mrs thatcher, could i ask you to comment? 0ur cameras captured history. it's here. very pleased that i got more... we saw power transferred. the scottish parliament adjourned on the 25th day of march in the year 1707 is hereby reconvened. so wales, after all that, has voted yes. and it is a very good morning in wales. . good morning from brian redhead and john humphrys. it's thursday... testy conversations. well, you've been a supporter of the labour party— all your life, brian. so i expect you to say something like that. i do you think we should have a one minute silence now in this interview for you to apologise for daring to suggest did you threatenj to overrule him? i took advice on what i could or could not do... did you threatenj to overrule him? the common market embraced. you see, yes is now showing at 67%. then the eu rejected. the british people have spoken and the answer is we're out. we saw them come... we'll have a new prime minister in that building behind me by wednesday evening. and go... hums t0 himself 100 years on... ..to serve the country i love.

mrs thatcher, could i ask you to comment? 0ur cameras captured history. it's here.ally very pleased that i got more... we saw power transferred. the scottish parliament adjourned on the 25th day of march in the year 1707 is hereby reconvened. so wales, after all that, has voted yes. and it is a very good morning in wales. . good morning from brian redhead and john humphrys. it's thursday... testy conversations. well, you've been a supporter of the labour party— all your life, brian. so i expect you to say something like that. i do you think we should have a one minute silence now in this interview for you to apologise for daring to suggest that you know how i vote? did you threaten to overrule him? i did not overrule... did you threaten to overrule him? i took advice on what i could or could not do... did you threaten to overrule him? the common market embraced. you see, yes is now showing at 67%. then the eu rejected. the british people have spoken and the answer is we're out. we saw them come... we'll have a new prime minister in that building behind me by wednesd

and i really realized that although inadvertent, i become almost a cheerleader for mrs. thatcher because i was following her agenda. she was determined to get half the minds back of work and then she could declare victory, which she did. and it was done on the back of the news media. britain's trade union still live in the shadow caused by the fence then by some of the street in san p. strike closing europe. a membership is declined by heart peak in the late seventy's . the journalist who used to cover the industrial correspondence of all but vanished to reply is by business reporters. mom will generalists like the present is mit lynch's face. you're often better. it generates heat for ratings and clicks than they are shedding lights. it makes me laugh honestly that you have the food as your profile because that's a man who really haven't got the world. well, it makes me laugh at your level of journalism has descended so far that you can't think of any other question robin. i think i'm here with the picket line for the latest rail strike in central london. it's the warranty 7 strikes so

i was just thinking, looking back, you know, mrs thatcher always used to sneer at the idea of referendumst govern by plebiscites "in this country." i mean, there is, with hindsight, it does seem that a yes/no vote was too crude a mechanism for something as complicated as pulling out of the eu and finding a new role in the world — just let me finish. and it's taken six years and we still don't know what it is that we have created by leaving the eu. we still don't know where we're going, we're still confused and there are still difficulties on every front because of it. yeah, no, i'm intrigued to hear your views and i think it's fair to say you're freer to speak now than you were when you were... yes, true. ..in the bbc full time. do you think, looking back, that you ever betrayed your personal feelings and opinions in the course of interviews with those in power? no. never, ever? don't think so. do you think people have any idea how you vote? my wife doesn't, and she's the closest person to me there is. you never discuss with anyone how you vote? never told anyone. never discuss politics?

mrs. thatcher's union laws . but mrs. thatcher's union laws. but he's going to say this for the unions.s very political in his speech. but the party agree with james about is that he's certainly been listening there's a people who within the a bunch of people who within the labour it's called the labour party it's called the blue are brexit blue labour group who are brexit supporting people who feel that the labour party has lost touch with its traditional base, which is certainly true and they feel they've got some solution to that for the first time that and for the first time they're listened to by the they're being listened to by the labour labour leadership. and so this of take control this idea of take back control and to take it was very and trying to take it was very cheeky in a way. i mean, very audacious. take that phrase over and make the labour party fray as a matter very brave thing to do. i think he is onto something there i think he's wrong there where i think he's wrong and disagree with james and where i disagree with james is don't i think people is that i don't i thin

mr. thatcher adhered to when she was guided by the fact that britain should develop at the expense of speculativeanges, and the concentration of banks, but within themselves. but the most important thing is that now they are not competing with the united states of america, they are competing with the asia-pacific region plus with the middle east, competition has intensified and therefore such a very difficult financial economic situation in the uk itself is good. these are the resignations that took place just the other day, and in zelensky’s apparatus, the high-profile resignations of a dozen people, a dozen high-ranking officials. some experts - this is being compared with what you say that a struggle has begun between american and british influence on zelensky. do you agree with this or not, i completely agree without argumentation, but it should be noted that it is not zelensky who makes resignations, but they make resignations, and personnel, and employees of, uh, british or american intelligence services who sit there and say to remove this today. well, the director of the cia did not accid

