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mrs. crumbley texted her son, ethan, don't do it. and mr. t to his home purposely to search for the weapon because he was afraid his son had the weapon and was in fact shooting people and hurting them, which as we know, is exactly what happened. your honor, this is a very serious, horrible, terrible murder and shooting. and it has affected the entire community. and these two individuals could have stopped it. and they have every reason to know that he was dangerous and they gave him a weapon. and they didn't secure it. and they allowed him free access to it. furthermore, your honor, the purpose of bond is to secure further court appearances. and yesterday, they were charged with these counts of involuntary manslaughter. now, your honor, the communication between ms. schmidt and the prosecutor's office a text message was sent to me an was not replied to. and, you know, we don't have an obligation to cooperate. and there are good reasons for that. i think they've -- the fact that the events that played out show the reasons for that. now, mrs. s
mrs. crumbley texted her son, ethan, don't do it. and mr. t to his home purposely to search for the weapon because he was afraid his son had the weapon and was in fact shooting people and hurting them, which as we know, is exactly what happened. your honor, this is a very serious, horrible, terrible murder and shooting. and it has affected the entire community. and these two individuals could have stopped it. and they have every reason to know that he was dangerous and they gave him a weapon....
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mr. crumbley? >> no. >> miss crumbley? >> no. >> okay.sfied that the -- both of the defendants are comfortable with both attorneys representing them in this case. the attorneys have indicated on the record that they do not believe that there is a conflict of interest that they have spoken with both defendants in depth relative to any potential conflict of interest and whether or not the representation may jeopardize the right of each defendant to have the undivided loyalty of their lawyers. therefore the court will allow them to appear for purposes of the arraignment today on behalf of both defendants. >> thank you, your honor. >> now in terms of the arraignment, jennifer crumbley, i will arraign you first so if you please make sure that you get close to that microphone so that we can hear you. if at any time you cannot hear or see me, please put your hand up. we will stop the proceedings and try to figure out what's going on. do you understand that you are charged with the felony counts, count one involuntary manslaughter which is punish
mr. crumbley? >> no. >> miss crumbley? >> no. >> okay.sfied that the -- both of the defendants are comfortable with both attorneys representing them in this case. the attorneys have indicated on the record that they do not believe that there is a conflict of interest that they have spoken with both defendants in depth relative to any potential conflict of interest and whether or not the representation may jeopardize the right of each defendant to have the undivided...
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mr. crumbley today. i'll ask my law clerk if we can -- oh, it looks like children's village will have him brought in. >> if i may? >> yes. >> because the defendant is a juvenile under mcr 6.907, the prosecuting attorney must make a good faith effort for the juvenile's parents to be notified of the arraignment. i believe that ms. nadine was initially appointed to this case. he has made contact with the juvenile's parents. can i see in the zoom screen indication that the defendant's parents are, in fact, attending this arraignment? >> that is correct. i do see -- i'm not sure that that is them but they are identified as mr. and mrs. crumbley, parents, so i assume they are in the courtroom. their video is not on. i don't know if their audio is on. i assume that it is. so, yes, thank you for bringing that to the court's attention and making a record of that. and it does -- i can indicate that they actually -- mr. and mrs. crumbley, this is judge karniak. you are the parents of ethan crumbley is that correct?
mr. crumbley today. i'll ask my law clerk if we can -- oh, it looks like children's village will have him brought in. >> if i may? >> yes. >> because the defendant is a juvenile under mcr 6.907, the prosecuting attorney must make a good faith effort for the juvenile's parents to be notified of the arraignment. i believe that ms. nadine was initially appointed to this case. he has made contact with the juvenile's parents. can i see in the zoom screen indication that the...
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mr. crumbley, as with mrs. t yesterday, they were not fleeing prosecution contrary to the media reports. so i'm asking that they have a $50,000 or $100,000 bond with gps tether and pretrial services supervision. >> [inaudible] please. >> your honor, i agree with one thing, the court hasn't heard all the facts and neither has the pluck. she's, indeed can, correct, her client and mr. crumbley have an absolute -- we have a burden, and these are merely allegations, so i agree. and i just want to point out nobody needs permission. these defendants did not need my permission, and they didn't need law enforcement permission to go to the court and tell themselves in before the police department, the sheriff's department and turn themselves in. i agree ms. smith was perhaps in trial, she had a break from 11:45 to 2:45, and i can't imagine why they were surprised the whole country knew that these charges were coming. and lastly, to suggest that this, anyone is somehow using this incident to create press, there's a lot of
mr. crumbley, as with mrs. t yesterday, they were not fleeing prosecution contrary to the media reports. so i'm asking that they have a $50,000 or $100,000 bond with gps tether and pretrial services supervision. >> [inaudible] please. >> your honor, i agree with one thing, the court hasn't heard all the facts and neither has the pluck. she's, indeed can, correct, her client and mr. crumbley have an absolute -- we have a burden, and these are merely allegations, so i agree. and i...
