mr. zuckerberg? >> congressman, i think it's well documented that the chinese government steals technology from american companies. >> thank you. mr. bezos? you're on mute. >> mr. bezos, i believe you're on mute. >> i'm sorry. i was saying i have heard many reports of that. i haven't seen it personally, but i've heard many reports of it. >> so, of all the different products amazon carries you haven't seen it in the products on amazon or your company or yourself? >> certainly there are knock off products if that's what you mean. there are counterfeit products and all of that. but the chinese -- the answer is the chinese government stealing technology, that's the thing i read reports of but don't have personal experience with. >> it's no secret that europe increasingly seems to have agenda of attacking large successful tech companies yet europe's approach to regulation in general and antitrust in particular seems to have been much less successful than america's approach. as you all know from direct expe

mr. zuckerberg? >> i agree. we wouldn't tolerate this. if e with found anything like this, we would also terminate any relationship. >> mr. bezos? >> yes, i agree completely. >> thank you very much, gentlemen, and i yield back. >> i recognize the gentleman from maryland. >> thank you. i want to thank mr. buck for that line of questioning and for the upcoming legislation. i look forward to joining that. in the 19th industry, we had the robin bearings and now we have the cyber bearings. we want to make sure that the extraordinary power and wealth that you've been able to amass is not united states against human rights around the world and not against the interest of a free market at home. mr. bezos, let me turn to you. i'm interested in the role that you play as a gatekeeper. a lot of people want to know when the hbo max app will be available on your devices and i understand that negotiations are ongoing. but your company is not only asking for financial terms, but also for content from warner media. is

mr. zuckerberg? >> i agree. we wouldn't tolerate this. if e with found anything like this, we would also terminate any relationship. >> mr. bezos? >> yes, i agree completely. >> thank you very much, gentlemen, and i yield back. >> i recognize the gentleman from maryland. >> thank you. i want to thank mr. buck for that line of questioning and for the upcoming legislation. i look forward to joining that. in the 19th industry, we had the robin bearings and now we have the cyber bearings. we want to make sure that the extraordinary power and wealth that you've been able to amass is not united states against human rights around the world and not against the interest of a free market at home. mr. bezos, let me turn to you. i'm interested in the role that you play as a gatekeeper. a lot of people want to know when the hbo max app will be available on your devices and i understand that negotiations are ongoing. but your company is not only asking for financial terms, but also for content from warner media. is

mr zuckerberg, mr gerrard and's a litany of censorship zeros in on facebook.xactly what are your standards and filtering out political speech? some people out there may not agree with. thank you for the opportunity to address this. our goal is to offer offer a platform for all ideas. we want to give everyone in the world a voice to share their experiences and ideas, a lot of those are things that happen day in their lives. i think we have distinguished ourselves as one of the companies that defends free expression the most, we do have community standards around things that you can and cannot say, i think you would likely agree with most of them, banning categories of harm such as promoting terrorist propaganda, child exploitation, incitement of violence, some more legalistic things like intellectual property violations. and they also ban things like hate speech that could lead to dehumanising people... like hate speech that could lead to dehumanising people. . m like hate speech that could lead to dehumanising people... ifi like hate speech that could lead to

mr. zuckerberg? >> i agree. we wouldn't tolerate this. if we found anything like this we would also terminate any relationship. >> and mr. bezos? >> yes. i agree completely. >> thank you very much, gentlemen. i yield back. >> thank the gentleman. i now recognize the gentleman from maryland, mr. raskin for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i want to thank mr. buck for the excellent line of questioning and upcoming legislation. i look forward to joining that. we want, you know, in the 19th century we had robber-barons. in the 20th century we have the cyber barons and we want to make sure that the extraordinary power and wealth that you've been able to amass is not used against the interests of democracy and human rights around the world and, not against the interests of a free market at home. so, mr. bezos, let me turn to you, i'm interested in the role that you play as a gatekeeper a lost consumers want to know when hbo max app will be available on your fire device. i understand negotiations are ongoing but that, your company is not

mr. zuckerberg, mr. jordan's litany of censorship zeros in on facebook. exactly what are your standards in filtering out political speech that maybe some people out there don't agree with? >> congressman, thank you for the opportunity to address this. our goal is to offer a platform for all ideas. we want to give everyone in the world a voice to share their experiences and ideas. a lot of that is day-to-day things that happen in their lives. some of that is political. and frankly i think that we've distinguished ourselves as one of the companies that defends free expression the most. we do have community standards around things that you can and cannot say. i think you would likely agree with most of them. they ban categories of harm such as promoting terrorist propaganda, child exploitation, incitement of violence, some more legalistic things like intellectual property violations and they also ban things like hate speech that could lead to dehumanizing people and promoting violence down the road. >> if i may ask a specific of you, it was reported that don

