in history that mrna developed any as a product. so when they told me that, i was surprised and then i challenged, say, look, but their conviction was very high and convincing. so for us if it was if we were deciding to go mrna, biontech wag the obvious partner and biontech-- at the same time i was asking our team what technology you think we should be using. so, we knew biontech because we were working with together with them on mrna on a flu vaccine and we knew they were a fantastic partner and that the technology is ready to deliver a vaccine because of what we had seen using our work with flu. so, we made the move. >> so by going with mrna and correct me if i'm wrong you went with the long shot, the moonshot here in terms of-- ments by far, it was the one that could give theoretically, the best product and by far the one most risk. >> there's so much of this that's politically driven and regardless of what side the aisle that you're in, or on, were you surprised that still to this day that politics are driving much of what's hap

for us, it was if we were deciding the mrna, bio-tech was the obvious partner and bio-tech asked also for partners and i was asking what technology you think we should be using. we knew bio-tech and we were m watching together with mrna vaccine and we knew they were a fantastic partner, and we knew that the technology was ready to deliver a vaccine because of what we had seen during our work with the flu. we made the move. >> by going with mrna, you went shot, the moon shot here in terms of -- albert: by far, it was the one that we could give with the best possible product but the one that was by far the most risky. >> there's so much of this politically driven regardless of what side the aisle that you're in or on, were you surprised that still to this day that politics are driving much of what's happening with the pandemic? albert: yes, with the pandemic and uncertainties, that will be. but i was thinking of because of the magnitude of the threat of this pandemic was representing for the world that social wars stand to ere arrowhead and we'll dot right thing and we'll take things ou

in conclusion, we know that the mrna covid-19 vaccines are safe. we know that receiving the recommended vaccine dose is critical to maintaining optimal protection against severe covid-19, particularly for the elderly, and we expect that the updated vaccines will offer better protection against the sars-cov-2 subvariants that are currently circulating. and so my message to you is simple. get your updated covid-19 shot as soon as you are eligible. in order to protect yourself, your family, and your community against covid-19 this fall and winter. i certainly will do so. back to you. >> great, thank you dr. fauci. for the last two years, this virus has continued evolving while our vaccines have stayed the same. now, we have a vaccine that matches the dominant strain out there. by the way, let me be very clear -- achieving this was no small feat. it is reasonable to expect based on what we know that immunology and the path of this virus that these new vaccines will provide better protection against infection, better protection against transmission, and

time in history, but mrna delivered anything as a product. so when they told me that i was surprised and then i challenged a lot. but they're conviction was very high and they convinced him. so for us it was if we were deciding to go mrna biotech was the obvious partner and actually biotech had already reached out to us to ask also for a part and supply that at the same time. i was asking our team what technology you think we should be using so we knew biotech because you were working together with them on mrna on a flu vaccine. and we knew that there are fantastic partner and we knew that the technology is ready to deliver a vaccine because of what we had seen during our work with flu. so we made the move so by going with mrna and correct me if i'm wrong. you really went with the long shot the moonshot here in in terms of it by farther. it was the one that could give theoretically the best possible product. but the one that was by far the most risky. there's so much of this that's politically driven and regardless of what side the aisle that

they said we should do it with mrna. it was the counter option because we were working only two years from that since 2018 and there was no time in history for to develop anything so when they told me that i was surprised and found look but the conviction was very high. so for us it was if we were deciding mrna. at the same time i was asking what technology you think we should be using so because you were working together we knew they were a fantastic partner and the technologies surrounded to deliver the vaccine. >> correct me if i'm wrong you wentsh with the longshot, the moonshot in terms of -- >> by far it was the one that could give the best possible product but the one that was by far the most risky. >> there's so much of this that is politically driven and regardless of what side of the aisle you are in or on, were yos surprised still to this day the politics are driving what is happening in the pandemic? >> yes, i was surprised. i knew that healthcare issues are always at the forefront of the political debate and

the mrna does not stay in the muscular area, it does not stand the the place where it's injected.are studies that evaluate where the particles are carried throughout the body and in excretions as well. but they were limited and skipped. many of the findings were concerning sin there were no follow-up. other doctors were concerned about interactions with other childhood vaccines. and when you give a vaccine to a woman who is pregnant it causes general bodily inflammation, and that's well known to be deleterious in pregnancy. that's been well studied. if a woman has some in formation from perio doctoral inflammation, of their gums, than that is associated with preterm labor. why do we think this vaccination has no downsides? sometimes the women have lip adenopathy, which means they can't breastfeed when they're trying to lactate. some have spun it to say the vaccine is safe. they studied 11 women, only look for the mrna 48 hours later, and then concluded that safe and women. you can't make that conclusion based on this study. i've had that experience with writing for the top medical

