mrs. taft lived until the 1940's, a prominent figure in washington. under threetice presidents, harding appointed him. what was his relationship like as a former president and chief justice with harding and coolidge and hoover? mr. seale: he was chief justice. he never presented himself as a former president, if that is what you mean, john. taft was a brilliant man. he had what he wanted. he was chief justice to them. that was his relationship with them. he never took the position of ex-president. >> did the public allow him to be just chief justice? did the press ever ask him questions about his experience and commenting on issues both as chief justice and as a former president? mr. seale: he was very restricted. he restricted himself very much from the press from anything like that, and his ideas were always welcome, and the public loved taft. they just never considered him strong enough as president. he was not a public figure like theodore roosevelt or even coolidge. ofwas a receding-sort individual, and intellectual, and i think he was a very popular chief justice. >> we mentioned before that president obama is expected to move into the kalorama neighborhood, also the neighborhood where pres