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mr. crumbley today. we will have him brought in. >> because the prosecuting attorney must be know filed, we believe he was an initial client he hasn't made contact with the juvenile parents. this is an insurance case that the parents -- >> i'm not sure, but they are identified as mr. and mrs. crumbley. so i assume that they are in the courtroom, their video is not on. i don't know if their audio is on. i assume that it is. so yes. thank you for bringing that to the court's attention and making a record of that. i can indicate that -- you are the parents of stephen crumbley, is that correct? >> yes, that's correct. >> that's correct. >> thank you. if you can state your full names, that would be great. >> i'm jennifer crumbley. >> james crumbley. >> thank you very much. anything else from the people before we bring stephen crumbley in and -- >> no, judge. i would like to speak to the bond at the appropriate time. >> all right. so for arraignment purposes, the people versus ethan crumbley, case 216611, agai
mr. crumbley today. we will have him brought in. >> because the prosecuting attorney must be know filed, we believe he was an initial client he hasn't made contact with the juvenile parents. this is an insurance case that the parents -- >> i'm not sure, but they are identified as mr. and mrs. crumbley. so i assume that they are in the courtroom, their video is not on. i don't know if their audio is on. i assume that it is. so yes. thank you for bringing that to the court's attention...
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mrs. crumbley texted her soon, ethan, don't do it. and mr. crumbley went to his home purposely to search for this weapon because he was afraid his son had the weapon and was in fact shooting people and hurting them. which as we know, is exactly what happened. >> and athena jones is live in michigan. we may have to interrupt you in a few moments as we know the press conference with the sheriff is going to get started any moment. these accusations are so unsettling. tell us if you can real quick, what else did we hear at today's proceedings before we go to this press conference? >> reporter: hi, jim. we heard from the lawyers representing jennifer and james crumbley. something very interesting. they argued their clients were never planning to run away. they weren't trying to flee. they were getting their finances in order. listen to some of that from this morning. >> the press conference know. here we go. >> we are obviously, this has moved forward at lightning speed on lots of levels. so as it relates to the two suspects that were charged, the
mrs. crumbley texted her soon, ethan, don't do it. and mr. crumbley went to his home purposely to search for this weapon because he was afraid his son had the weapon and was in fact shooting people and hurting them. which as we know, is exactly what happened. >> and athena jones is live in michigan. we may have to interrupt you in a few moments as we know the press conference with the sheriff is going to get started any moment. these accusations are so unsettling. tell us if you can real...
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mr. crumbley? anything you wanted to indicate? >> your honor i had an opportunity to meet with him on friday afternoon. at this point, we are able to interact through the normal process of attorneys. i don't know whether this is the appropriate time or you refer a motion. i have concerns that his confinement in the jail pursuant to [inaudible], i am not sure that he is fully away from the sounds of the adult inmates. pursuant to the court rule, the there has to an assessment he is a menace to other juveniles it or can't be safelily detained in a juvenile facility. i understand the severity of what occurred. i think everybody does. i don't know if this indicates because the victims of this age he would be a menace. i have concerns about his mental and emotional well-being. he can't benefit from what the other inmates do. it's difficult because this jail is not designed for juveniles. i would like some redirection. do you want a motion? i feel that if [inaudible]. he would have greater human contact and more services available to hi
mr. crumbley? anything you wanted to indicate? >> your honor i had an opportunity to meet with him on friday afternoon. at this point, we are able to interact through the normal process of attorneys. i don't know whether this is the appropriate time or you refer a motion. i have concerns that his confinement in the jail pursuant to [inaudible], i am not sure that he is fully away from the sounds of the adult inmates. pursuant to the court rule, the there has to an assessment he is a...