hundreds of millions and then you find things out you wish you knew before hand like mrn me on —- mrna myocarditis then you find another very rare cause of thrombosis including blood clots in the brain which can be fatal and those who died as a consequence of the j&j vaccine. the point is you have systems in place that can detectic events which is one per 100,000 people so these are extremely rare and because of those tragedies in the pas that led to the system to allow us to monitor vaccines in this case but i thank you are right dealing with any normal level of mistrust and is 65 million people continue not to get the vaccine despite the evidence i can save your life could not be more clear. >> as someone in the scientific medical community to communicate to the public what advice to give to other researchers to play their part to promote trust in the system? and you learn as you go. there is a lot in the air and that is true now and that has to be understood. so here is a series of tragedies which resulted in enormous amount of harm. so that is the process of knowledge. and when peo

without sending the message that people who have gotten two doses of mrna vaccine and i think we have an excellent vaccine that continues to have excellent pprescription including delta d -- protection and delta variant and by the way it's implicated and everybody is scurrying with the cash of the booster palooza we've created and we've created a fever and if you really want to get on top of the pandemic, that's not the issue. tell you that at the hospital or university of pennsylvania in philadelphia, when people and adults come into our hospital and in the intensive care unit, not they haven't gotten the third dose and not that they've gotten any doses and till we get on top of that, we'll heighten the major impact-over the pandemic. emily: i share your perspective. how do you deal with a post-pandemic world. so i want to ask you about your experiencelying in this pandemic where everyone is interested in vaccines and more people i'm sure, while i would guess consider themselves to be experts in vaccines. there was a meme going around early on that entertained me about a the armchair

the sending the message people who had gotten two doses of mrna vaccine were not fully immunized. we have an excellent vaccine that continues to have excellent protection against serious disease including delta variant and all age groups up to the present time but you would never know it by the way it is communicated because everyone is carrying to cash in on this booster paul loser that we've created where we've scared people, created this third dose fever and if you want to get on top of this pandemic that's not the issue. at the hospital, university of pennsylvania, philadelphia when adults come into the hospital and in the intensive care unit it is not because they haven't gotten the third dose, it's because they haven't gotten any doses and until we get on top of that we will not have an effect on this pandemic. >> guest: i share your perspective. it is hard to pull back and see the forest from the trees but if a new disease emerged today that had hospitalization and mortality rate of vaccinated people, we would not have shut the world down for that. those are important messa

they're pretty similar in terms of their mrna sequence. despite protein is nearly identical. there's a couple little mutations that are different. so the cdc felt comfortable looking at pfizer's clinical trial data for the previous bivalent vaccine option, which was the ancestral strain of ba1 and said, this is so close about 1400 people to actually make it direct comparison to what we're gonna see with ba4ba 5 and the ancestral strain so that is how they made the that is how they were comfortable and saying that there's gonna be a good immune response and also that it is by far going to be a safe vaccine. okay? let me fire off some quick ones at you who should should get one right now. so individuals above the age of 12 are eligible for pricer by the aged 18 for moderna, and as we mentioned is two months after you completed your last shot, but advisors are the cdc are actually recommending that if you can based on your situation and your area, wait a little bit longer, you know upwards of three months four months, you might actually get a better benefit what isn't as clear r

china's relying a lot on its domestic produced vaccines, which is not mrna vaccine.something like this were to happen, certainly i think from a psychological standpoint -- i want to preface that, this could be a boost for the markets however we want to be careful here what we don't know is what will the adoption rates be in china for this foreign vaccine whether or not you would need a vaccine mandate and how will that work? then how long will it take to get the number of people that need to be vaccinated for this to be advantageous to china, how long would it take them to do that the final point is zero covid. we're aware that xi jinping is politically tied to this policy. how easy will it be to unwind this even if we get the mrna vaccine from moderna good news, but i would be very, very cautiously optimistic that it can happen fast and happen in time enough have a rebound at the closing of the year here >> yeah. i would also note we slipped past a key level on the dollar versus the chinese yuan, 7, it shows you some of the pain you're talking about if you're a u.s.

