mrs. kennedy and me". >> clint hill, author of "mrs. kennedy and me". what would be the difference between then and today? how would you do things differently? >> i have -- back then there were only to assign to mrs. kennedy and today there more than two. quite a few more. i do not know the exact order. that is benefici. there are female agents available. we did not have that luxury in 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963. that makes a great deal of difference. no matter where she went, it drew a crowd and i caused a problem. we managed to do with that. and handle things the best we could. >> you have a story in your book about the main -- a man named roddy mims. >> he was a photographer in washington, d.c.. somewhat of harassment to me and others. on one occasion he did something i was very upset about. i had arranged for mrs. kennedy to arrive in washington on the military flight which is unusual for her. but to do so quietly. a separate section at the national airport. we had arranged for the white house cars to be situated outside the fence, awaiting our arrival.

mrs. kennedy got on until she got off. it was about 10 days, i believe, almost. >> and why was she there? >> in august of 1963, she gave birth to a little boy, patrick bouvier kennedy, in massachusetts. and two days later, young patrick died, and mrs. kennedy became very depressed. and her sister lee flew in from london to be with her. lee and her husband, the prince radziwill, happened to be friends with onassis, and onassis had offered her yacht, made it available if she wanted to use it for mrs. kennedy's use, and they decided it would be a good idea for her to get away for a while and that yacht would make an excellent platform to just to tour the area and get away from everything. and president kennedy wanted her to do it. members of the staff were very concerned about her doing this, because they had a political year coming up, 1964, they were concerned about how it would look. but the president insisted that she be permitted to do it, and so we went aboard, toured the greek islands, went up into turkey, came back out

mr. kennedy, dr. lu chain coe was here in march, and she said, quote, it's not clear the tsunami debris is going to have a devastating impact by any stretch of the imagination. is that noaa's view? is that still noaa's view? >> i think the jury's still out. we have been doing a tremendous amount of work trying to locate any of the debris that would be in the ocean in where we have projected -- modeling has projected that that debris would be. in my testimony, i mention that we've been every possible venue to try and find d debris including a lot of looking with high-resolution satellite imagery in quad ranlt where is the models say the debris should be. we haven't been able to find any debris. that's not to say it's not there. it's not to say we're not still looking. but i think the concern is not overreacting right now. we know that there are place where is there's more debris ashore. we've seen that in alaska. but we've been out there with our partners trying to identify that debris specifically fro

mrs. kennedy and whoever was firing at them. >> when you went back, 1990. i've been there. it's so strange to see the pictures. it didn't look like a hard shot. >> it wasn't. you look from the window where the firing took place to the impact point on the street, it's not very far at all. >> he was trained marksman from the marines. >> correct. he had all the advantages that day. we didn't have any. he was to our rear to the back. we didn't have chance to get to him. >> today, anywhere near the white house, anywhere near the president now we saw with the vice president coming to our studio today, there's so much secret service now and so much surveillance. you couldn't stick a rifle barrel out the window. >> i don't think he stuck it out the window. he was inside the window with the barrel on the window. >> could he do that today? >> perhaps. more than likely wouldn't do any good because the president would be in fally armored car. no open cars. >> a lot of people wondered about if there had been the bubble top. it was still not

mrs. kennedy will follow it and then he, lyndon johnson, and lady bird will follow it. so that the nation will in a sense see a symbol of continuity. that's not really what happens. because bobby kennedy, the minute the steps are put next to the plane, runs up the plane and pushes past johnson without acknowledging him and basically organizes things in a different way so that johnson is behind the group of secret service men. the casket comes off and the image that you know and i know, we all know, we see the lift coming down and first it looked... you see this long thing in front then you realize it's the casket. first is mrs. kennedy with her skirt covered with blood. the lift comes down, the coffin comes down and there's no steps back at the plane and lyndon johnson is left in the plane. and the casket is loaded into an ambulance. the ambulance drives... heads off for bethesda and the autopsy and johnson is still and thing there. >> rose: does he go home at night? >> well, first... >> he gives orders on the plane. one of them is have helicopter there is to take him to