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mr. crumbley and both his parents are being housed in the same jail. all three are in isolation. any concern that they may be a danger to themselves? >> we always have a process when anyone's admitted to our jail. they see a counselor and a classification person that goes through that process and one of the things on the checklist is, are you feeling depressed or suicidal? all of them have said no. but out of an abundance of caution, i have instructed our folks to treat them as if they're on suicide watch. and that's exactly what's happening. they're getting regular observational checks. >> you said something in the press conference that struck me today. you know, there have been a lot of questions about the school's role in this, there was a video out where a school official says there was nothing they should have done differently. paraphrasing. but you made the point if it was concerning enough for the parents to have been called we would have liked to have been called in. there's so many occasions like this where there are red flags that are missed in advance of one of these h
mr. crumbley and both his parents are being housed in the same jail. all three are in isolation. any concern that they may be a danger to themselves? >> we always have a process when anyone's admitted to our jail. they see a counselor and a classification person that goes through that process and one of the things on the checklist is, are you feeling depressed or suicidal? all of them have said no. but out of an abundance of caution, i have instructed our folks to treat them as if they're...
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mrs. crumbley that they gave their child a gun and encouraged him to do this. that's just not the case. >> reporter: and tonight, new details emerging about the school's actions hours before the shooting. a teacher reported a picture drawn by the alleged gunman depicting a person appearing to be shot, and disturbing phrases like, the thoughts won't stop, help me. in a statement the superintendent says the student claimed they were from a video game he was designing. the suspect stayed with counselors for an hour and a half. even doing homework. and at no time did counselors believe the student might harm others based on his responses and demeanor which appeared calm. he was eventually allowed to return to class because he had no prior disciplinary infractions and his parents refused to take him home. >> our hearts go out to the parents of those victims. trevor ault joins us live from the oakland county jail where the crumbleys are being held. we heard in your report, the superintendent is clarifying the school's actions before the shooting, but he also wants an
mrs. crumbley that they gave their child a gun and encouraged him to do this. that's just not the case. >> reporter: and tonight, new details emerging about the school's actions hours before the shooting. a teacher reported a picture drawn by the alleged gunman depicting a person appearing to be shot, and disturbing phrases like, the thoughts won't stop, help me. in a statement the superintendent says the student claimed they were from a video game he was designing. the suspect stayed...
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the semi—automatic handgun used in the attack was bought by mr crumbley four days before the attack.r. it is imperative we prevent this from happening again. no other parent or community should have to live through this nightmare. i have shared previously and i will reiterate today that gun ownership is a right and with that right comes great responsibility. based on the information and evidence i received today i am announcing charges against the shooters parents. jennifer and james. the charges are as follows. james is charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter. jennifer is also charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter. 0ur washington correspondent barbara plett usher told me more about the significance of these charges. it's an unusual step to charge him as an adult and the charges are very harsh so he is charged for about two dozen crimes. he killed four people and he injured around six so he's been charged with murder and also terrorism which is highly unusual. it's a case that has really shaken the county. his parents being charged is also very unusual. th
the semi—automatic handgun used in the attack was bought by mr crumbley four days before the attack.r. it is imperative we prevent this from happening again. no other parent or community should have to live through this nightmare. i have shared previously and i will reiterate today that gun ownership is a right and with that right comes great responsibility. based on the information and evidence i received today i am announcing charges against the shooters parents. jennifer and james. the...
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mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. >> reporter: 1:37, the dad calls 911 to reportun missing to say his son may be involved. but in the wake of the note just hours before the violence, officials clearly thought there should have been more. >> notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon, that they gave him, is unconscionable, and i think it's criminal. >> of course, there are questions about whether school officials acted properly, but the prosecutor says simply anyone who saw the warning signs who could have stopped this should have done something. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >>> the omicron variant of coronavirus is now found in at least a dozens u.s. states just days after the first case was identified in california. it's already been detected in nearly 40 countries but experts insist there's no reason to panic. the world health organization says no deaths have been reported from it. and so far, most cases have been mild. but it is taking a toll. have a look in south africa, where omicron was first found
mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. >> reporter: 1:37, the dad calls 911 to reportun missing to say his son may be involved. but in the wake of the note just hours before the violence, officials clearly thought there should have been more. >> notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon, that they gave him, is unconscionable, and i think it's criminal. >> of course, there are questions about...
