mrs. judy scott whose son was killed in north charleston, walter scott. she was not looking for revenge. as a matter of fact, on the first day, she said, i forgive the officer. she did not speak about the need for justice in her initial comments. she allowed the system to work that out. what she simply said to me was this -- i want to make sure i really want to make sure that mothers do not have to bury their sons. thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you very much, senator scott. thank you. our second panel. come forward, please. al do you want to ask -- okay. he can take my turn if he needs to. >> thank you, all, could you please stand and raise your right hand? do you solemnly swear the testimony is the truth, nothing but the truth so help you god? our panel consists of mr. peter weir, who is the district attorney for the first judicial district of the state of colorado from golden, colorado. lindsey miller, senior research associate police executive research forum washington, d.c. president and ceo of the conference on civil rights and human rights, washington, d.c. and jarrod brudler,