mrs. thatcher stayed the time and the tory government still won. difference are deaf friends to politicians disappeared during the time of spitting image because we started to do things and also the royal family. those are the two areas where i think spitting image didn't change the government, but it changed attitude towards the royal family there was less deference towards royal family and we're seeing that being didn't bring down the conservative government under john down the conservative government underjohn major. i only say that because my abiding memory of spitting image is him obviously grey saying obviously completely grey saying to norman moore, please . i mean to norman moore, please. i mean it completely ridiculed him as well. that's the other point about spitting image. it's about perception and he was our take on him was that he was a great man . steve bell in the guardian man. steve bell in the guardian had a different take. we discovered that the john major tucked his shirt into his underpants . yes, that's right. underpants. yes,

mrs. thatcher is to have far in your belly. he is very like her. he's cautious.tail before. he commits himself. but once he's committed himself, he needs to show more enthusiasm for what he's doing and sound less like the family accountant. your family has an account? yeah, it does. it does so i think he's. and i think he'll learn that he's been there a few weeks. do you think. he's got the character, the backbone thatcher did, because that's the ultimate quality that's needed at this moment, isn't it? because he's going to have to battle the unions and he's going to have face down many to have to face down many interest in order to interest groups in order to pursue his vision for the economy . well, that's judging by economy. well, that's judging by an high standard. an incredibly high standard. mrs. the greatest mrs. thatcher was the greatest peacetime minister we've peacetime prime minister we've ever suspect this since ever had. i suspect this since lord at turn the lord salisbury at the turn the century us. but he's is century before us. but he's is undoubt

mrs. thatcher is to have far in your belly. he is very like her. he's cautious.tail before. he commits himself. but once he's committed himself, he needs to show more enthusiasm for what he's doing and sound less like the family accountant. your family has an account? yeah, it does. it does so i think he's. and i think he'll learn that he's been there a few weeks. do you think. he's got the character, the backbone thatcher did, because that's the ultimate quality that's needed at this moment, isn't it? because he's going to have to battle the unions and he's going to have face down many to have to face down many interest in order to interest groups in order to pursue his vision for the economy . well, that's judging by economy. well, that's judging by an high standard. an incredibly high standard. mrs. the greatest mrs. thatcher was the greatest peacetime minister we've peacetime prime minister we've ever suspect this since ever had. i suspect this since lord at turn the lord salisbury at the turn the century us. but he's is century before us. but he's is undoubt

mrs. thatcher meant business and she wasn't going to give so isn't going to give in.lution to this rather than passing legislation just the government make just for the government to make it you're not it abundantly clear you're not going on pay demands going to give on any pay demands when go on and to when people go on and stick to it and wouldn't need this. is this a day the school? of course. you know, i'm i'm merely just i'm just merely putting a different point to the minister now. mean, i completely agree now. i mean, i completely agree with you. and i think to be fair to prime minister, he's been pretty comes to pretty robust when it comes to nurses pay that he wouldn't nurses pay in that he wouldn't agree to a 19% pay demand, which is their initial task. he's also been pretty clear at been pretty, pretty clear at prime minister's questions this week that he will he accepted the independent pay reviews, bodies, recommendations for the current pay year. he's not going to budge on that . he's willing to budge on that. he's willing to budge on that. he's willing

mrs. thatcher's time . bags. and mrs. thatcher's time.s of lots of labour, women, lots of labour recently labour women recently saying they homeless they feel politically homeless because they think labour's got a problem. well that's a woman problem. well that's about the trends and i think, i mean i think that the problem , i mean i think that the problem, i mean i think that the problem, i mean i think that the problem, i mean i certainly think rosie duffield should not have been heckled by her own side . i mean heckled by her own side. i mean there's heckling the in the there's heckling in the in the house of commons that on house of commons that goes on all time. i thought all the time. i thought i thought was appalling thought it was appalling and whether rosie or whether i agree with rosie or not i think i think that she should have been listened to in respectful silence, even if people even having people disagree or even having to that. i know, i know. it to say that. i know, i know. it is ridiculous . food for thought is ridiculo

mrs. thatcher was. ken baker. ken baker. thank you. yeah, that's a member of the mail.o. so yes, it was. it was. it was a fun . but you weren't you was a fun. but you weren't you weren't cheerleaders, the thatcher regime. it's just that , you know, comedians well, comedians are there to sort of characterise politicians in a comedic way. and this was your take on thatcher and the puppet designers? they just identify that this was a central lie, a very masculine prime minister. yeah, i think john lloyd , our yeah, i think john lloyd, our producer who was comic legend behind the 9:00 news, black spy, i mean, he's genius. genius. great greatest mind in comedy. i'm worked with he didn't like the word satire and he characterised the show as it's . characterised the show as it's. sunday 10:00 might have been in the pub you've got a hard work tomorrow basically spitting images to the rich famous and that's what was thinking about it now i think thing that spitting image achieved if achieved is the right word it helped destroy difference. yeah and we had deference politicians we