mr. kennedy, noaa is the lead agency for these activities for marine debris. noaa's marine debris program leads this effort and noaa chairs the marine debris coordinating committee. the coast guard supports noaa by participating as a member of that committee. the marine debris research prevention reduction act of 2006 identifies the coast guard as an agency that noaa should coordinate with to address marine debris issues. to date, the coast guard has been fully engaged with noaa in support of marine debris monitoring and tracking to ensure the safe navigation of shipping and to protect the marine environment. coast guard actions in support of noaa depend on the type of debris. the coast guard is the federal on-site coordinator for the coastal zone with lead removal actions under the national contingency plan for any debris that poses a threat via potential oil or hazardous substance to the environment. the coast guard may also develop and issue broadcast notice to mariners and advise vessel traffic of potential hazards to navigation. the service also has the a

mr. kennedy. the national press club hosted this one-hour event. >> welcome to the national press club. rick dunham, the washington bureau chief for hearst newspapers and "the houston chronicle," and in my extracurricular life i'm president of the national press club journalism institute which is the educational and charitable arm of the national press club that handles everything from the cutting edge journalism training to book racks and other book events at the national press club. this event is among other things a fund-raiser for the national press club journalism institute and the good programs we do so that every book you buy, not only will benefit the authors as it should but will benefit the national press club journalism institute. so if you haven't already bought the book, i would recommend it. and that's the end of my ad there. i want to briefly introduce our guests to set the stage and then we have a special guest, the daughter of the man we will be talking about who will introduce our discussion. first up, i actually do have one short ad for the upcoming programs that we w

mrs. kennedy and me." clint, is why you waited to write this incredible guess the question you wait? >> i vowed i would never write or contribute to a book of any kind. i met lisa, and i began to trust her. and she convinced me my story should be documented, and i finally agreed and that is what we decided to do. >> you heard the shots. and you raced to the car, what happened then. >> i raced to the car, but just before i got there, the third shot was fired. i didn't hear the second shot because i was running. the third hit the president in the head, and it was a tremendous wound, calling blood and brain matter to come out in the car. about that time mrs. kennedy came up towards the trunk of the car. i pushed her back into the seat, and the president's body fell into her lap. >> the car was continuously moving. it starting to accelerate. i slipped and i had to run a couple extra stepped. i want today form a shield because we had no idea how many shots would be fired and what was going on. >> when you went

mr. kennedy, also, thank you. i know you probably feel like you've been on the hot seat, and we hope you did feel that way. [laughter] so, you know, a lot of concern. i know you care because you were one of the originators of the debris program within noaa, and i know you understand it and you probably, my guess is -- i'll put words in your mouth without saying them -- i'm sure you would like more resources. there's a huge demand, and this may be an opportunity to highlight what the needs are for the component of what you're doing within noaa. second, you made a comment i want to take you up on that offer, and that is an issue of the low, the medium, the high-risk analysis. you know, this is probably every quarter i'm probably asked this same question until we get an answer. my hope is that's not at a point where we're looking at these photos enlarged because the amount of stuff has really piled up. so i hope that you can get the administration to respond on that issue. and then the last is, um, recognizing that n

mrs. kennedy. they say well she won't leave without her husband's body. will go to the plane but i won't leave until she and the coffin are aboard. >> jon: and he makes a decision to have her next to him. >> yes. >> as he is sworn in as a show of a peaceful transfer. but everything is done with purpose. >> with johnson everything has a political purpose. and usually a political genius and something personal in it you know, his refusing to leave dallas without jackie kennedy there is a political purpose. but there isas, you could say a humanitarian purpose. i'm not leaving her behind in dallas. >> jon: his relationship with bobby afterwards is fascinating. >> these are two men, as a historian, you hate to use the word "hate" because it is so strong. but hate isn't too strong to describe bobby kennedy and lyndon johnson. when johnson is vice president, robert kennedy seldom invites him, he had great parties at hickory hill. when johnson is invited he's put at what robert kennedy's wife ethyl calls the loser's table. and johnson know os it's the loser's tabl

mr. kennedy and instead said as an institution, were they concerned about do you feel as though they were concerned about their own reputation as an institution or was it strictly just a sense that if there is a journalist code about all being on the same page? >> in this case they were subject to a punishment and the credentials for all of ap for a brief period of time were yanked for the european theater that would have been disastrous. that threat was real and it seemed to me in this stream of what became the anti-kennedy story that became the boat by which management could drive towards the ownership side of the kennedy position and we have to side with management that jumped out in front of attacking kennedy in the name of making sure we have access to that. the credentials were restored very quickly for ap. they were not restored for ed kennedy. ed kennedy also faced court-martial. the correspond epts were given military rank and they were subjected to the military code. that was another big concern in this case. >> that has been one of the criticisms and most recently in a place th

