>>supervisor campos: mrs. donovn is on the committee right now? in the past but this would be a new exposure for her. i don't know if the other candidates have been involved but it would be a wonderful opportunity. supervisor kim: thank you for being here. do you know when the other board seat expires? >> you had previously appointed larry lieberman and that expires on january 12, 2013. supervisor farrell: the controllers peck -- that has to be someone with a heavier financial background? could you say of one of the two applicants today had that qualification? >> i could not, but the controller has to have that specific background in experience in auditing and product -- project finance. >supervisor kim: are there any further questions? we often find ourselves in a situation where we have more than one qualified applicant for this seat. i am incredibly impressed by both candidates because water is not necessarily an issue the average citizen understands very well so i'm impressed we have such highly qualified candidates who care about the system a