mr. zuckerberg, mr. jordan's litany of censorship zeros in on facebook. exactly what are your standards in both filtering out political speech, that maybe some people out there don't agree with? >> congressman, thank you for the opportunity to address this. our goal is to offer a platform for all ideas. we want to give everyone in the world a voice to share their experiences and ideas. a lot of that is day-to-day things that happen in their lives. some of it is political. frankly, i think we've distinguished ourselves as one of the companies that defends free expression the most. we have community standards around things that you can and cannot say. i think you would likely agree with most of them. they ban categories of harm, such as promoting terrorist propaganda, travelled exploitation, inassignmecitemen violence, intellectual property, and they ban things like hate speech, that could lead to dehumanizing people -- >> if i may ask a specific of you. it was reported that donald trump jr. got taken down for a period of time because he put something up, t

mr. zuckerberg, you are making my point. in closing, mr. chairman, i want to end where i began. facebook, by mr. zuckerberg's own admission, and from the documents that we have, they saw instagram as a threat to potentially take business away from facebook. this is exactly the type of anticompetitive acquisition that the antitrust laws were designed to prevent. this should never have happened in the first place. it should never have happened, and it cannot happen again. i yelled back. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i would remind the witness that it of course does not alleviate the antitrust challenges that that chairman described. i will recognize the gentleman from colorado, and again, thank him for cohosting one of the most important field hearings that we have had in colorado. i think it is a critical investigation. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and i want to offer my appreciation to you for the bipartisan way that you have approached the investigation. i want to start by saying that capitalism is the greatest instrument for freedom this world has ever seen. it has given the unit

mr. zuckerberg. i think pat this point it is fairly obvious that technology platforms have been stifling conservative news and opinions. you employ a panel in of content moderators. can you explain how facebook chooses who these moderators are? >> thanks, congressman. we do hire a lot of people around the world to work on safety and security. our team is more than 30 or 35,000 people working on that now. we certainly try to do this in a way that is neutral to all viewpoints. we want to be a platform for all ideas. i don't think you build a social product with the goal of giving people a voice if you don't believe that people being able to express a wide variety of things is ultimately valuable for the world and we try to make sure that our policies and our operations ultimately reflect and carry that out. >> is there idealogical diversity amongst the content moderators? >> congressman, i don't think we choose to hire them on the basis of an ideology. they're hired all over the world. there are certai

mr. zuckerberg? >> i agree we wouldn't tolerate this. if we found anything like this, we would also terminate any relationship. >> and mr. bezos. >> i agree completely. >> thank you very much, gentlemen, i yield back. >> i recognize the gentleman from maryland mr. raskin. >> thank you, mr. chairman i want to thank mr. buck for the excellent line of questioning and upcoming legislation i look forward to joining that we want -- in the 19th century we had robber behrens in 20th century we have cyber barons, we want to make sure the extraordinary power and wemt you've been able to amassed is not used against the interest of democracy and human rights around the world and not against the interest of a free market at home mr. bezos, let me turn to you. i'm interested in the role that you play as a gatekeeper a lot of consumers want to know when the hbo app will be available on your fire device. i understand negotiations are ongoing but your company is not only asking for financial term but also for content from warner media. is that right? is t

mr. zuckerberg is now recognized for five minutes. mr. zuckerberg: thank you. before i begin, i want to add my voice to those honoring congressman john lewis and his service to our country. america has lost a hero who never stopped fighting for the rights of every person. chairman cicilline, sensenbrenner, members of the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify. the tech industry is an american success story. the products we build have changed the world. our industry is one of the ways that america shares its values with the world and one of our greatest economic and cultural exports. facebook is part of this story. we started with an idea to give people the power to share and connect. we built services that billions of people find useful. i am proud that we have given people who never had a voice before the opportunity to be heard. and have given small businesses access to tools only the largest players used to have. i am proud emerged, that people have used our services to stay in touch with friends and family who they cannot be with in person a

mr zuckerberg, as you know the proliferation of fake facebook accou nts proliferation of fake facebookunts was a key tool in the strategy of russian interference in the american election in 2016, american law enforcement, the senate and house have all found that vladimir putin engaged in a sweeping and systematic campaign to undermine american democracy in 2016, and to work for a victory for donald trump. in his remarkable book, mind blanka, and i'm being polite here, cambridge analytica and the plot to break america, whistle—blower christopher wiley who worked for several years at cambridge analytica recounts how the russian assault on america in cambridge analytica's research depended on facebook. "when cambridge analytica launched in the summer cambridge analytica launched in the summer of 2014, steve bannon's goal was to change politics by changing culture. facebook data, algorithms and narratives were its key weapons. they identified these tools to identify people what they called the dark triad, narcissism, machiavellian as an psychopathy, they then bounded and activated his peop