but we went through at the mrna of these vector virus these geneticth vaccines.t many ways there much easier to do any that one gene. in many ways the gene you're interested in. you're interested in the gene with the surface protein. it was easier than the others. so i think that sort of surprised me. what really surprised me negatively is how bad we were at handling this pandemic. just with the simple things. making sure we can have adequate testing and adequate quarantining, masking and social distancing. it's gotten under much better control japan or australia, we were at one of the worst countries did for parts of the world's population% of the world's death. it surprised me if i would not have imagined what had been technologically advanced as we are to have done that.la we always claim the american exceptionalism. we were not exceptional b there. >> we will see how we end up with mortality totals globally. i think we do sometimes fall prey to these comparisons because we are actually better at identifying deaths and may be more transparent about reporting t

some of the testing ws done using actually the omicron 1 variance, but we expect that with the mrna that form that it should work well against ba.4 and ba.5. both of the shots arey utilizing these updated strains. remember, the fda recommended is about two months. months ago. they were able to quickly manufacture, get these quickly ready for manufacture to to present safety data, and move move forward with this. i think this is remarkably important bee we need this to be deployed before we enter another big wave . what has happened the last coe of years, we are in the middle of a wave when we start to roll these vaccines out and people ae wondering what is going on. >> does this new booster offer redder protection than the past? >> it does. actually, some of the testing done by moderna and pfizer compared the immune response in people who got just the old booster, versus this booster that includes both the old variance and the newer sub variants. we found that actually actually this booster produces r produces better immunity againsn against omicron and we expect whatever we deal with ne

for example, to prevent cancer scientists are exploring whether mrna, vaccine technology that broughts a safe and effective covid-19 vaccines could be used, to stop cancer cells when they first arrived. to target the right treatments we are learning more about how to use genetics, immune response and other factors to tell which combinations of treatments are likely to work best for each individual. to addressing equities, we can ensure prevention detection, treatment, reach patients in urban, rural, suburban communities so they have equal access to catch diagnostics, therapeutics and clinical trials. as part of the supercharged moonshot, all use my authorities as president to increase funding, to break logjams and speed breakthroughs. i will form a new cancer cabinet, driving a whole new government effort to increase all possible asset within our power from nasa, those who know more about radiation than any doctor does, to the defense department, that has ability to calculate the energy department. helping human services, the secretary plays a key role in the cancer department, as doe

it looks as though protection from the mrna primary series of two shots or even after a booster starts to wane or decline, even against hospitalization protection, so the point is everyone's going to need a booster, which means that if you have not got -- obviously, if you have not gotten vaccinated, you need to get vaccinated. if you have been vaccinated but not boosted yet, now is the time to do it. and even if you've gotten a single booster, you need two boosters. if you are over 50 and have gotten two boosters and are more than two to four months out, you are going to need a third booster as well, a fifth immunization. the reason is twofold. one, it will dramatically reduce the likelihoodt you'll be hospitalized or have to go to an icu with covid-19. second, the existing lineages is still with us, the ba-5, so this gives protection from that and the subvariant. the last reason, which people don't talk about a lot, is we really don't know what's coming down the pike. we don't know what's going to happen this fall and winter and whether we will see a brand-new variant of concern that

. >> we also are hopeful that the waning immunity that we've seen with the mrna vaccines will be overcome by a longer immunity with these intranasal vaccines. >> well, the doctors are and clinical trials alongside a biotech company in india. and now the vaccines being given out in india on an emergency basis. we'll see if it makes its way here. marin county has filed a lawsuit against biotech giant manson of monsanto alleging chemicals that they produced known as p c b's contaminated the community cities on the lawsuit include sandra fell and the they claim that monsanto knew about the dangers of the chemical before. well, for more than 50 years, but continued to promote the products anyway, the seabees were used in everything from cool and sand lubricants. it was later banned in 1979. the county says similar lawsuits have been filed nationwide alleging that monsanto deliberately misled the public environmental regulators and its own customers so that it could reap massive profits from pcb sales. there's a new robocall scam circulating across the country and it's targeting people who may

this is not a replacement for the first two shots of you got an mrna vaccine or the single shot if you got jay and jay got it. all right good to know that so i want to ask you though. it doesn't matter which maker you get pfizer or moderna for the booster based on what you got before. you know, i haven't seen any formal recommendations saying that you should seek to one of the other you're allowed to swap like you were for the previous booster shots, but kristen one thing to take into account is the difference in the actual concentration of the of the product in moderna versus pfizer. so if you previously have gotten madonna and you had a side effect or an adverse reaction from it, let's say you had a fever you feel kind of crummy for a couple days that may happen if you get another pfizer shot versus getting a pfizer one so long story short child health professional if you have any specific concerns about previous administrations, and that's the best way to go. but as of right now there is no specific recommendation between modern art advisor if you need to get one get whichever one i

