thank you so much. >> mrs. florez you mentioned the number of latino students particularly is going up -- our population is growing so fast and quickly, by very nature, you see more latinos in the pipeline. but that is not necessarily attributable to any specific programs that are preparing them. the population is bubbling up, it is going to reflect itself in those statistics. is that right? mr. florez: my main point is not to reach for success without understanding that it may just be demography and not policy. all of those statistics are important -- demography is very important. don't make conclusions based on demography and the actual success. >> one of our speakers was making that same point. mrs. florez: it is a common misconception. >> dr. carr, your statistics show among the various populations continue to do better in those areas of measurement. the commissioner yesterday very eloquently distinguished between various subgroups of asians, and we had testimony from the south asian immunity which is substantiall