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mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. >> reporter: 1:37 the dad calls 911 to report say his son may be involved. but in the wake of the note just hours before the violence, officials clearly thought there should have been more. >> the notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon that they gave him is unconscionable and i think it's criminal. >> reporter: of course, there are questions about whether school officials acted properly but the prosecutor says simply anyone who saw the warning signs who could have stopped this should have done something. don? >> tom foreman, thank you very much. joining me now the state attorney for palm beach county, florida. dave, thank you for joining us this evening. i wish we were talking about something better but my gosh, what an awful story. you know, parents are rarely charged in school shootings. do you believe four counts of involuntarily manslaughter can be proven given allegations the prosecutor laid out? >> good evening, don. this case presents a set of egregious facts
mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. >> reporter: 1:37 the dad calls 911 to report say his son may be involved. but in the wake of the note just hours before the violence, officials clearly thought there should have been more. >> the notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon that they gave him is unconscionable and i think it's criminal. >> reporter: of course, there are questions about...
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the semi—automatic handgun used in the attack was bought by mr crumbley four days before the attack.'s imperative we prevent this from happening again. no other parent or community should have to live through this nightmare. i have shared previously and i will be up that gun ownership is a right and with that right comes great responsibility. based on the information and evidence i have received today i am announcing charges against their shooter's parents. jennifer and james crombie. the charges are as follows. james crombie is charged with four compounds of involuntary manslaughter. jennifer is also charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter. let's cross to washington and speak to barbara plett usher this is quite an unusual approach. it's extremely rare for parents to be charged a mass shooting tragedies and in michigan there's not even a law that says that parents are required to keep guns out of reach of the children so it's a very unusual staff. of the children so it's a very unusualstaff. but, of the children so it's a very unusual staff. but, the prosecutor said ess
the semi—automatic handgun used in the attack was bought by mr crumbley four days before the attack.'s imperative we prevent this from happening again. no other parent or community should have to live through this nightmare. i have shared previously and i will be up that gun ownership is a right and with that right comes great responsibility. based on the information and evidence i have received today i am announcing charges against their shooter's parents. jennifer and james crombie. the...
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mrs. crumbley texted, "lol, i'm not mad, just next time don't get caught." and obviously, on this very tragic day on the 30th, they were called to the school and about their son's drawing, which literally depicted threats and acts of violence. and instead of disclosing to the school that he had full access to this weapon, they chose not to, chose not to take their son home, they chose not to tell anybody that he might be dangerous when it was clear and they had every likelihood that he was and instead they left. >> reporter: and instead they left. the prosecutor saying that these parents, had they acted, could have prevented this tragedy from happening. therefore, they are criminally negligent. we did hear from the lawyers representing jennifer and james crumbley, they insist that even though the crumbleys did not show up for their arraignment on friday, they were not, in fact, fleeing. take a listen to what one of their lawyers had to say. >> last night and throughout the day, we were in contact with our clients. they were scared, they were terrified, they
mrs. crumbley texted, "lol, i'm not mad, just next time don't get caught." and obviously, on this very tragic day on the 30th, they were called to the school and about their son's drawing, which literally depicted threats and acts of violence. and instead of disclosing to the school that he had full access to this weapon, they chose not to, chose not to take their son home, they chose not to tell anybody that he might be dangerous when it was clear and they had every likelihood that...
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mrs. crumbley. >> none of this should have happened.5 1/2-year-old should not be sitting in jail facing life in prison. and it could have been prevented. >> reporter: the prosecutor is still investigating the school's role in the events leading up to the shooting. >> i just think it's time we start -- stop talking about how terrible it is that we have school shootings, and look to see what we can do to actually prevent them from happening again. >> reporter: the michigan attorney general has also criticized the oxford school district's hiring of a third party to investigate the shootings and offered to help conduct a review of the events that day. meanwhile, a community is still grieving the death of four teenagers and rallying around those injured in the shootings. the detroit lions dedicating its first win of the season to all the victims. >> this game ball goes to the whole oxford community. all those who were affected. i want us to not forget these names. madisyn baldwin, hana st. juliana, justin shilling, tate myre. those names wil
mrs. crumbley. >> none of this should have happened.5 1/2-year-old should not be sitting in jail facing life in prison. and it could have been prevented. >> reporter: the prosecutor is still investigating the school's role in the events leading up to the shooting. >> i just think it's time we start -- stop talking about how terrible it is that we have school shootings, and look to see what we can do to actually prevent them from happening again. >> reporter: the michigan...