for example, to prevent cancer, scientists are exploring whether mrna vaccine technology that broughtfe and effective covid-19 vaccines could be used to stop cancer cells when they first arise. to target the right trumans we are learning more about how to use -- treatments, we are learning more about how to use genetics, other immune responses and factors, the tell what combination of treatments will work best for each individual. to address inequities, we can ensure that prevention, detection, treatment, can reach patients in urban, suburban, rural, tribal locations. so they have access. as part of the supercharged moonshot i will use my authority as president to increase funding, break logjams, to speed breakthroughs. i have also formed a new cancer cabinet that is driving a whole government effort to real -- unleash every possible effort from our power. from nasa, the nose more about radiation than any doctor, to darpa, i can do calculations -- that can do calculations. as does marty walsh, a childhood cancer survivor that is committed to help america get time off or cancer screeni

first, safety. 600 million doses of mrna doses have been administered in the u.s. alone with billions given to people globally through robust safety monitoring systems, we have an extensive body of safety data, good or better than we have for any prior vaccine. in addition in clinical trials more than 1700 people have received mrna vaccines with no additional safety concern. regarding effectiveness data from the pivotal covid mrna efficacy trials in 2020 showed a remarkable monday for the 95% efficacy against symptomatic disease. we later learned through real-world evidence vaccine production, particularly against infection wanes over time but that additional doses enhance protection, particularly against severe disease leading to hospitalization or death. now, what should we expect from recently updated vaccines? data from pfizer and magenta have shown vaccines have sequences from both the original kobe one virus and omicron ba1 variant induced higher titers against omicron and the original vaccine. these vaccines induce higher antibody titers against all stars vi

neither have we seen china moved to acquire the mrna vaccines they would need to give their population shot at resilience from the virus. my assumption is we stop moving in that direction after october 16, but the proprietary steps don't seem to be being taken. francine: maria, from a market standpoint? maria: things are obviously very complicated, which we are seeing across the globe. the issue with china as we have much less visibility of what is going to happen. so, it is really something to watch closely. we have various information on what we can expect going forward. francine: does it change your perception on emerging markets, is there anything you would buy as an intolerant if -- as an alternative to the west? maria: there is opportunities, may be outside china in that respect. but there is opportunity for diversification still. watching the issue of global growth which is something we will touch more broadly than single countries. francine: looking at real estate in china, is it worse this time? >> certainly, covid zero isn't making life easier. people who are locked in at hom

we would expect them to move to a large number of mrna vaccines to give its covid naive population maximumt they have not done so so far . that raises questions about what the plan is and when the eventual exit from covid zero will take place. jon: when it comes to sentiment, which sometimes can be tangible, but there are ways to measure how much the market focus will be on sentiment? tom: there are a couple of things the market is going to need to hear in order to shift to the more positive view on china. both are hard to deliver. the first is a credible plan for how to exit from covid zero. the second is how to draw a line under the slump in the property market. that will require significant stimulus, much more than the cute basis points of rate hikes which the pbc has been stated. it will also raise questions about rich real estate developers go into bankruptcy under which survive. jon: great to get your analysis. we want to stay on the china theme. a different thread we have been watching is chipmakers under pressure and nvidia sending warning signs about new rules regarding artificial

they wanted people to lose their job based on getting an mrna shop or not and unfortunately having theponization of this government did something when you talk about 87,000 irs agents, who is not going to go after? it's going to go after the people that he was attacking in his speech last night. >> raymond: governor, here's what biden said about acceptable republicans. watch this. >> not every republican embraces their extreme ideology. i know because i've been able to work with these mainstream republicans. american democracy only works only if we choose to respect the rule of law and the institutions that were set up in this chamber behind me. only if we respect our legitimate political differences. >> raymond: governor, who made biden the passport officer of mainstream republicanism, and does the florida fit in that definition do you think? >> look. he talks law. what has he done? he violated his oath of office to take care that the laws are faithfully executed by opening the border. he's not following the law. look at what he did with the student loan bailout. congress never author

however, if you're a believer in mrna therapeutics as being a fairly large sale of therapeutic sales,rom now, you know then you could keep owning moderna and even buy some on extreme dips. >> i wonder, to your point, as revenues from the vaccines start to abate, and they have to continue to spend a lot of money on these future opportunities, is there going to be a period of time where it's just all on the com to a certain extent and, therefore, perhaps the stock is not going to react well? >> you actually hit on our key concern going forward. it's less on the revenues. we've been modeling that for a year now i think it's well understood they're going to decrease, probably 50% by next year and more after that. the real concern is around earnings they're spending so much this year the total op-ed spend will be more than vertex that's a significant spend if vaccine sales start decreasing rapidly, you could have one or two years going back to negative earnings, which is bad in itself, but there's also -- there's a lot of funds all over the world, as you know, carl and morgan, that cannot

