mrs. lichter, go ahead. >> senator, thank you. look at it my way, first. then you can look tat a better way. [laughter] can you understand the skepticism? judge -- court only to find they didn't work as advertised? >> right. in order to avoid that sense of disenchant wment the new method going forward, i would like to draw your attention to what the real cause is of the overstay or the illegal entry. it is not for lack of enforcement. it is not for lack of attracting system. it's for lack of a lawful path where people who wish to change from their nonimmigrant stay us extend. -- >> when you come in on a thirty day visa, you don't know who the visa expire and it's time to go home. you're saying it's for lack of path to scoich. i didn't say lack of path to citizenship. >> it was lack of legal immigration options. >> i have have legal immigration -- we natural lose as million as people in a year. we have a path for people to function through the legal system. you're telling me some people have no option to overstay the visa and melt to the great american land

mrs. lichter. you have spokenning spokenning with marguia. the earned path to citizenship and the possible benefit to our economy. having 11 million people be able to fully participate our economy. if you would talk about that and about this bill is a compromise. can you help us understand what would happen on the fronts if the hurdle to earn legal status are too high and for a significant number of the currently here undocumented status. what are the consequences? >> sure. and i'll , you know, just reintegrate the. on friday the committee heard there would be an overall if net gain to our by moving forward with a comprehensive immigration reform bill to the tune of 1.5 trillion over a decade. we know that in addition that there would be billions added in term of earned wages by many. we see this as a net gain. i will tell you that as we look at the legalization program right now and again, we see the path to citizenship and legalization that has been put forward there. i think for us, the fact we can build on that as a way to move forward is