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mrs. crumbley. >> so suggest that anyone is using this incident to create press, there's a lot of attention here because four children were murdered. >> as the omicron variant is detected in more u.s. states, new travel rules set to take effect monday. >> we really don't want to ban people in countries. we want to keep cases out. and so buffing up testing and having testing done before travel and then again after travel makes a lot of sense. >>> the latest u.s. intel we've just heard, just reported saying there could be up to 175,000 russian troops there put in place for any plan to invade ukraine. >> i don't know what they're going to do, but i'm very, very concerned about, you know, their posture. >>> a rare blizzard warning has been issued for the big island of hawaii where more snow has fallen this winter season than in denver, colorado. ♪ >>> i'm phil mattingly in washington. pamela brown has the day off and you're in the "cnn newsroom." we start this hour with cnn. former cnn anchor chris cuomo formally terminated by this network effective immediately. that announcement coming from a
mrs. crumbley. >> so suggest that anyone is using this incident to create press, there's a lot of attention here because four children were murdered. >> as the omicron variant is detected in more u.s. states, new travel rules set to take effect monday. >> we really don't want to ban people in countries. we want to keep cases out. and so buffing up testing and having testing done before travel and then again after travel makes a lot of sense. >>> the latest u.s. intel...
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mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. >> reporter: 1:37, the dad calls 911 to report his gun missing and to say his son may be involved, but in the wake of the note just hours before the violence, officials thought there should have been more. >> the notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon that they gave him is unconscionable and i think it's criminal. >> of course, there are questions about whether school officials acted properly, but the school officials say anyone who saw the warning signs who could have stopped this should have done something. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> and let's discuss with former fbi deputy director, andrew mccabe. also cnn's senior law enforcement analyst. andrew, so many red flags that were just missed and it's heartbreaking. ethan's parents pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter charges this morning, but missed their initial arraignment yesterday. police say they were found hiding in a warehouse overnight after an hours long man hunt. they turned off their phones an
mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. >> reporter: 1:37, the dad calls 911 to report his gun missing and to say his son may be involved, but in the wake of the note just hours before the violence, officials thought there should have been more. >> the notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon that they gave him is unconscionable and i think it's criminal. >> of course, there are questions about...
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mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. >> reporter: 1:37 the dad calls 911 to report of the note just hours before the violence officials clearly thought there should have been more. >> the notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon that they gave him is unconscionable, and i think it's criminal. >> reporter: of course there are questions whether school officials acted properly. but the prosecutor says simply anyone who saw the warning signs who could have stopped this should have done something. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> so many disturbing allegations in that report. now, earlier i spoke with cnn legal analyst areva martin about just how rare it is for charges like this to be filed against parents, especially when it comes to school shootings. take a listen. >> we have not seen parents charged frequently in cases involving active shooters on school campuses. in fact, according to some research, there have only been four parents charged in similar-type cases. so it really is groundbreaking for this pro
mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. >> reporter: 1:37 the dad calls 911 to report of the note just hours before the violence officials clearly thought there should have been more. >> the notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon that they gave him is unconscionable, and i think it's criminal. >> reporter: of course there are questions whether school officials acted properly. but the...
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mrs. crumbley. >> none of this should have happened.uld not be sitting in jail facing life in prison. these children who were terrorized and killed and shot, none of it should have happened, and it could have been prevented. >> reporter: the prosecutor is still investigating the school's role in the events leading up to the shooting. >> no one is trying to take anyone's right to possess a weapon, but four kids were murdered, seven more were shot and hundreds and hundreds more, their lives will never be the same. so i just think it's time we start -- stop talking about hower toible it is we have school shootings and look to see what we can do to prevent them from happening again. >> reporter: meanwhile, a community still grieving the death of four teenagers and rallying around those injured in the shootings. the detroit lions dedicating its first win of the season to all the victims. >> this game ball goes to the whole oxford community. all those who were affected. >> reporter: the family of tate myre honored by the university of michiga
mrs. crumbley. >> none of this should have happened.uld not be sitting in jail facing life in prison. these children who were terrorized and killed and shot, none of it should have happened, and it could have been prevented. >> reporter: the prosecutor is still investigating the school's role in the events leading up to the shooting. >> no one is trying to take anyone's right to possess a weapon, but four kids were murdered, seven more were shot and hundreds and hundreds more,...
