. >> it is in this environment human resources rules that don't make any sense really for mroit es.t is uncertainty about taxes coming into the marketplace. they want to regulate fan motors over horse power in a highly competitive industry. >> they say it's necessary to carry out the purposes of a 1 of the epca whatever that is to conserve the energy resources of the nation. >> they are on my side. >> you want to make money. >> we are constantly testing fans there's an industry with a scientific approach to this. >> it is helping you sell fans. >> absolutely. you are talking about a free market, john. >> they don't understand it. you have been in business for 35 years you built it from nothing to 700 employees. it was different 35 years ago. >> absolutely. compared to today it seemed like no regulation. certainly not at the federal level. >> we have state things to deal with now the government will be engaged in our healthcare after 25 years of self insured and efficient we don't need their help. >> i have my own copy of obama care. >> mine is much fresher than yours because i didn'