i'm so glad to get a chance to talk to mr. zirin, because this is a subject that has interested me for the last few years. i have a question at the end i will ask after i make my statement. the forefathers came here and they came from england. and these guys of course came in with bibles and the koran. the system was i don't even want to talk about hillary clinton and donald trump because if our country lasts it's going to change and change and change. but when they came here, they set up this constitution. they put the bill of rights in front of it. people get the bill of rights mixed up with the constitution. host: charles, what is your question? caller: my question is, if you look at the amendments to the constitution, and you think about they left religious oppression, when they brought the koran and the bible, was their intention to set up a religious society based on shaharya law? thank you. guest: i don't think they considered whether society would be based on shaharya law. i think society was to be based on the constitution

mr. zirin, how are you? guest: how are you, bill? caller: doing very well but listening to c-span, listening to the program, i'm a little more upset than i usually am. we're lly impressed by dealing with your view which is clearly extremely partisan about the persons of the supreme court. and i'm calling to object seriously to the characterization of division between -- the divisions within the court as quotes liberal and quotes conservative, unquote. you just touched on that a bit. the question has always been at the stages, at what points supreme court should speak. and where it should exercise restraint and allow the political system to continue. he quotes, liberal approach, has been to expand the equal protection clause. the commerce clause. and several others to the point where there is nothing the supreme court can't deal with. and i find that is the basis of the argument. on the court. what has become scandalously politicized is the choice, selection of supreme court justices. host: let's give our guest a chance to respond. gu