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mr. crumbley's parents in the next 24 hours.ecz is outfront. >> we have an active shooter incident. we do have confirmed injuries. >> reporter: new details, including some of the emergency dispatch calls from tuesday's school shooting in oxford, michigan. >> i've got one with a neck wound, one with a head wound. >> reporter: police saying today they are confident that the suspect acted alone. >> we have seen no evidence that there was anyone else involved in this situation with him or anything to follow on. >> reporter: the investigation now focuses on events leading up to the moment when 15-year-old ethan crumbley allegedly started shooting that day. >> on the day prior to the tragedy, a teacher in a classroom where he was a student saw and heard something that she felt was disturbing in terms of his behavior. >> reporter: in fact two separate teachers had reported disturbing behavior before the deadly shootings began. >> they had a counseling session about it with school officials. and a phone call was left with the parents. >
mr. crumbley's parents in the next 24 hours.ecz is outfront. >> we have an active shooter incident. we do have confirmed injuries. >> reporter: new details, including some of the emergency dispatch calls from tuesday's school shooting in oxford, michigan. >> i've got one with a neck wound, one with a head wound. >> reporter: police saying today they are confident that the suspect acted alone. >> we have seen no evidence that there was anyone else involved in this...
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mrs. crumbley. after this. >> reading the words "help me" with a gun, blood everywhere, this doesn't impact me as a prosecutor and a lawyer. it impacts me as a mother. the notion that a parent could read those records and know that their son had access to a deadly weapon, that they gave him is unconscionable. i think it's criminal. it is criminal. >> martha: we'll talk to oakland county sheriff mike bouchard on the possible man hunt for the parents that could now be underway and what the white house is saying that the pandemic is to blame for the crime and looting that we're seeing in big cities in america. >> when a huge group of criminals organizes themselves and they want to go loot a store, a nordstrom, home depot until the shelves are clean, you think that is because of the pandemic? >> i think a root cause in a lot of communities is the pandemic. yes. >> martha: tomi lahren and richard fowler next. people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes are waking up to what's possible... ...with rybels
mrs. crumbley. after this. >> reading the words "help me" with a gun, blood everywhere, this doesn't impact me as a prosecutor and a lawyer. it impacts me as a mother. the notion that a parent could read those records and know that their son had access to a deadly weapon, that they gave him is unconscionable. i think it's criminal. it is criminal. >> martha: we'll talk to oakland county sheriff mike bouchard on the possible man hunt for the parents that could now be...
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mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun.hink that is all i need to say about that. >> will the gunshot be liable if the new that they were purchasing for the 15-year-old. >> based on our review of the gun shop owner is not under investigation. >> was there any talk to reach out to the on-site officer with these concerns? >> whether they did or not? >> if there was talk to and why they did not if there was concern enough to bring the parents in. >> i don't know. i don't think we have at this point full statements that i reviewed. >> we have been here now for a few days and talk to law enforcement, there was a lot of anger with the school. i know it may not be a responsibility to address that, what is your response to that? >> i would be angry too. and i am. but that does not mean that there is a criminal culpability. but, yes, i would be angry, i would be angry, i am angry, i'm angry as a mother, as a prosecutor, as a person that lives in this county. i'm angry. there were a lot of things that could have been so simple to pre
mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun.hink that is all i need to say about that. >> will the gunshot be liable if the new that they were purchasing for the 15-year-old. >> based on our review of the gun shop owner is not under investigation. >> was there any talk to reach out to the on-site officer with these concerns? >> whether they did or not? >> if there was talk to and why they did not if there was concern enough to bring the parents in....
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mrs. crumbley was also contacted about that and there were found text messages she sent to her son in whichhe said lol, i'm not mad at you. you have to learn not to get caught. joe. >> heidi, thank you so much for your reporting. let's bring in katie phang, this is still a fast developing story. it's rare enough to see parents charged in a school shooting situation like this. what's your sense of new charges that could still come in the next few days? >> well, i think that as you say, because there's so much that's going on, because there's all this new information, for example, joe, we just found out yesterday late that ethan crumbley when he was confronted with the note, with the drawing, he actually told school officials that he was preparing a video game, that he was interested in becoming a video game developer and that's the reason he had those types of drawings. i don't know how credible that sounds. if you consider the totality of the circumstances, and that's what's really important. when you're a prosecutor and you're looking at the evidence, you're going to look at direct evidenc
mrs. crumbley was also contacted about that and there were found text messages she sent to her son in whichhe said lol, i'm not mad at you. you have to learn not to get caught. joe. >> heidi, thank you so much for your reporting. let's bring in katie phang, this is still a fast developing story. it's rare enough to see parents charged in a school shooting situation like this. what's your sense of new charges that could still come in the next few days? >> well, i think that as you...
