mr. reagan invited gorbachev to stroll the garden to the pool house where they sat alone before a fire. agan talk without notes, not about arms control but about reducing the level of fear and misunderstanding between the two nations. >> the main thing is they met each other as human beings, reagan in particular concentrated his attention on gorbachev as a person. he spent more time studying gorbachev than he did the esoteric things having to do with arms control. >> it is understood the president tried to dispel his negative image of the u.s. gorbachev wouldn't budge but wasn't as combative as he was with other american officials recently. >> is it a good sign? >> of course. >> i would think so. >> i was at lunch when ronald reagan came out of the first meeting with gorbachev and he said this is a new type of soviet leader. >> the president announced gorbachev will visit the u.s. next year and they agreed to accelerate arms talks. the soviet leader was more negative. >> the most important problem concerning the arms race and increasing hopes of peace, we didn't succeed in reaching at th

mr. gorbachev, open this gate. mr. all. >> the eighties next on cnn. >>> the only morality they'll recognize is what will further their cause. they reserve under themselves the right to commit any crime, to lie, to cheat. >> the russians are gearing up for war. >> the senate approved $136.5 billion defense budget. >> the largest anti-nuclear protest in u.s. history. >> president reagan is more eager to meet with new leader of the soviet union. >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall.

mr. gorbachev, tear down this -- >> -- place. >> tear down this -- >> i don't know. >> wall. >> mr. r down this wall. >> give me a pound. excellent. who's this? >> i have no idea. >> i wish i didn't know who he was either. >> your ancestor? you kind of look alied. >> his mouth looks familiar, but i don't know. >> jimmy -- >> -- buffett. ♪ wasting away again in margaritaville ♪ >> jimmy. >> not hendrix. >> ca. >> i don't know. >> jimmy carter. big hostage crisis with what country during his administration? >> iraq? no. afghanistan. >> are those countries? >> i don't know. >> egypt. >> russia. >> no. >> berlin. >> berlin's not a country. >> irania. >> can i tap out? is there a buzzer? >> who's this guy? >> i'm not sure. >> jimmy carter. >> you just answered about carter. >> nixon. >> no. >> george bush? >> george bush. >> i was going to say george clooney, but he's not a president. >> he had a famous saying, read my lips. no new -- >> -- friends. >> no new laws? >> no new changes? >> jobs. >> the president ran on no new jobs? that kind of sounds like obama. >> no new taxes? >> yes. >>

mrs. gorbachev not in the place where she's supposed to be. she's in the driveway. and as we pull in, the car, she's standing right at nancy reagan's door. she's wearing a white blouse and black tie like this. and i thought to myself, just nancy reagan and myself in the backseat. i thought, what is she doing? and so, before -- this was an error i'm sure -- an unforced error. i'm sure some secret service agents were fired over this. but, for some reason the lead agent unlocks the car door, she yanks the door open and grabs nancy reagan and races her into the house, into the compound. and the lead secret service agent and i, who were supposed to be in there with her. the door slams shut like that and we're left outside. all we can think about is, of course, we're going to lose our jobs. how are we going to explain this to the white house press corps and this story would dominate what good the president was going to achieve on his side with gorbachev. it would have, believe me. so, in what seemed like an eternity, pounding on the door, let us in. no, we couldn't gain a

mrs. gorbachev spent all that time lecturing her. >> before he goes as a parting gift, since this lecture had much to do with leadership, it's appropriate to give mr. rosebush a leather bound copy of one of president nixon's 10 books, "leaders." it just happens to be available for purchase in the museum store. you can buy it there. thank you very much. we'll see you on memorial day. tonight's featured speakers including president barack obama and vice president joe biden. democratic vice presidential nominee senator tim kaine will also address the convention. chelsea clnlt introduces her mother before she accepts the nomination as president of the united states. the presidential convention on c-span, c-span radio app and c-span.org. >> next from the presidency we'll hear from author gene koppelson about dwight eisenhower and ronald reagan and the role played by the revolution in the 1960s. kopels ochlt n copy of 1968 dress rehearsal, ike, the discovery institute in seattle hosted this hour and 10 minute program. rehearsal, ike, the dis institute in seattle hosted this hour and 10 minute pr

mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall." well, those were the six most iconic words that were almost not spoken. what happened? so one of the brilliant young speechwriters worked with ken went to germany and he did what we call today focus groups. he talked to the german people in small groups. he said the american president is coming here. what do you think he should say? we think we should call on gorbachev to tear down the wall. he goes to the speechwriting staff and they love it. well, this is vintage reagan. he has the credibility to say it. they put it in the speech draft. reagan loves it. the speech goes around to the national security council, the defense department, the state department. and every single one the part is whited out. reagan puts it back in. the speech goes around again, whited out again. comes back a third time, even his own chief of staff and his own personal staff whites it out. so he gets to the iconic brandenburg gate. gets out of an armored van that day, it wasn't a limousine. he says to his pers

mr. gorbachev, tear down that wall, and politicians were not always consistent. >> there not? [laughter] >> this was strictly in line with his indignation of a wall preventing people, a population that wanted to cross the border from doing so. talking about if we had to have all, make sure they were consistent. -- major there were big enough. i never thought about those two analogies. >> since you are talking about immigration of women, can you comment on the current numbers and some people say flaws of women and children who were crossing the border for the northern triangle right now? >> sure. it is interesting to use that word. my most recent article is coming out any day now hot off the presses. it talks about women and children and a particular have a government puts mothers and children in jail. immigrants in jail. and sort of this gender perspective of women. what i talk about, and i'm not sure there is a particular issue -- let me talk about what i talk about specifically. how our rhetoric of immigration has changed so profoundly in the last 30 years. such that while w

mr. gorbachev, release naked photos of walter mondale." (cheers and applause) that's how he won in 1984! (cheers and applause) a lot of people forget that part of the speech. now, encouraging a hostile foreign government to influence our elections is an unorthodox campaign strategy known in political circles as "treason." (laughter) (applause) so with criticism mounting, trump did something even crazier than making a plea to russian hackers-- he took it back. >> the clinton campaign said, "this is a national security the idea that you would have any american calling for a foreign power to commit espionage in the united states for the purposes of somehow changing an election, we're now in national security space. your reaction in >> you have to be kidding. and when i'm being sarcastic with something... >> are you being sarcastic? >> of course i'm being sarcastic. >> stephen: sarcasm! he was being sarcastic! of course! now everything he says makes sense! (cheers and applause) , really going to build a wall on the border, and, yeah, mexico wi

mr. gorbachev tear down this law. now it seems that trump is calling on the russian leader to carry out cyber attacks on his opponent for president of the united states. as you recall, this amazing interview that trump gave last fall to morning joe, where he was actually asked, what about the fact that putin kills his political opponents and journalists, are you troubled by that? and trump's response was, oh, well, we kill people too. it's staggering to me, because this is exactlyhe kind of moral relativism that ronald reagan and other republicans have been decrying for decades, this is the world view of the san francisco democrats, the people that jean kirkpatrick was denouncing in 1984 who blame america first, it turns out that it's actually donald trump who blames america first and he's taken control of the republican party and all these republican politicians like newt gingrich who have called for the expansion of nato over the years who have called for opposition of putin. it's a shattering and deeply depressing

mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> this is entitled rock helps tear down the berlin wall. >> rock andhair 'tis from t artists from the u.s. and germany played, springsteen played at the wall. these were symbols of the west. they weren't playing mozart. they were playing rock and roll music. >> there were songs associated with september 11th and moments you come back to when you think about the musicians from that time and the music they were making. >> music is often the place people go to. after 9/11, alan jackson, that iconic song he delivered was so important to the country. you had bono performing, wearing patriotic outfits. >> this is an amazing collection you have here. >> well, it's a great museum, because everywhere you turn, you see songs that remind you of moments in your life. music really does connect all of us. >> sure does. what a great place. you have to check it out, next time you're in cleveland. a nice opportunity for us to do that the other day. so back to politics now, as hillary clinton and donald trump speak out about what we saw yesterday, a horrific shooting th

mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. what happened? one of the brilliant, young speechwriters went to germany and did what we call today focus groups. he talked to the people and small groups and set the president is coming. what do you think you should say? they said, he should call on gorbachev to tear down the wall. they loved it. they said it was vintage reagan. he had the credibility to say it. reagan loves it. and the speech goes around to the state department and every single speech is whited out. said, back to reagan, he what happens to it? it came back again. even his own chief of staff and on personal staff whites it out? he gets to that iconic brandenburg gate out of an armored van, not the limousine, and he says to his personal aide , jim cohen, he says some of the boys at the state department will not like this? here is reagan listening to his own heart? to his own advice? not only does he say those six iconic words, but read the rest of his speech? because reagan talks about his opposition to any walls that would separate

mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall." that's not when it happened. it was may 15, 1967, during an internationally televised debate with robert kennedy about vietnam. there was a question at the end that ronald reagan answered and publicly on may 15th, '67, called to tear down the berlin wall. and he did that several more times during his first campaign for the presidency. so thank you. >> i have one more most important question. how do our guests and viewing audience get a copy of your book? >> the easiest way is on amazon and i hope you will go ahead and purchase it. it is available, it is an on-demand publisher, meaning it takes about two weeks to ship. thank you very much in advance and if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to e-mail me. i'd love to chat after you read it. >> thank you, gene. thank you again for being here. if you're interested in more information about discovery institute, you can visit our website, www.discovery.org. we'll have a link to this event on the site soon. thank you. appreciate it. >>> c-span is live today a

mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. now, it's important to note that when reagan left office, the wall was still securely standing. and it wasn't until the end of 1989 that the wall, metaphorically, was breached. but it is worth note, and this is where i think reagan's influence was at least as great as putting the spending pressure on the russians. so if when people who talked to the folks who actually did bring down the wall, those east germans who demanded an opening of the gates, the ones who actually put their lives on the line, asked about this afterwards, you know, they said that they thought in some cases almost literally had heard but certainly metaphorically had heard reagan say tear down this wall. and they knew that they had a sponsor on the other side of the wall. richard nixon didn't say that, jimmy carter didn't say that, so they knew they had moral support from the other side, and that meant a whole lot to them. it meant a lot to the folks in poland, in east germany, to the folks in the soviet union. i'd

mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall.d roll -- >> this came into light with the fall of berlin wall. rock and roll artists from the england and germany performed at wall before it came down. david bowie played at the wool. you rythmics played at wall. springsteen played on the other side of the wall. they were symbols of west. when the wall was being torn down, they weren't playing mozart, they were playing rock and roll music. martha: there are moments you come back to when you think about musicians at that time and music they were making. >> music is often a place we go go to after 9/11, alan jackson the iconic song he delivered was so important to the country. bono at the super bowl after 9/11, wearing patriotic outfits. martha: this is amazing collection. >> everywhere you turn you see moments that remind you of your life. music does really connect all of us. martha: it's a great place. bill: yeah. martha: it is just so much history there. you walk into different rooms and push the button and hear music and learn more

mr. gorbachev and i both agree on the desirability of freer and more extensive personal contact between the united states. >> we began to realize that the best way to get a message to a foreign leader was to have the president go in the rose garden and make a statement. because everybody was watching cnn. >> cnn was a breakthrough. it changed the whole world. >> it changed quickly. the network news business. that business that we weren't the only ones. and it was hard. it's hard to be on the top little perch and have to come down off it. >> a special segment tonight, the network news. the first in a two-part series on the profound changes taking place in television news. changes being brought about by business, competition and technology. >> there were a variety of reasons why people who worked at the broadcast networks were freaked out in 1980s. one of them was cnn. and the rise of cable. another was being taken over by foreign entities in corporate america. >> new owners spend billions buying the networks recently, and all of them want their money's worth. >> people began to find out that

mr. gorbach gorbachev, i would like you to tear down the wall, but germany is behind on the nato deal to leave it up a while. >> it was very surprising to most of us. you can read the transcript and see the extended remarks. it will be interesting to see whether he gets to any of this in his remarks tonight. we've seen throughout this campaign dichotomy between where some advisers hope trump to go and where trump is. i think this is just a fundamental -- this is his view. he does have -- he has been on two sides of a number of issues, but there are certain focal points over 30 years where he has at a base level been fairly consistent and that the u.s. is being treated unfairly in some way or another, has been one of them since he kicked off his art of the deal tour in 1987. this is in keeping with that, but it is very, very different. >> if you're a foreign policy conservative, if you're an internationalist, if you're a hawk and you are scared of an emboldened putin in moscow, the notion of the republican nominee being much more of a nationalist than a conservative is deeply concerning.