mrs. mccullen counselingoes her early in the morning on tuesdays and wednesdays beginning a7:00 in the morning. she testified that she is sometimes alone when she does this counseling. clack testified that 90% of the time that she's at the she is allorcester, alone. a statute that makes it illegal or mrs. mccullen mrs. clark to engage in peaceful, cons sensual conversation on a public sidewalk, for fear of obstruction and congestion, is narrowly tailored. problem thei, the state faced is it doesn't know, considerable history of disturbances of and itg the entrance, doesn't -- well behaviored people and the people who don't behave well. occursr a disturbance it's too late. so the state is trying to say we want to make sure that the entrance is not blocked, and the only way we can the rule that applies to everyone. we cab screen people to know who will be well behaved and who will be disruptive. >> so i think the state is simply wrong about that fact for several reasons. there are many tools that the state either has in its current tool box or could enact that would deal with that concern. if i