mrs. thatcher was. ken baker. ken baker. thank you. yeah, that's a member of the mail.o. so yes, it was. it was. it was a fun . but you weren't you was a fun. but you weren't you weren't cheerleaders, the thatcher regime. it's just that , you know, comedians well, comedians are there to sort of characterise politicians in a comedic way. and this was your take on thatcher and the puppet designers? they just identify that this was a central lie, a very masculine prime minister. yeah, i think john lloyd , our yeah, i think john lloyd, our producer who was comic legend behind the 9:00 news, black spy, i mean, he's genius. genius. great greatest mind in comedy. i'm worked with he didn't like the word satire and he characterised the show as it's . characterised the show as it's. sunday 10:00 might have been in the pub you've got a hard work tomorrow basically spitting images to the rich famous and that's what was thinking about it now i think thing that spitting image achieved if achieved is the right word it helped destroy difference. yeah and we had deference politicians we

mrs. thatcher mark to just yet, but this is his opportunity cast himself in that mould .that mould. i mean, he's certainly got the work ethic, the attention to detail. i wonder whether underestimating him. well the proof is in the pudding. i mean , where has he pudding. i mean, where has he been all these months? why we had his i don't know what he called it wasn't a party political broadcast. it was some sort the nation. sort of address to the nation. he the other in the form of he did the other in the form of a question and answer. it was so underwhelming. this man is in charge a country, for charge of a country, for heaven's isn't what heaven's sake. isn't that what he's. he's busy running the country to sort out the country trying to sort out the migrant crisis, northern migrant crisis, get the northern ireland protocol all resolved and potentially making a plan to tackle the unions . there's a tackle the unions. there's a happy medium. i quite agree. we don't necessarily want somebody who's front doing who's out front and doing nothing behind. so you're suggesting li

mrs. thatcher mark to just yet, but this is his opportunity cast himself in that mould .that mould. i mean, he's certainly got the work ethic, the attention to detail. i wonder whether underestimating him. well the proof is in the pudding. i mean , where has he pudding. i mean, where has he been all these months? why we had his i don't know what he called it wasn't a party political broadcast. it was some sort the nation. sort of address to the nation. he the other in the form of he did the other in the form of a question and answer. it was so underwhelming. this man is in charge a country, for charge of a country, for heaven's isn't what heaven's sake. isn't that what he's. he's busy running the country to sort out the country trying to sort out the migrant crisis, northern migrant crisis, get the northern ireland protocol all resolved and potentially making a plan to tackle the unions . there's a tackle the unions. there's a happy medium. i quite agree. we don't necessarily want somebody who's front doing who's out front and doing nothing behind. so you're suggesting li

mrs. thatcher decided she'd go for the channel tunnel. yeah that was it.a dedicated railway station at waterloo or extended it for the channel tunnel trades . we built channel tunnel trades. we built tunnels through kent tunnel . the tunnels through kent tunnel. the channel was a huge project . channel was a huge project. there was no messing. then we transferred . she was a prime and transferred. she was a prime and she got things . well, it also. she got things. well, it also. but look here's another example we're very pleased with elizabeth line. yeah. okay in france of paris, the first elizabeth line was opened in 1997. they got five of them. now, perhaps we should get a few french engineers all right. and take over our railways . that's take over our railways. that's denis mcshane. he's with me until now. today is holocaust memorial day . events are being memorial day. events are being held across the country, including like the london eight, which should be lit up in purple from 4 pm, a 92 year old holocaust survivor say they believe anti—semitism st

mrs. thatcher, recently night appear that organised at all but in actual facti organised at all but in actualerhaps the government are playing of government are playing a bit of a the a waiting game because the longer this on just like with the rail unions more annoyed the pubuc the rail unions more annoyed the public get the more public start to get in the more they'll lose favour. i mean, as you said, there's not really much any sort of much in terms of any sort of negotiation on i mean, what is happening? is there any conversations had? well, there are these conversations being had which the unions would say are not really conversations at all that the government is saying this. it's going to talk. then the problem keeps appearing to be the government to be that the government ministers little ministers schedule very little time for these time in their diaries for these conversations and the sort of implication from the unions is that about show are that they're all about show are not serious about getting some sort of resolution as you say it could be that the government is playing a long

mrs. thatcher. she was a difficult woman . i mean, that difficult woman.close to her. i was the youngest minister for four years. she wasn't easy. but the point is , she had a belief the point is, she had a belief in herself of a belief in her destiny . she had a patriotic destiny. she had a patriotic belief in this country. rishi is not able to generate much in the way of confidence on the part that he's people that he can do a thatcher and he can actually make the country believe in him and he cannot make the country believe, it would appear that he has got the answer to these problems. margaret thatcher, even at her lowest ebb, there was a strength of purpose there where? rishi strengths of strength of purpose. that's the thing at the moment. david is missing in action. unlike yourself , like missing in action. unlike yourself, like david mellor. always a pleasure. thank you . always a pleasure. thank you. let's bring you up to date with other stories that are going on today and the royal college of nursing could consider accepting a 10% pay rise for it