that we're very slow to finance here to give us a pan coronavirus shot and we're sticking with the mrna i like them especially for high-risk groups, but we can do a lot better with this. lauren: can i ask you a question, dr. segal, it is true a lot of people get severely sick after getting their shot or dose, what do you make of that? that makes me less hesitant to continue to get boost when had i'm out two days sick after it. stu: makes you hesitant to get boosted because you get sick. >> completely a very important point. i do think that this vaccine has a fair amount of side effects. you might want to make that decision with your doctor next time, lauren, because you're young and you're healthy. you know, you get to be older like me and what's his name over there, you might say, let's get the shots. you might get the shot. so here's the point, covid itself needs to be compared with the risk of the shot. covid can give you long covid. you know, you might have brain fog, might have fatigue, persistent symptoms. i'm worried about covid, and i am not afraid to have that discussion with a

. >> that the waning immunity that we've seen with the mrna vaccines will be overcome by a longer immunityh these intranasal vaccines. >> the doctors ran clinical trials alongside bahar at biotech in india. now the vaccines being given out in india on an emergency basis. >> as inflation continues in markets fluctuate. many americans want to know how much cash they should have tucked away in their savings in case of an emergency financial experts say that the target amount for your emergency fund should be around 3 months of expensive for dual earners expenses for dual earners. single closer to being recession proof. but 6 months of expenses stashed away. and of course, this is an ideal scenario. analysts and and and entrepreneurs and small business owners would probably have to have a year's worth of resources available in case of any emergencies that they may have. >> coming up next, want to contribute to the community? there's a chance to clean up the oakland estuary. we've got details straight ahead. and trey lance at his coming out party today at soldier field in chicago. but the bears

the vaccines produced by pfizer and moderna are nearly identical to mrna shots that were first authorized for use in the u.s. in december of 2020. but the new formulations target the ba.4 and ba.5 omicron subvariants that currently account for nearly all u.s. covid cases. vaccine experts say the new boosters remain safe, but it's far less clear how effective they will be. data submitted by pfizer and moderna to the fda relies on studies in mice. there is currently no clinical trial data studying the boosters' efficacy in humans. a cdc panel of vaccine experts meets today to discuss the boosters. if the agency approves them, as expected, shots will be available, free of charge, at pharmacies, doctors' offices and community health centers just after the labor day weekend. if not before. in saudi arabia, a woman has been sentenced to 45 years in prison for her social media posts. a saudi terrorism court convicted nourah al-qahtani of "using the internet to tear the social fabric" and "violating public order by using social media." this comes just weeks after a saudi court sentenced women's r

bloomberg is reporting that working with the world health organization to allow covid vaccine, mrna technologybe used with other vaccines. the stock is down eight. stuart: president biden said in the 60 minutes interview that the pandemic is over. roblox? lauren: roblox. stuart: they're down 4 1/2%. lauren: they told us last week, the august bookings disappointed of the we knew that. analysts are responding to it. goldman goes to 28 on the price target. roblox gets all revenue from the virtual purchases in app purchases. they will pivot to ads, that opens up pandora's box potentially of problems when the people use roblox are mostly kids and teens. stuart: got it. next case, hurricane fiona, did it touch down in puerto rico. the whole island i understand it is out of power. >> it is getting better, 1.3 million homes are without power. you can't use the fridge, everything goes bad. you can't turn on the lights. it is still too dangerous to make repairs across much of the island. the power company, luma says it could take several days to restore. fiona hit the dominican republic. stuart: a tough

the tweak has been to the mrna code so there is a better match with the spike protein of the ba.5 sub. and you have the code for the original virus. but otherwise there is no difference in the vaccination makeup. reporter: there is so much focus on vaccines these days because so many places, they are all but gone in terms of mask mandates and social distancing. tell me more about thinking the vaccine is a silver bullet. >> i think we are putting too much on vaccines to get us out of the pandemic. they are one, too, and three most important tools in the toolbox but they do not prevent all infections. they reduce the risk of infection but not to zero and they do not prevent all transmission. it is important to understand that people should be taking other measures. when you visit your grandmother at the nursing home, you may still want to mask even if you are fully vaccinated. the risk is that people think they are in vulnerable, they will not -- they are in vulnerable, when in fact, if we want to reduce the death rate we need to think about implementing other things. reporter: the fede

