mrs. thatcher was doing. we had never seen a prime minister sit in the mud with a calf before.ing. >> listen, i'm not standing -- >> she saw newspapers as very important, very strong back in those days. no 24-hour news, no internet. newspapers were still king really for the still image. she knew that was a powerful medium, and she would use it. >> when i was working for the "financial times," i actually thought that michael brunson, who was the mrs. thatcher's hairdresser, he seemed to have such wonderful contacts with her. >> if we could record about 15, 20 minutes, we're thinking about a 10-minute slot. >> you don't want to be too expansive. >> no, no, as always -- >> now, how are we in shots? >> i was in my job primarily as being a comrade to take the time to explain to the public what people in power, people in government, people that are elected are doing and why. >> it used to be easier, it seems to me, because a cabinet minister or prime minister will be quite happy to talk to me directly rather than through kind of a whole filter of spats. >> i can see why you think thi