five minutes later mrs. lopez e- mails mrs. madison and says, i am so sorry.that jog your recollection about what your phone call was about? >> no. >> the new draft that e-mailed? >> no, i did not -- did you drive that e-mailed? >> no, i did not. >> at 6:41, you call miss lopez again, and the call lasts five minutes, so maybe until 6:46, and half an hour later, ms. lopez e-mailed miss williams, and she said, all i told you today was confidential. it was too dramatic. with anything about that 7:13 p.m. e-mail the subject of the phone call? >> it was not. >> the remember what that phone call was about? >> no, i do not. >> at 7:23, and you call ms. lopez, but i am assuming that is a missed connection or maybe a message. >> a drop call maybe. >> she calls you back, and a call last for 11 minutes. do you know what that call is about thomas -- what that call is about? >> i do not. >> that call ends at 7:39 and at 7:47 miss lopez e-mails kellie williams and says, do not talk to the police if they ask you. as bad jog your recollection of any portion of the phone call

mrs. lopez thosdoes prove she hd stated all of this, i would like to be able to revisit this after her testimony. >> in other words, in order to be able to establish foundation for her knowledge of these matters. it is the direct, -- it is redirect, so we will see. the objection will be sustained starting with line 5. her words through the custody of theo on line 16. otherwise, overruled. i do not think there are any other objections to ms.7"ntn4 f i understand the stipulations correctly. >> there is one. >> did i miss one? >> 28. qn7fxnwz>> sorry, i did miss ab. >> this is a different issue. >> we do believe that one phrase can go out. the reason i think the remainder of this paragraph should be admitted is because the opinion of the domestic violence experts is that sheriff mirkarimi has the characteristics of an unreformed adapter error -- batterer. i have a pretty good sense to the commission is going to accept a majority of it, and if it does, it would support the testimony. >> given ther

>> that is correct. >> after that text, there is a series of back-and-forth between you and mrs. lopezt 5:57, you talked to ms. lopez again for seven-. you recommend -- to you recollect now the purpose of that call? >> i do not. Ñ she suggested calling mike hennessey? >> she did not. >> in the middle of that phone t a response, i cannot and neither can he. you have to reject the actions. we both do. i cannot involve new people. did she tell you about getting that text? . >> the you know what it meant -- did you know what it meant? >> that is speculation. >> i am asking. >> i did not. >> ok, so that comes in at 5:51. no, that is wrong. i apologize. that comes in at 6:01 in the middle of a phone call you are having with lopez the glass until 6:00 for -- that lasts until 6:04, so you hang up and then call sheriff mirkarimi. you know what that is about? >> i do not recall. eheriff, and says, do not write any other thing. answer the call. she has advised now. you know what that is about? >> i do not know what that is about. >> what advice did you have? >> the only advice i had is that they

reporter: you have won the most votes but it's not a mandate and you have one of your opponents, mr. lopez obrador, who says he will contest the results of the election. >> ( translated ): almost 50 million mexicans participated in this election. three million observers watched the election process. the main threat to democracy is disenchantment from lack of results. >> reporter: right now the people of mexico are very disenchanted. reversing that will be his greatest challenge. bill whitaker, cbs news, mexico city. >> glor: president obama marked independence day by calling for immigration reform. at the white house, mr. obama attended a swearing-in ceremony for 25 naturalized citizens. all u.s. service members. immigration, the president said, makes america stronger. >> as another step forward, we're lifting the shadow of deportation from deserving young people who were brought to this country as children. it's why we still need a dream act to keep talented young people who want to contribute to our society, serve our country. it's why we need-- why america's success demands-- comprehens

the sport because he believed it would teach him self confidence and bill character little did mr hooley lopez know what he had started when i was twenty three years old i decided to open a store because that's actually the passion that i have. and that i have and love teaching and it's something that i want and that i want to give back the most successful sibling is without a doubt stephen. the five time world champion and two times olympic gold when i was told many times he should have time while on top but even after only taking bronze at the two thousand and eight beijing olympics he's still motivated as ever if i feel. now the way i do i would have to say i'll go on until i can't kick anymore until i don't want to anymore and the great thing is i have a brother who is very objective and he'll tell me you know stephen you don't have any more you should just stop but even if stephen decides to retire from the sport there's still plenty of future hope for the lupus family the legacy continues because my niece and nephews are training taekwondo and if they want to be world champions one day i

mr. keith? >> this is actually relevant to show ms. lopez's state of mind and to show her hesitancey to call the police and this of course part of the conversation. again, we're trying to ascertain why and how this investigation started. so it's relevant for that purpose. are we talki and three on page even? >> yes. >> oh, that's not miss -- that's as i understand it ms. madison speculating as to why she -- she says it's my impression. how is her impression -- how is that a factual evidence? >> i -- i think it's her interpretation of what ms. lopez was saying. she may be shearing her gloss on that. it's not clear from the declaration. so i think in light of the fact we can't ask her for clarification on this point, i'm not sure how to proceed on that. >> i would be inclined to sustain the objection. any decenting view from the commission? hearing none, paragraph 15. >> yes, again heresay sazz to the entire paragraph onlines 10 through 13. the entire sentence beginning with "she" and ending with "argument," that's irrelevant and more prejudicia

