thanks. >> well, thank you, mr. wu, mr. prestowitz. i'd like to give you an opportunity to respond to some of dr. scissors' testimony because it strikes me that some of the language that he was using, china's reliance on coal and its lack of energy efficiency improvement or compared to the united states, that they are a function of its growing economy and i think that without that context, that testimony was kind of -- that it just needed that context because otherwise it's kind of meaningless and i just want to have you put it in the context of while china was expanding its economy and double digit and in 2007 and 2008 and less energy so can you comment on that? >> i think you're right. in fact i think. the chinese, it seems to me, are actually to be admired in a way in this. i'm just trying to maintain the high growth, the 8, 9, 10% growth rate and that, for them, has been very energy intensive and the worst kind of energy is it kind of coal and they've got the worst kind of oil and if you travel to china you're traveling in a total

mr. wu? i'll just go down the line here. >> thank you for your question. i think that's a very good point. there's one metric. and if we may offer one suggestion, it's grid parity that matters. being able to deploy clean energy at a cost that is a cost effective way that is competitive with fossil fuels. so i think it's not about how many turbines you put up every year, if they don't work. it's about -- it's about whether or not you can do that in a cost effective way and you can produce energy from it. that's cost effective for consumers and for the economy. >> others? mr. prestowitz? >> well, i sense cross talk here when we say we're doing better than the chinese. i mean, if we're talking in terms of reducing emissions, the u.s. and we have a a great boom from shale gas and thank god we've had it and rising conservation measures. again, very positive. it's a little different than the thank you emissions of the shale gas, you may want to have the potential to reduce emissions by solar or wind power or battery-driven technologies. and if you do want that,

mr. justin wu. who is head of wind energy research and new energy finance of hong kong. we appreciate you being here very much. mr. alan wolff who is senior counsel. we appreciate you being here very much mr. clyde presowitz, president of the economic strategy institute, we appreciate you being here. mr. dan holiday, director of advanced technologies and pv programs, thank you. dr. derek scissors, the senior research fellow at the heritage foundation, thank you for being here our approach is to have each witness take five or six minutes and summarize the main points that you think we should understand from your testimony and we will include your full testimony and if you can try to give us the main points, that way we will have some time for questions. why don't we just introduce people. mr. wu, why don't you start. >> thank you very much. good morning. it's an honor and privilege. i join you in my role as an analyst, a division of bloomberg focused on a clean energy sector. our group provides actionable data on investment, technology, and clean energy. in addition, they

we don't we go in order that introduced people, mr. wu, why don't you start. >> good morning, thank you for hosting the year today. it is an honor and privilege to be offering my thoughts on these topics. -- thank you for hosting me here today. our group provides accurate data and insight on investment, technology, promising trends -- policy trends. these represent my views alone and did not represent a bloomberg or bloomberg and energy finance. this should not be construed as investment advice. the subject is china, clean energy, and the trade relationship between the u.s. and china. i grew up in maryland and analyzed the growth of the clean energy industry. i offer my thoughts on its current status in china and what we can expect in the future. the chinese industry has grown rapidly. the country now manufactures half of the solar modules. 8 of the top in solar manufacturers in the world are chinese. the country overtook the u.s. as the world's largest wind market in 2010 and has traded more than 10,000 wind turbines in 2011. that is 10

mr. herley is sharon wu, the chief assistant of operations in the district attorney's office. she oversees the criminal division, including the victim witness program and the alternative dispute courts. anne irwin is an attorney in the public defender's office. ms. irwin was recently involved in several of the cases involving the videotaped evidence which resulted in the dismissal of over 90 cases. you've read about those in the newspaper. and finally, we have civil rights attorney john burress. he specializes in civil actions brought against police officers for abuse of power, brutality, and wrongful death. let me remind the audience that we will have a brief q&a at the end. if you want to ask a question, just raise your hand. you'll get a card from the usher. and you can ask your question. and if you would like to address it to a particular panel member, you can do that as. i believe we are going to have a video now. it is movie time. >> this was recorded on a cellular phone by a witness who did not want to be identified. he was pulled on to the ground, face down. there was

wu: aye. commissioner fong: aye. >> thank you, commissioners. those items are continued as proposed. mr. president, would you like to take item 3? commissioner fong: yes, first item of the regular calendar, please. >> commissioners, we can -- going forward on your calendar, we are now on commissioner questions and matters. commissioner antonino: thank you. i have a couple of items. first of all, i want to report that the subcommittee between planning and historic preservation met yesterday for selection of regrettably a new commission secretary in the future, and we did have a meeting, and we have agreed upon a schedule of future meetings to set parameters for that process. on other items, congratulations, of course, to the giants. a perfect game yesterday, which most of you have already heard is the first perfect game in the 130-year history of the giants, both in new york and san francisco. also kudos to lincoln high school. he may have read that it is the only high school in america or anywhere in the world that boasts two separate u.s. open golf champion, and there is also another in

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before wu bring them before us we need to see the documents produced perhaps as and mr. mr. cummings says it very well. perhaps these people were liyig to their losses. but we are not going to bring them in unless we have the ki d kinds of questions we need to ask. i want every one of those people here. i expected to have a panel. part of what you do is you get testimony. >> chris: you so far refused to have kenneth nelson. >> we have not refused. >> chris: has he testified before the committee? >> he testified for two days. >> chris: in a public hearing? >> no, in a private gathering with republicans and democrats under oath. our lawyers were asking those questions. from that we asked for documents. our in te intention is to havem back on a panel along with dennis burke and others. >> chris: i hate to interrupt but you we have limited time. congressman cummings does that satisfy you? >> no, i have asked the chairman to bring the atf director nelson before us. he has refused to. we asked for witnesses to come before the public hearing. he has refused to do that. all i'm sayi