it hasn't hit the ground yet. >> ifill: mr. yusuf, is pakistan's government, as perceived, a weak civilian government in terms of running itself, let alone disaster. >> i think the perception is true, to a large except, but i think perceptions are greater than reality in this case. i think there is a lot being done. the problem is, i've just come back, the damage is colossal, and i would argue even a developed country would have really found it hard to cope with this kind of challenge. so, i mean, given the inefficiencies and given the weakness in the system, you would expect this. now, on the front line it's really the pakistani army that is going out, that is better equipped to deal with these kinds of situation. they've traditionally been very active in relief. i saw more of them than civilian government and civilian authorities out there. >> ifill: prior to this, the pakistani army, mr. nawaz, was very much involved in the counter-insurgency that was supposed to be under way, especially in the swat valley, and that the united sta