mr. woolsey, do you agree? where's the president on this? >> what the president did was precisely as decisive and effective as what he did with respect to trying to get the syrians not to use chemical weapons on their own population. he drew a red line and he ignored it. >> what about this current president? this current president. now that we know -- we know what's happening. why doesn't he do something. >> well, first of all, hopefully he's having his cia people and others work very hard oncoming up with some things to do, and cyber and otherwise. and also hopefully, if he utilizes them, we will not know. it will not be public. it will just be that things aren't working right in russia. we'll see. this white house seems to sometimes handle things secretly and sometimes ignore secrecy requirements. i can't tell what it's going to do. >> director woolsey, thank you. admiral kirby, thank you as well. stand by because we're also now learning the president is admitting that this whole tapes charade was actually to influence james comey and his