the tweak has been to the mrna code so that there is a better match with the spike protein of the ba.5on subvariant, and then you still have code for the original virus, but otherwise, there's really no difference in the vaccine formulation, so they are very safe. >> there is so much focus on vaccines nowadays when we talk about the overall covid response. in so many places, mask mandates, social distancing measures, they are all but gone. as i understand it, you have said that there are risks to thinking a covid vaccine is like a silver bullet. tell me more about that. >> i think we are putting too much on vaccines to get us out of the pandemic. yes, they are number one, number two, number three most important tools in our toolbox to fight covid, but the vaccines do not prevent all infections. they help reduce the risk of infection but not to zero, and they do not prevent all transmission, so i think this it's important for people to understand they still should be taking other measures. for example, when you go visit grandmother at the nursing home, you may still want a mask, even if

for example, to prevent cancers, scientists are exploring whether mrna vaccine technology that brought9 vaccines could be used to stop cancer cells when they first arise. to target the right treatments we're learning more about how to use genetics, immune response, and other factors. to tell which combinations of treatments are likely to work best for each individual. to address the inequities we can ensure prevention, detection, treatment, reach patients in urban, rural and suburban and tribal communities so they have equal access to cancer diagnostics, therapeutics and clinical trials. as part of the supercharged moonshot, i use my authorities as president to increase funding to break log jams and to speed break throughs. i've also formed a new cancer cabinet. there's driving a whole of government effort to unleash every asset from our power, from nasa that knows more about radiation than any doctor does to the defense department, and the energy department to do a million calculations per secretary. health and human services. as does marty walsh a childhood cancer survivor, committed

the mrna boosters in general are not holding up as well as we'd like in terms of preventing hospitalizations four or five months from your last booster. now is the time to get a booster if you haven't been boosted in a while. the second reason is this new booster targets both the original lineage that came out of central china and the ba.5 subvariant, which is the predominant one now. it's starting to go down, but it's still predominant. so that's the second reason. the third reason is we don't know what's coming later this winter. many of us are expecting another big covid wave variant to be determined. and by having this new booster, that gives you two shots on goal, one against the original lineage, the other against ba.5, we don't know if the next one coming down the pike is going to look more like ba.5 or the original lineage. this hedges bets that you'll be better this coming winter. >> who is eligible for this new booster for covid? and should they get it with the flu shot too? >> anyone over the age of 12 can get the pfizer booster. and anyone over 18 get the moderna booster. they're

we had the moderna chairman talk about where we're going with mrna technology, using digital means. i'm not going to be sunny -- not me i'm not sunny. there's a lot of things these people can do, the richest people in the world and most powerful i thought mark cuban talked about that yesterday he's doing cost-plus drugs which is fantastic. >> the apples and amazons in the world are in a different position are you going to press tim cook on that advertising push that he is doing right now, embarking on while up ending the landscape? some are calling it opportunistic, critics are calling it critical. where do you stand >> i don't like that tim cook is our national regulator of privacy. they're 100% doing the right thing. the question is do we want a company to be monitoring the facebooks, our privacy, the googles of the world, or do we want the government to do it i think directionally correct, and i don't think he loves it. but that's very in keeping >> he doesn't love it but he's going into advertising. >> but maybe he can do advertising in a way that's not quite as rapacious as it'

when you think about the experience of this platform, mainly vaccines that are mrna, we have aliens -billions of doses that have been given to people. it is like the strain change for influenza, which is given without extensive testing. we feel pretty comfortable that when you look at the totality of the data and experience, it is not something i'm concerned about. judy: i think it is fair to say that the success of these boosters will depend a lot on how widely they are accepted. how many people get them. at the same time, we are in a period when the country's vaccine delivery system has been scaled back. well back from what it was. there are now questions about why that is. the administration says they did not have congressional funding. which then raises the question, should the administration have done more to move funds around so that as long as this covid is the threat that it is that there is an easier ability for americans to get the vaccine. how do you see that? dr. fauci: i see that we need to do the best we can. that is the reason why you have heard several of us, as part o

. >> that the waning immunity that we've seen with the mrna vaccines will be overcome by a longer immunity with these intranasal vaccines. >> the doctors ran clinical trials alongside a biotech company in india. and now that vaccine is being given out in india on an emergency basis. >> ahead here on kron 4 news, a former mlb player turned police officer killed on the way to a 9 11 memorial in new york. we have the details coming up. and we had to danville where first responders and veterans were honored during a at remembrance ceremony. >> and tracking your getaway forecast. those of you looking to enjoy the cooler weather in the sierra. we're going to see hazy skies continuing more. my full forecast in just a few minutes. you go by lots of titles. veteran, son, dad. -it's time to get up. -no. hair stylist and cheerleader. so adding a “student” title might feel overwhelming. but what if a school could be there for all of you? career, family, finances and mental health. it's coming along. well, it can. national university, supporting the whole you. have you seen my new phone yet? it like, f

