mrs. appelme to this special edition of "iowa press." and you're familiar with our format but we're in a different sitting here in council bluff. the audience has agreed not cheer during the debate, and we're following our regular iowa press format, that means no debate rules, meaning no opening or closing statements, just ideas and issues. i'll be moderating and questions will be coming from political journalists, "des moines register" columnist, kathie obradovich. and okay henderson. let me just say, mr. young, and mrs. appel, before we begin, we're producing this debate on september 11th, the anniversary of 9/11. there are half massed flags flight throughout the nation today. i'm wondering, mrs. appel, where were you on 9/11? >> well, i happened to be feeding -- when i found the news i was feeding my third child on our couch with my two-year-old son sitting beside me. >> how has 9/11 changed your life? >> well, i think it's made us more cognizant of the whole world, and knowing it's -- it is

mr. young and ms. appel, we are producing this debate on the anniversary of 9/11. there are half-mast flags flying throughout the nation today. i am wondering where were you on 9/11? >> i was feeding my third child on my couch with my 2-year-old son sitting beside me. >> how did it change your life? >> it made us more aware it is a dangerous world. i was driving two kids into the school and went by gray's lake and hundreds of flags were there. it was really moving to think of the lives lost that day and families left behind and the first responders that went in there and tried to help. >> mr. young, where were you? >> i was sitting at my desk on capital hill and i saw the first glimpse of this on tv on my desk. someone called over and said turn on the tv it looks like someone is flying into world trade center. it changes your life. >> how did it change your life? >> you want to live every die day to the full est because you never know when it is your last one. >> starting with gay henderson. >> 13 years on terrorism still exist and president obama announced he is a

seeing none, no other public comment we can go back to rebuttal with the appellant first mr. mitchell you have 3 minutes. >> hi again. >> yeah. we got the box it was directly across the street on burrow street and would that be with the hawaii with an. >> on the wine drive and on the side yes i don't know if it matters when you go fore a permit shouldn't you have the right address where you're putting it. usually i know upper talking about numbers i addresses. there's no one 10 burrows on that street they've made a mistake with the numbers and that counts somewhat i'm not sure but law by obviously they didn't do their homework because one hundred 6 is where they're putting it in front of the door and jumps to one 12 or 15 they've got the address wrong. i hope you take into consideration and right around the corner is a good place i told the at&t people at martin luther king at the corner of gerard they can cover it with interests i don't understand why they didn't look into those options >> mr. mitchel i'm not sure where i'm going with that but if this box was moved in a west

appel and mr. young welcome to this edition of iowa press. and you are familiar with the traditional format but this is a different setting with a television audience as well. they have agreeed not to cheer. and no opening or closing statements. just ideas and issues. i will be moderating and questions are coming from political journalist, des moines columnist and kathy henderson. mr. young and ms. appel we are producing this debate on the anniversary of 9/11. i am wondering where were you on 9/11? >> i was feeding my third child on my couch with my 2-year-old son sitting beside me. >> how did it change your life? >> it made us more aware it is a dangerous world. i was driving two kids into the school and went by gray's lake and hundreds of flags were there. it was really moving to think of the lives lost that day and families left behind and the first responders that went in there and tried to help. >> mr. young, where were you? >> i was sitting at my desk on capital hill and i saw the first glimpse of this on tv on my desk. someone called o

marie representative for the appellant and now the permit holder mr. johnson. >> good evening, commissioners. i just have a few points i'll make briefly. the first thing i want want to point out the new ordinance required the department it issue a new regulations within 60 days of the effective date of the ordinance the ordinance became effective on june 27th that 60s dazed expired yesterday without the department issuing the regulations. i'll be the first person to concede it the department has put considerable effort into drafting the regulations with multiple draft and down their utmost to get comments and met with at&t and others. but it's frustrating that the ordinance has been in effective only skwi days and the department is in violation of that. the position that the department has taken is that at&t's permit even though their not evidence whatsoever that the right-of-way should be denied on purely grounds. and i'd like to make a few comments for the record to remind the board how long that permit has been an issue at&t has been seeking this pe

