callahan. and occ who had been a negotiator to participate in that process and the commission asked for updates on - there is mrs. mary - updates on this process. we have scheduled today as we have done in the past an update in open session and in closed session i will let director callahan talk about the way we're going tonight. good evening and welcome. >> good evening commissioners thank you for the opportunity to speak with you director hicks chief chaplain as well. i wanted to restate a lot of the things i said before to put it in context the department of human resources is charged with the resposbility of meet and confer contracts and the use of force policy have been the union has identified, they believe, impacts that fall within the scope of bar againing when there are items that fall within the scope of bargaining we have a legal obligations to meet and confer that, which means engage in a good faith process of exchange idea, consider alternatives and resolve or not resolve disagreements. the city has reserved it's position as to whether the issues in the policy fall within the scope of barg n bargain