mr. zuckerberg, i think you froze. >> no. face is. >> what do you have to say about the facebook advertiser boycott? you lost a lot of huge sponsors like starbucks >> forget starbucks. i want to welcome a more prestigious caffeinated beverage company to the facebook family. gush force x 100 energy discharge. gush force has 500% more caffeine than the fda recommends it's been banned in nine countries. facebook will be running gush force ads until it's banned in this country, and if they want to keep paying us still after that facebook is a public good. it's the only place where you can interact conspiracy theorists who think the moon is a big lizard egg as well bots. show should be more concerned about tiktok they're owned by china tiktok collects personal info that has been used to spread fake news and is a national security threat. if anyone is going to do that stuff, should it be an american company, like facebook i'm going take all your concerns to heart. now who should i write the check out to >> mr. zuckerberg, can you p

mr zuckerberg is now recognised for five minutes. thank you. before i begini five minutes. thank you. before i begin i want to add my voice to those honouring congressmanjohn lewis and his service to our country. america has lost a real hero who never stop fighting for the rights of every person. chairman, members of the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify. the tech industry is an american success story. the products we don't have change the world and improve peoples lives. our industry is one of the ways that america shares its values with the world ahead of our greatest economic and cultural exports. facebook is part of the story. it started with an idea, to give people the power to share and connect. we have built services that billions of people find useful. i am proud that we have given people who have never had a voice before the opportunity to be heard and given small businesses access to tools that only the largest players used to have. since covid emerged, i'm proud that people use our services to stay in touch with friends and family, they canno

mr. zuckerberg left school full-time to focus on facebook now we'll begin by swearing you in before i do that, i want to also remind you that you are the only ones from your respective companies invited to testify today, and that in accordance with normal house practice and section g of the house remote proceedings regulations, your sworn testimony must be your own. please let me know if at any point in the hearing, you wish to mute yourself so you can confer with your counsel will you please unmute your microphones and raise your right hands. do you swear or affirm under penalty of perjury that the testimony you're about to give is true and correct to the best of your knowledge, information and belief, so help you god? >> yes >> yes >> let the record show the witnesses answered in the affirmative. thank you, and you may remain seated please note that your written statements will be entered into the record in their entirety accordingly i ask that you summarize your testimony in five minutes. to help you stay within that time, there is a timing light in webex. when the light turns from gr

mr bezos. next mark zuckerberg.oly power in the world of social networking. i think with hindsight it looks obvious that instagram would have reached a scala has today but at the time it was far from obvious. this was the response. facebook so instagram at the time as a top contender... they purchase it. this is exact to the type of antitrust legislation that was created to prevent. tim cook next, he's the ceo of apple. it's been accused of unfairly using its clout over its app store to block rivals and charge high commissions. here's what he's said. we have fierce competition at the developers side and the customer side which is essentially, it's so competitive, i would describe it as a street fight for market share in the smartphone business. this is all about power and influence — and of course — it's political. let's hear from republican jim jordan. i'lljust cut to the chase — bg tech is out to get conservatives. that's not a suspicion, that's not a hunch — that's a fact. july 20th, 2020, google removes the home

mr. zuckerberg because it psenated the situation.e had to defend himself about his acquisition ofnstagram. he was asked, did you buy it rather than compete with that? that is how you neutralize that? oshe used words, apparently. he did not deny that but he said it was a badcquisition that made instagram into the company it is. th regulatory powers at that time said it was not illegal. you saw the two kinds of approaches between the congresspeople and the tech tightens. -- titans. you saw one other thing, more questions about the misinformation and hat speech and how he deals with that. i think many congresspeople are worried about that but this is a hearing about competition and for them to move on it, they need to get the detail h abo these companies are harming consumers and rivals. if they don't focus on that, they might nth get the punch need. ros: can congress do anything arout the concerns which w hearing from the demrats or is this just about us hearing these utch leaders under pressure on these issues? reporter: yes, congress

mr. zuckerberg's own admission and the documents, saw instagram as a threat that could potentially siphon business away from facebook. this is exactly the type of anti-competitive acquisition that the antitrust laws were designed to prevent. this should never have happened in the first place. it cannot happen again. guest has some strong opinions on this. joining us now, roger, early facebook investor and author. roger, i know you have some thoughts on this. facebook has made the case that instagram was much smaller when they bought it. what was your take on that exchange? clearly the house obtained documents that showed zuckerberg was scared of instagram taking users from facebook. roger: i think the thing that is most fascinating about that exchange is exactly what you said. subcommittee has a lot of documentation. i think 1.3 million documents. lots of internal communications. slackedcompany that has , keep this clearly in mind. each of these companies has their own software. it leads to a very informal style of communications. inevitably there will be things that look terrible. both f