appel,ndering, mrs. where were you on 9/11? be seating area third child on my couch with my two-year-old son beside me. >> how has 9/11 changed your life? >> it has made us more cognizant of the whole world. it is a dangerous world. i remember today we were driving to kids to school and the flags are all over, hundreds of flags there. and it was visually moving to think of all those lives that were lost that day and families that were left behind. and the first responders that went in there. >> mr. young, where were you? >> i was sitting at my desk on capitol hill in an office. first clips of this on a tv on my desk. someone called and it's a turn on the tv. it looks like someone has flown into the world trade center. when the second one hit, you knew there was a problem. life.nges your >> how has it changed your life? >> you want to live every day to the fullest because you never know if that will ever change. your family and friends come a spend valuable time with them and make sure they know that you care for them. >> we wil

mr. pacheco please go over the boards meeting guidelines and conduct the answering in. >> the board requests you turn off all electronic devising. >> appellant and representatives have 7 minutes to present their cases and 3 minutes for rebuttals people affiliated must include their comments within the 3 or 7 minute period the public has up to 3 minutes that are not affiliated with the parties to assist the minutes members of the public are asked but not their full participation. it felt like a really great starting point for the coming year. during this meeting, we managed to discuss some major revisions and to our bylaws and that will be finished within the next month or two and should be up for voting for approval. we also discussed about recruitments and outreach to make sure that this council's presence is known more in the community, not just to organizations bus to -- but to the general public so they understand what it is we have the power to do because i feel there is a misunderstanding and that is on our part and we developed strategies and ways to incorporate for increasing the outreach and getting people to understand what we can

mr. pacheco please go over the boards meeting guidelines and conduct the answering in. >> the board requests you turn off all electronic devising. >> appellant and representatives have 7 minutes to present their cases and 3 minutes for rebuttals people affiliated must include their comments within the 3 or 7 minute period the public has up to 3 minutes that are not affiliated with the parties to assist the minutes members of the public are asked but not required to submit a business card speaker cards and pens are available on the left-hand side of the podium the board welcomes our comments and suggestions there are customer satisfaction survey forms on the left side of the podium if you have questions please speak to board staff before or call the board office loshthd on mission street room 304 between van ness this is broadcast live and sfgovtv cable channel 78 and dvds of this meeting are available for purchase directly in sfgovtv. >> thank you for your attention we'll conduct the swearing in if you intend to testify and wish to have the board give your testimony evidentiary wealthy please stand and say i do after 23i6r78d any member of t

mr. pacheco please go over the boards guidelines and conduct the swearing in. the board requests you turn off all electronic devices the appellant and permit holder see has 7 minutes to present their cases and people physical evidence with those parties must include their comments within the 7 manipulates and members of the public that are not affiliated with the party have up to 3 minutes to address the board to assist the board in the accurate preparation of minutes members of the public are asked to the required to submit a business card when you come up to the podium speaker cards and pens are available on the left-hand side of the podium there are customer satisfaction survey forms and if you have a question about the board schedules please speak to the board staff or call the board office it is located at 1550 mission street this meeting is broadcast live on sfgovtv cable channel 78 and dvds are available for purchase directly in sfgovtv thank you for your attendance at this point we'll conduct our swearing in process if you intend to testify and wish to have the board give your testimony evidencey wealthy please stand and

appellant george. >> okay. so that's your position we'll hear from the gentleman. >> is that the gentleman's attorney so we'll hear from mr. johnson. >> good evening, commissioners foster johnson for at&t at&t didn't have any objection to hearing this appeal this evening or continuing to a later date, however, i have a request when i'll explain one of the issues that was raised on the briefing the only evidence that the gentleman offered in jurisdiction request is hearsay the government codes specifically says the administrative bodies can't basis their evidence on hearsay it appears that is what the board did my request give the board to give a reason other than the record why the board thinks the rule didn't appeal or at&t is incorrect about the law i ask this because this case that will be appealed and it's only fair to the trial judge which the reasons why you think you can take this decision and it's important that the judge know that it's also a requirement from the california supreme court that our findings reach the analytic gap between the evidence and the ruling i simply request that the board give some reason o