lopez, ms. williams, ms. madison, mr. merritten and ms. peralta haynes, and likewise communications between ms. lopez and the sheriff, ms. williams, ms. madison, mr. merritten and ms. peralta haynes. it's a conferencelation taken from the telephone records from at&t as well as those text messages that the mayor's office has. so that is exhibit 83. >> so the names have been substituted for phone numbers? >> that is correct. so sheriff, i'm going to ask you to turn to page two of exhibit 83. now sheriff, can you see on the top line of that exhibit? >> yes. >> does that reflect the text message that you sent to your wife at 12:03 p.m. on january 4? >> on page three, i have here. page 3 of 17. >> sheriff, you should be on exhibit 83, not 82, sorry. >> yes. >> ok. are you on page two of exhibit 83? >> yes. >> you see that top line reflects that 12:03 p.m. text message? >> yes. >> and that's referencesing a voicemail that you left for your wife? >> yes. >> ok. looking at page one of exhibit 83, >> yes. >> you have communications on january 4 that

lopez because she couldn't control herself and that's really what the heresay exception is aimed at. chairperson hur: yeah, mr. kopp, one thing that comes to mind as we discuss this issue, i think we asked if you would -- if you would be prepared today to tell us whether ms. lopez is going to submit a declare ration. do you have that information? >> i do. i do not speak directly to ms. lopez. i talk to her lawyer. i am informed that she is willing to submit a declaration. i don't have a firm grasp on what the timing of that would be. but i hope that it would be within the next week or so. part of it is because it's responsive to these declarations that were responded to the weekend or friday an then again on sunday. no decision has been made as to whether or not she is willing to appear for live testimony or cross-examination or appear remotely. that's all i can tell you at this point. >> when will you know? will you get an answer? >> i expect it within a week. i'm going to know -- i should be able to get a declaration or hope to be able to get one and i should have an answer as to whether or not she'll submi

mr. keith, you may proceed. >> good evening, ms. lopez. have you communicated with your husband's attorneys, mr. kopp or mr. wagner at any time before tonight? >> i just give him a little back and say hello and i bring a present for him from venezuela because i think they are doing a great job, both of you. i have one for you, too. >> have you had any conversations with them about the events of december 31 or anything that happened after that with regard to the police investigation of that incident? >> no. >> did you share a draft of your declaration with your husband's attorneys? >> no. >> and you recall being directed by the chair of the commission not to discuss your testimony with anyone after leaving the witness chair last night? >> yes. >> have you discussed your testimony with anyone since leaving the witness chair last night? >> no. >> ms. lopez, last night when we left off, i asked you about whether you made a statement to your husband on december 31 along the lines of, please stop, look at what you're doing to our son, do you know

lopez? there is one thing. mr. keith and mr. kopp, do either of you have an objection to ms. lopez appearing by skype if payment of her plane ticket cannot be worked out? >> no. >> commissioner, i do not know if we have an objection. the reason is this. when this issue was raised by the other side, we did some research into the validity of oaths and testimony given from abroad. it is not clear to us that, under the various treaties that govern these, that the oath would be valid. i do not have any other problem with the testimony being by skype. we are not convinced that the of itself would be valid, and we are not sure if that is a risk we want to take, given the validity of the oath. >> let us say that we take the testimony. we get the transcript. we send the transcript to ms. lopez. she signs the transcript, under penalty of perjury. does that obviate your concern? >> i think it would. >> great. thank you. i apologize. this is the third time i have asked you to come up, and i appreciate your willingness. indeed.

mr. lopez, thank you for talking with us. appreciate it.s could mark a very pivotal turn in what's been happening in syria. would you agree with that? >> i think it's possible. essenti certainly the defections of this week and the killing this close to assad is the reach of the rebels closer than any of us anticipated and quicker than any of us anticipated. it's also the case that this particular style of attack has not been the style of syrian army or the rebels. and so you raise the question of whether or not these are outside elements that are also at work here in this increasingly complex and deadly situation. >> how likely is that, in fact? i thought the same thing, that it doesn't seem to be the hallmark of anything else that we have seen up to now in the months and months of fighting that's been happening in syria. what would your gut tell you on the way this was pulled off? >> that they learned very quickly they had a quick opportunity. had a particular individual who was willing to go this route. and in the heat of battle here in w

and say they're supposed to call 911 when they see someone drowning which is insane and apparently mr. lopez21-year-old lifeguard got the other lifeguards to watch his zone so it is not like he left the zone unattended and several other lifeguards quit in protest. they say they would have done the same thing and ellis and associates is telling the sun sentinel they will review the situation. >> and thomas lopez is hoping to get his check in the mail and afraid to pick it up. >> he will get another job. >> the worst part is not that they fired this guy but they fired some of the other lifeguards at the company because they went on the record saying they would have done the same thing. >> i think they will change their mind. the last thing i said, they're now reviewing? come on. the outpouring of anger, you know, i was a lifeguard many moons ago. >> i was. >> you can't swim. >> i am the guy, exactly. >> i would rescue you. the way we were always taught was that it is sort of the equivalent of fire fighters, like no matter where you are you go and save someone who is drowning. even if you're of

lopez, i'm going to actually stop you. this is not an answer -- >> sorry. >> to the question. mr. keith, please proceed. >> ms. lopez, earlier you mentioned that ms. madison was advising you to call the police? >> that was that i told linnette. >> ok. but then your declaration you say you realized she was actually calling your husband's political enemies against your wishes. >> yes. >> what new information did you get or -- >> that i didn't -- >> what new information did you get around that time that ms. madison was out there calling your husband's political enemies. >> that's asked and answered. >> mr. keith, last time you asked that question you got a very -- i think you got a pretty detailed answer. what are you -- >> i don't think i got an answer to the question that i asked. that's why i'm asking the question in this way. >> i'll withdraw the objection. >> ok. ms. lopez, please proceed with your answer. >> repeat the question, please. i feel the same, don't worry. >> if the court reporter could read back the question. [the court reporter read back the last question] >> i see you are trying to make -- when