mr. kennedy, in your testimony that with respect to contingency planning, is well underway in hawaii and washington, that the process is yet to start in oregon and california and alaska. how long does that process in planning require zm. >> what it requires is a complete willingness of all of the appropriate parties. you've got to have everybody to want to be at the table to actually put the workshop together and develop it. so there have been various states of interest and that's why these others are still evolving. what we have been able to do is kind of develop now a pretty standard protocall for the basis. it includes everything from g getting together to talk about within a region, who are the federal and state and local entities that need to be engaged. who would you call if you started to have debris. how are we going to look and make sure we have radiation under control. if there's hazmat, how are we going to get the state and folks. all of that is part of a package. is. >> is there recognition in these states across the board about the potential, the magnitude of this problem? >

mrs. kennedy's comfort, but at least i can help her convenience, so after that the questions stopped. but -- mrs. johnson was just an adventurist. when you -- when you came in to see her, she always wanted to know what you were doing. what was new with you, what was the latest. and when she traveled, she always had these had these little spiral notebooks like this, and she kept them in her purse with a ballpoint pen, and she would keep notes about where she was going and what she was seeing. and she took shorthand, and fortunately i read shorthand, not as neatly as she did, so i could read some of the notes that she had. but she -- we had flown -- when lbj was vice president, we had flown from the u.s. to the mediterranean, had flown the length of the mediterranean and landed in beirut and had just walked into the hotel room, which was supposed to be a rest stop before they went to iran and turkey and italy and lebanon, of course. and mrs. johnson's on the phone, so i come into the room. she said can you get a car and let's go to bombeck. i said what's bombeck. i said i thought this wa

mr. kennedy, also thank you. i know you probably feel like you've been on the hot seat. we hope you did feel that way. so, you know, there's a lot of concern. i know you care because you were one of the originators of the debris program within noaa and i know you understand it and you probably -- my guess is -- i'll put words in your mouth without yao saying them, but i'm sure you would like more resources to do more and there were more opportunities. there's a huge demand, and this may be an opportunity to highlight what the needs are for the component of what you're doing within noaa. second, you made a comment, and i want to take you up on that offer, and that is the issue of the low, the medium, the high risk analysis. you know, this is -- probably every quarter i'm probably going to ask the same question until we get an answer. my hope is that's not at a point where we're looking at these photos enlarged because the amount of stuff has really piled up. soy hope you can get the administration to respond on that issue. and then the last is recognizing that noaa has a

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mrs. kennedy never did that? yourself maybe i've gone too far. >> it's not doubts, it's just really wondering, not too many people have done what i've done. >> i think we know what michelle obama is up to and what politics is up to in general and people like the first lady go on those kind of shows, they want to appeal to the voter who's not going to pay that much attention to this kind of political tv, but is checking in with your tv, with barbara's tv there with "the view" that kind of television, that's where to find that voter now who's not going to concentrate until you get down to october, right? >> i think bill clinton kind of rewrote the playbook when he played the saxophone on late night tv. but i want michelle obama in my bravo clubhouse. she's the realist housewife of them all, she's the first housewife. >> andy hold it, i don't think that's the way to get michelle obama, to compare her to any real housewives of yours. i have needed it as a complement. >> i think that what -- i think what's great about

the moment later another kennedy aide comes into the room and says to johnson, mr. president.e has ever called him mr. president. so you say for 40 minutes the man who actually probably is already president of the united states is standing there. he stands almost motionless, standing against this wall. lady bird is sitting beside him. no one knows what he is thinking, but when he is addressed as mr. president, he starts immediately giving decisive orders. >> and he orchestrates the famous photograph that we have all seen because he wants jackie kennedy to be on that plane flying back to washington. he wants the world to see that this was a peaceful transfer of power, but with the consent and in a sense the buy-in of the kennedys. >> he takes steps to do that. you also have to say, however, with lyndon johnson nothing is simple. you have to say there is another motive that he says is the motive. i'm not leaving her. they tell him -- the secret service says we're getting ow the plane and we're taking off immediately for washington because at the white house we can make secure. j