>> good evening my name is carl oil brown the appellant this is julia ask who is doing to be speaking for me, i'm requesting the relocation of a staircase mr. scott because of the third staircase it was one .5 feet away from my property is it far too close and ms. ask will speak for me. >> is that okay. >> i'm sorry can you state your name for the record. >> julie ask and ms. brown is asking for the relocation of the staircase it's close to the entrance to her kitchen and the second request for the field fire safety of the property given the proximity to the structure to her home. >> i'm assuming you read the brief the first one t is privacy shields e she's elderly and handicapped and had a stroke and fears for her privacy and the safety she feels the closeness of the staircase will interfere with her privacy she spend a lot of time at home the second issue around her security the proposed staircase makes it easy for someone to jump on the property line the intrarps to her kitchen normally she keeps the window's open because of the tare flow to the home especially open warm days the roof is flat and to she is dealing with the proximity she

appellant you have 7 minutes. >> do i need to do that without a presentation and why not do it. >> okay. let's do that. >> mr. foster would like to request a rescheduling of his matter an amended piece. >> a continuance we need to hear the basis for this. >> should i go through my preempted comments or cut to the chase. >> you want to give him a minute to explain why he wants to thank you for the opportunity continue it. >> if you review my brief there are a lot of persistence and technical issues involved basically, we're talking about here is the cart before the horse a variance before the process that's the essential problem the merits of my arguments are it through 5 are really did not on the building that the dr process results in. taken to the scream that the building next door to me becomes a one story cottage then my arguments it through 4 really kind of metal >> so what are you proposing we continue that to what. >> that's the problem commissioner a building permit has not been filed so we don't have a dr date i don't know if you would be comfortable passing a motions to continue within a reasonable

mr. pacheco. >> on that motion to uphold the 15 day suspension from the vice president on the basis the switching of the identification and mistake was made by the appellant on that motion probation officer to uphold the 15 days suspension commissioner fung president is absent commissioner honda. >> thank you. the vote is 3 to zero the 15 day suspension is upheld thank you. >> we're moving on to item 5 the next appeal micro versus the department of public works everest appealing the denial of a tree removal permit to replace one street tree we'll hear from the appellant please step forward. >> you have 7 minutes, sir and hi commissioners, i wish i didn't have to go through the process i've owned the property on norway regular it's a private tree i've done everything possible to keep alive and looking well i've widened the tree well and i'm sorry it's funny but but i've contributed to my neighbors sewer line replacement and replaced my sewer lines and replaced some squares the denial of my permit the department of public works said that i should go ahead and they'll give me size will expanding the tree well, the realty there is a water meter next to the el

mr. pacheco at this point will you go over the boards meeting board guidelines and conduct the swearing process. the board requests you turn off all electronic devices appellants and permit holders and representatives each has 7 minutes to print e present their cases and 3 moinz minutes for rebuttals. members of the public who are not affiliated with the parties have up to 3 minutes to address the board to assist the board the members of the public who wish to speak are asked but not required to present a card to the staff. speakers and pens are available on the left side of the podium the board welcomes your comments and questions dollar survey forms on the left side of the podium if you have questions please speak to board staff before the board meeting or call the board office on mission street room 304. this meeting is broadcast live on sfgovtv cable channel 78 and dvds are available for purchase at this point we'll conduct our swearing in process if you wish to have the board give our testimony weight pleases stand and returned please note that any member of the public my speech without this thank you. do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you're

appel assad. make no mistake, there is no military solution to this crisis. how can we shape an environment that the conducive to bringing the parties to the table? mr. secretary, you know better than anybody, we're out of good choices. there are no good choices in iraq and syria. no one in this country or this congress wants to be dragged into another open-ended war. but i fear now of all the bad choices the worst choice would be to do nothing. that's why i'm glad the house did the right thing yesterday in the vote. as the president said last week, we will hunt down terrorists who threaten our country wherever they are. we need to do this and we need to do it right. so i thank you again, mr. chairman and mr. secretary, i look forward to your testimony. >> and mr. secretary, welcome back. all of the members here are pleased to be joined by mr. john kerry, 68th secretary of state of the united states and without objection, i'll add that the witness's full prepared statement will be part of the record. members here will have five legislative days to submit any statements or questions or extraneous material they want to put in the record. mr. secretary.