. >> we also are hopeful that the waning immunity that we've seen with the mrna vaccines will be overcomea longer immunity with these intranasal vaccines. >> the doctors ran clinical trials alongside a biotech company in india. and now the vaccine is being given out in india on an emergency basis. we'll see if it eventually make its way here to the u.s.. well, new this morning police are investigating a deadly stabbing that happened about 9.30, last night on the 100 block of fuel on a drive right near the park place shopping center. police say the victim is a 46 year-old man from the killer hasn't been arrested yet. this is the 17th homicide in toledo so far this year. meanwhile, in the east bay, oakland, police are looking for the gunman who shot a man yesterday afternoon. the shooting happened on gray street. police say they found the victim with multiple gunshot wounds. he was taken to the hospital and is listed this morning in stable condition. >> murray turned into a triple shooting in san leandro. it happened at an indoor marijuana growieg facility and we have video from the citizen

. >> moderna says that pfizer basically should be paying for using its mrna technology, both of the vaccinest on people being able to access either vaccine? >> no, i absolutely don't think it will at all. we know that there is a big public health issue here. we're all committed to working together with governments, with regulators around the world to do the very best thing for people, for patients, that's what we'll continue to do. and the legal proceedings will continue on their own as well. >> all right, dr. burton, thank you so much. people have a lot of questions about these boosters as they are coming available here. we appreciate your time this morning. >> thank you. thanks for having me. >>> christopher robin and winnie-the-pooh are reuniting, but there's no hugs. there's no honey here. the new trailer for the upcoming slasher film, you heard me right, next. >>> and this is not the preflight announcement you would expect from a pilot. >> this continues while we're on the ground, i'm going to have to pull back to the gate , quit sending naked pictures and let's get to cabo. get to cabo

. >> we also are hopeful that the waning immunity that we've seen with the mrna vaccines will be overcomewith these intranasal vaccines. >> and the doctors ran clinical trials alongside a biotech company in india. and now the vaccines being giving out in india on an emergency basis. we'll see if and when it comes to the u.s.. >> in the north, a marin county has filed a lawsuit against biotech giant monsanto alleging chemicals they produce known as >> p c b's contaminated. the community cities in the lawsuit in moran include sandra fell and nevado. they claim that monsanto knew about the dangers of the chemical more than 50 years and continue to promote the products anyway. seabees were used in coolant and lubricant and they were later banned in 1979. the county says similar lawsuits have been filed nationwide alleging that monsanto deliberately misled the public environmental regulators and its own customers so that it could reap massive profits from pcb sales. >> on the peninsula, a motorcyclist was rescued after falling 100 feet down an embankment into a creek over the weekend. this hap

we are relying on the history of these mrna vaccines and their safety profiles.here was a clinical trial done with the related form of omicron ba.1 and it showed broader protection against omicron and the strengthening of the responses to the vaccine. we do this often. once we know a vaccine is safe, when it comes to a slight change in the sequence of the virus that we are using in it, we tried to jump ahead so that we are keeping up with the virus and not behind with the virus is doing. host: there is a tweet from jj about testing, where can the public find manufacturer and cdc verified independent safety data and adverse events on each version of the vaccines i have heard the testing is been minimal? guest: the testing information is on the national registry, the national vaccine adverse registry page. you can go there and see all of the information. it is there unobstructed and without any bias. the companies are constantly reporting back to the fda on adverse effects from the clinical trials, the entire set of data from ba.1 bivalent vaccine is available on t

if they were to approve any of the foreign mrna vaccines which are effective, especially at suppressionld start to move away from the zero tolerance approach to covid and that would be an enormous tailwind for its economy. >> i feel like the market though has moved on from worrying about the chinese economy to worrying about the fed and the u.s. economy and the ecb and the european economy as inflation has stayed very high, and if china -- >> definitely. >> does ultimately go through with this and then we see this economy turn around, doesn't that add inflationary pressure >> 100%. chip has been a big source in the world right now. pretty much the only major source right now of disinflation, and it's actually helped europe survive the gas war that putin is waging against it because europe has been able to purchase surplus gas that china is consuming because the world has been so depressed. if you were to see the world economy rebound there, would no longer be the source of inflation and it could possiblience as bait the cpi pain you're witnessing in europe, the u.s. and elsewhere that's