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mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. >> reporter: 1:37, the dad calls 911 to report his gun missing and to say his son may be involved. but in the wake of the note just hours before the violence, officials clearly thought there should have been more. >> the notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon that they gave him is unconscionable, and i think it's criminal. >> reporter: of course there are questions about whether school officials acted properly, but the prosecutor says simply anyone who saw the warning signs who could have stopped this should have done something. tom foreman, cnn, washington. >> that is the background of this story. live again, shimon prokupecz is in detroit where we are awaiting a press conference from detroit police to tell us the details now that the parents of the school shooting suspect have now been arrested. you see the press conference is just about to get under way there. shimon, if you can hear me, at this point in time, i mean, again, authorities apparently a lot of authorit
mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. >> reporter: 1:37, the dad calls 911 to report his gun missing and to say his son may be involved. but in the wake of the note just hours before the violence, officials clearly thought there should have been more. >> the notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon that they gave him is unconscionable, and i think it's criminal. >> reporter: of course there...
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mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. i think that's all i need to say about that. >> did the gunshot be liable if they concede the weapon was purchased for a 15-year-old not for the father? >> based on what we reviewed the gun shop owner is not under investigation. >> do you know at any point during these meetings with the counselors and parents if there is any talks to reach out to the on-site officer with these concerns? >> whether they did or not. >> if there was talks, why they didn't, if they brought the parents in and have the meetings. >> i don't know. i don't think we have at this point full statements that i've reviewed. >> a lot of, you know, we've been here now a few days and talked to some law enforcement and sheriff's people and others. people are angry at the school. obviously there's issues with the parents, but there's a lot of anger with the school. i know it may not be yours responsibility to address it, but since you're the first person in all these days to talk about this, what is your response to tha
mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun. i think that's all i need to say about that. >> did the gunshot be liable if they concede the weapon was purchased for a 15-year-old not for the father? >> based on what we reviewed the gun shop owner is not under investigation. >> do you know at any point during these meetings with the counselors and parents if there is any talks to reach out to the on-site officer with these concerns? >> whether they did or...
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mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun.all i need to say about that. >> could the gunshots perhaps be liable if they saw that the gun was being purchased for 15-year-old, and not for father. >> based upon what we've reviewed, the gun shop owner is not under investigation. >> do you know if at any point there were any au actions to re out to the on-site sro officer with these concerns? >> whether they did or not? >> there was cause to, why they didn't? or to have these parents in. >> i don't know. i don't think we have at this point full statements that i've reviewed. >> a lot of -- we've been here now for a few days and talked to law enforcement and sheriff's people. and people are really angry at the school. obviously, there are issues with the parents. but there is a lot of anger with this school. i know may not be your responsibility to address it, but since you're the first person in all of these days to talk about this, what is your response to that? >> i would be angry too. and i am. but that doesn't mean that there's
mr. crumbley drove straight to his home to look for his gun.all i need to say about that. >> could the gunshots perhaps be liable if they saw that the gun was being purchased for 15-year-old, and not for father. >> based upon what we've reviewed, the gun shop owner is not under investigation. >> do you know if at any point there were any au actions to re out to the on-site sro officer with these concerns? >> whether they did or not? >> there was cause to, why they...
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mr. crumbley shaking his head right there. why don't you lay out the case against the parents?n this case there was such overwhelming evidence i do want to point out. these are merely allegations. they are innocent until proven guilty, and i am ethically bound only to release the facts that have already been made public and sworn to in open court. however, there is evidence to suggest they purchased that weapon for their 15-year-old, bragged about it online, thought this was some joyous occasion as a present. and in combination with nonsocial media posts, some social media posts, the gun was his, and he had free access to it, and then the signs there -- such warning signs. the day before about the ammunition, mom's lack of concern. in fact she seems to be encouraging that behavior and then, of course, that morning with the meeting where the drawing and the notes were found, it just goes beyond any sort of mere negligence or mistake. it's criminal. >> you said the gun was stored unlocked when you announced the charges last week. their defense attorney says it was locked. are you
mr. crumbley shaking his head right there. why don't you lay out the case against the parents?n this case there was such overwhelming evidence i do want to point out. these are merely allegations. they are innocent until proven guilty, and i am ethically bound only to release the facts that have already been made public and sworn to in open court. however, there is evidence to suggest they purchased that weapon for their 15-year-old, bragged about it online, thought this was some joyous...
