bond island. it was the resort island in the middle of the tigris which is part of our area. it was remote and it was one access point to is perfect for doing training. he came out there and he looked at the training and was impressed with our work and was impressed with the standards and then we got to the big discussion that late summer was troop strength in sending troops eric shinseki early on said we needed hundreds of thousands of troops going in and everybody scoffed at him but he was right. later was the big argument how many do we send? secretary rumsfeld wanted to do it on the lean side. we didn't agree with that. i certainly didn't in afghanistan and i certainly didn't agree with that in iraq. why? because early on you have to establish not only a military dominance but a moral dominance. the most humane thing you can do in wars to get it done. you can't do that with tying your hands behind your back playing nice overtime thinking that that's somehow going to be a solution. so we neede