you know what we've seen throughout this pandemic is that these vaccines, these mrna vaccines are extremelytty small change to the vaccine, will allow this vaccine to target the strain that's in our communities right now. we need to make sure that everyone wants that vaccine has the ability to get that vaccine. >> but how much more effective is it's supposed to be, so many breakthrough cases before even people who were vaccinated and booster and is it coming out just in time for the next variant? >> well, you know, we'll have to see, but one of the things that's really important to keep in mind is that the vaccines were developed to save lives and prevent severe infection and they remain very effective at that, they're not as good at preventing mild infection, not as good at preventing those illnesses that are really inconvenient, but in terms of saving lives they're highly effective, but in terms of the new strain, what we know from the da from both companies, when they made another vaccine that had two strains of covid and one targeted omicron, the levels were much, my higher and having h

one is what we call the data from the mrna vaccines that have now been given to millions of people. is the one they're voting on and they're using the clinical data from trials that have been done on a bivaliant vaccine earlier in the summer that included the ancestral strain plus the ba.1, and they spent a lot of time talking about the data with ba.1 and showing that if you have the bivaliant that had the ba.1 you had a superior antibody response to omicron than the omnivariant, i.e., the ancestral strain. using that will inform their decision about whether or not they're going to approve this particular bivaliant booster. as you and i have talked about before, they sort of re-emphasized that there should not be any new safety concerns, that it's just the only part and this was the very specific question that was asked, the only part of the manufacturing process that was changed was the little snippet of messenger rna that was introduced in order to generate the appropriate antibodies to the right spike protein, in this case, ba.4 and ba.5 and making the analogy to how we change an

in the study they studied, eleven women only looked for the mrna 48 hours later and then concluded that it's safe in women. you can'you cat make that concln from this study. nclusionmy opinion, the editorsd the authors of the paper this is how you should conclude.ce i've had that experienceith with writing for the top medical journals., i've published hundreds of peer review articles out of johns hopkins, and the editorsut of will often say, you need toitor write it this way and you're in a dilemma. do youth useis way the profile, the journal to publishal the study? dilem. or do you retract it overt a dispute because a coupley? editors have a lot of power and control the fear seems tol. be showing up at the homes ofr:l a lot of different people recently. will anyone everl be heldtabl accountable for this? seems like some of these risks were known.e you justsome o said inflammatioe well known risk for children in utero. will anyonn.e be held accountabe ? >> yeah, a lot of humility long would have gone a long way iwan just being honest with people about what we don't know.don't w >> and t

at the point of the injection and more radiation found in the liver after the vaccination with the mrnaaccines. but the study documented they have found that the mrna ends up going to the liver and rewriting the body's d.n.a. for them. we don't know where all that's going too end up. but it certainly doesn't appear to be going a good direction. and i've got no problem with people continuing to give the vaccinations and the boosters. i think that's fine. so long as the wonderful doctrine that we develop making health care better than it's been in the history of the world called inform consent. that doctrine that requires that a physician, health care provider advise the patient of all the potential risks of a vaccination, treatment, surgery, whatever, and then letting them talk to their doctor and making their own mind up about whether or not to go through with it. and if we can do that, and i'd submittals allow the health care -- submit also allow the health care providers, the health care pharmaceuticals to be liable for any damage that they cause if they don't allow informed consent a

the upcoming flu shots are going to contain the mrna gene editing software.f you take a flu vaccine this upcoming season, understand you are not taking the regular vaccine. they are going to try to get it into you one way or another. host: that is robert, independent line. about a half hour of calls on covid and what you have learned from your experiences over the last two years dealing with the issue. you can call in on (202) 748-8000 for democrats. (202) 748-8001 for republicans. independents, (202) 748-8002. text us if you wish at (202) 748-8003. you can also post on facebook and twitter as well. as we talk about this, several items in the news other than the issues of covid specifically dealing with former president trump. the washington post taking a look at materials gathered from his mar-a-lago home, documents describing foreign government military defenses, including nuclear capabilities found by fbi agent who searched the residence at mar-a-lago. some documents detail top-secret operations, operation so closely guarded that many senior national secur

ma combined with the introduction of the mrna vaccine into china. think that is probably one think we will see some sort of turning point. the rest of the world is going down the path of living with covid. china is unlikely to do that before the political events later in the year. shery: an economy is dependent on what is happening in australia -- china is australia itself. we saw the sector taking a hit with the fit rate hikes. what are you seeing in australia and do you see any opportunities in the property sector going forward? >> there will be opportunities. in australia, they have contributed massively. [indiscernible] the ultra low interest rates we had a year or two ago and that is reversing. interest rates are pulling the rug out from under the property market. the central banks here and other central banks are signaling more rate hikes. the ongoing track in the property market, property partners in australia are pulling 4%. you are going to see a way to go. that will provide opportunities for investors, it may be a bit too early two hunting