mr. zuckerberg. how many competitors did facebook conduct copying?n, can't give you a number of companies. anchor: we know that facebook went o to acquire instagram for abou$1 billion in cash and stock. but this allegation thatzu erberg was threatening to overrun the company, bire ac, or we will run you over with our own product, is that what happened here? >> is fair to assume that what happened. i am not privy to mark ckerberg' specific thoughts, nor was i either t of two founders of instagram, but i think it is fair to assume that the company didut pressure on instagram, andried t really get at understanding what it's business model was, how it was trying to engage people, a certainly tried to copy some of its features, which to be fair to mark zuckerberg, essentially acknowledged. ti think i is a problem and the reason we see it happening over and over aga, you know, there were similar themes around westerns asked of amazon apple and google as well -- similar themes around questions asked of amazon and apple and l, these aw companies that have do

mr. zuckerberg operate.o ask him what he thinks the motivation is now >> a power lunch on "power lines" >> absolutely. >> i think this is totally different than mobile strategy they're under attack from all sides. this isn't just about advertising, this is about their role in society. >> julia, it's always about money, it's always about the bottom line. they're being hit by advertisers. that's the bottom line issue of course ilts the same thing. it's just a different, you know, different names, different stories, but it's still about the money. >> speaking of different names and bottom lines, let's talk about harvard and mit suing the trump administration over a new immigration rule that bars international students from living here while taking online-only courses. robert, tell us about this brewing battle and the enormous financial stakes for colleges that have really come to rely on foreign students >> yeah, john, this is also about morality and money the morality side of it is harvard and mit both suing t

facebook — by mr zuckerberg's own admission and by the documents we have from the time — facebook sawsiphon business away from facebook. and so rather than compete with that, facebook bought it. this is exactly the type of anti—competitive acquisition that the antitrust laws were designed to prevent. tim cook next — he's the ceo of apple. it's been accused of unfairly using its clout over its app store to block rivals and charge high commissions. here's what he's said. we have fierce competition at the developers side and the customer side which is essentially, it's so competitive, i would describe it as a street fight for market share in the smartphone business. this is all about power and influence — and of course — it's political. let's hear from republican jim jordan. i'lljust cut to the chase — bg tech is out to get conservatives. that's not a suspicion, that's not a hunch — that's a fact. july 20th, 2020, google removes the home pages of breitbart and the daily caller. just last night, we learned that google has censored breitbart so much, traffic has declined 99%. barbara plett

mr. zuckerberg is now recognized for five minutes. >> thank you.dd my voice to those honoring congressman john lewis and his service to our country. america lost a real hero who never stopped fighting for the rights of every person. ranking member and members of the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify. the tech industry is an american success story. the products we build have changed the world and improve people's lives. our industry is one of the ways america shares values with the world and one of our greatest economic and cultural exports. facebook is part of the story, we started with an idea to give people the power to share and connect. we built services and billions of people find useful. i'm proud we've given people who never had a voice before the opportunity to be heard. even small businesses access to tools, only the largest players used to have. since covid emerged, and proud people have used our services to stay in touch with friends and families who can't be with them in person and keep their small businesses runnin

mr. zuckerberg has done, says he will do. it typically does come down to making sure the bottom line of the company is protected facebook, you know, we talked a lot, mike, about the advertisers who are at least pausing at this point, so many big names, but really it hasn't done much to slow the momentum of the stock many investors there simply come back to a multiple that they say is 20 times gap earnings. >> yeah. >> no, exactly now, what's interesting, too, you can frame it a couple different ways, with unis that the stock appears bulletproof to these concerns and obviously investors are not registering any real worry that it's going to cause the advertiser flight for any long period of time. if you look at it compared to what you might consider its peers google has outperformed and everything else in faang and faang adjacent stock has outperformed google. it seems the market is differentiating between ad supported and not ad supported digital platforms. >> yeah. right. apple -- google is up or alphabet is up 12% this year,

mr. zuckerberg had with civil rights groups didn't go so well, right?usan: disappointing, according to the civil rights groups in attendance, the naacp, the anti-defamation league, the color of change, the free press, all four groups in attendance meeting with zuckerberg, sheryl sandberg, the c.o.o. and other executives. here's a statement from the group afterwards saying that facebook approached our meeting today like it was nothing more than a p.r. exercise, according to them, but boycott coalition leaders and advertisers understand the #stop hate for profit effort is about lives, safety and freedom of our communities and they say there was nothing actionable that came out of it. more than 1,000 companies have paused advertising on facebook sparked by this #stop hate for profit movement and they say facebook is a platform that proliferates hate speech, violence and misinformation. this morning we have facebook releasing its findings from their two-year internal civil rights audit, sheryl sandberg posting in on facebook, saying there's still a long way

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