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mrs. crumbley is not to possess or have firearms or dangerous weapons. shall not have any assaultive behavior toward anyone. must provide a release address to pretrial services. the defendant within 24 hours of release from the jail must submit to and pay for ebt or urinalsis. that would be at the direction of pts. the defendant ms. crumbley is to verify any employment status, and verify that in writing upon release from the oakland county jail. in the event that the defendant is able to post bond the court is going to require she have a gps tether. the gps tether must be installed upon release from the oakland county jail. she may be -- the gps tether will have the allowances that she could go to work, attend court hearings, medical appointments, and attorney meetings. she must provide work schedule, medical appointments, and any meetings to pts in advance. again, that must be installed at the jail before she leaves the jail. as it relates to james robert crumbley, the court is setting a $500,000 cash surety, no 10% bond. the defendant is not to use or
mrs. crumbley is not to possess or have firearms or dangerous weapons. shall not have any assaultive behavior toward anyone. must provide a release address to pretrial services. the defendant within 24 hours of release from the jail must submit to and pay for ebt or urinalsis. that would be at the direction of pts. the defendant ms. crumbley is to verify any employment status, and verify that in writing upon release from the oakland county jail. in the event that the defendant is able to post...
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mrs. crumbley, mom and dad. >> you've seen the drawings? >> i have. >> and they target individuals?id. it said "blood everywhere." there is a picture of a gun. there is a picture of a person sketched holding a gun in the air. there is a statement, "the world will be dead." there's drawings of bullets. you cannot read or look at that drawing without being concerned. and it wasn't just the drawing. it was a worksheet that was passed out at the beginning of the class and instead of completing the worksheet, those statements and drawings were on the review worksheet. >> i want to ask you about what happens now. you've taken a stand that a lot of prosecutors have not taken. you've marshalled the evidence that make it certainly, as you said, not only logical but well-founded. we are living through a year when school violence is at record levels. i believe 2021 has been the deadliest year since 1999. and we're also living in a heightened threat right there, right in michigan, there are threats today, there are schools closed. what are the stakes for you in getting this right, and what happ
mrs. crumbley, mom and dad. >> you've seen the drawings? >> i have. >> and they target individuals?id. it said "blood everywhere." there is a picture of a gun. there is a picture of a person sketched holding a gun in the air. there is a statement, "the world will be dead." there's drawings of bullets. you cannot read or look at that drawing without being concerned. and it wasn't just the drawing. it was a worksheet that was passed out at the beginning of...
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mr. and misses crumbley. >> tonight, new details emerging about the school's actions hours before the shootingreported a picture drawn but the alleged gunman, depicting a person appearing to be shot and disturbing phrases like, the thoughts won't stop, help me. the superintendent said the students at the drawing was part of a video he was designing. the suspect stayed with counselors for an hour and a half, even doing homework, and at no time did the counselors believe this student might harm others based on his demeanor, which appeared calm. he was eventually allowed to return to class because he had no prior disciplinary infractions, and his parents refused to take him home. >the superintendent is now calling for a third-party investigation into what happened here. he says this community and these families deserve a transparent accounting of what happened. the michigan attorney general is offering to conduct the investigation if the school chooses. they want to make sure it never happens again. trevor ault, abc news, oakland county, michigan. dion: federal investigators spent the day looking
mr. and misses crumbley. >> tonight, new details emerging about the school's actions hours before the shootingreported a picture drawn but the alleged gunman, depicting a person appearing to be shot and disturbing phrases like, the thoughts won't stop, help me. the superintendent said the students at the drawing was part of a video he was designing. the suspect stayed with counselors for an hour and a half, even doing homework, and at no time did the counselors believe this student might...
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crumbley shot and killed four of his classmates, senate republicans were speaking on the senate floor about abortion. our next democratic senator of philadelphia chris murphy took to the senate floor and said this. >> mrepublican colleagues have very strong views on issues related to abortion. but he listened to my republican colleagues come down here one after another today and talk about the sanctity of life. at the very moment that moms and dads in michigan were being told that their kids weren't coming home because they were shot at school due to a country that has accepted gun violence due to republicans' fealty to the gun lobby. do not lecture us about the sanctity, the importance of life, when 100 people every single day are losing their lives to guns. when kids go to school fearful they won't return home because a classmate will turn a gun on them, when it is in our control whether this happens. you care about life? then get these dangerous, military style weapons off the streets out of our schools. you care about life? make sure that criminals don't get guns by making sure that everybody goes through a background check in this country. we're not unlucky. this is purposeful. this is a choice m
crumbley shot and killed four of his classmates, senate republicans were speaking on the senate floor about abortion. our next democratic senator of philadelphia chris murphy took to the senate floor and said this. >> mrepublican colleagues have very strong views on issues related to abortion. but he listened to my republican colleagues come down here one after another today and talk about the sanctity of life. at the very moment that moms and dads in michigan were being told that their...