and mrs. meltonhis concerns about the corporate culture as expressed in the letter to the board in 2002 had been addressed then, your daughter would still be with us? >> i do. it's heart breaking to me that his concerns were ignored. >> mr. melton, can you explain in a language we'll all understand the significance of the issue of not changing the part number? that, too, was made reference by mr. mcaleer. >> yes. it's very clear that the number was not changed so it could not be tracked. so no one could tell that the number had been changed or the part had been changed or swapped out. and an after thought, if we go through researching, if we didn't have some of the documents that we have now, we would have never known that the switch had ever been changed. >> in other words, an engineer who was engaged by your attorney did some sleuthing in junk yards and he finds that parts don't square up. the ignition related parts. and yet the number is the same. it's only by doing that kind of a comparison that

. >> lance, have the meltons actually have a conversation with mr. will they talk with mr. feinberg if they decide to opt into this plan? >> they won't opt into this plan. it's my understanding the plan does not even include them. in other words, they would not be part of the plan. gm is taking the position 59 least at this point that the meltons don't want to be part of the plan. 55 ultimately they want their case to go before a jury. >> explain this to me. brooke melton was killed in a chevy cobalt with a faulty ignition switch why would that not be covered in the compensation plan? >> they're taking the position, at least at this point, that the melton case had settled. we settled the case last year, but we've opened it back up because of the fraud committed on the meltons during their case. however, gm continues to take the position that the case is over. >> what fraud was committed? i'm confused by that. >> ultimately in the melton case -- in the melton case, during the case, they told us that they had never changed the switch. their engineer te

mr. valukas, i think you alluded this a few minutes ago. if not for the brooke melton lawsuit, i can't see the back of the room, but her picture may be up there on the wall. she's in my district in georgia. if not for the brooke melton lawsuit and she was killed and her lawyers found out her ignition switch from model year 2008 was different from model years 2005, '06 and '07 in the cobalt, would we know about this switch problem today? would we be aware of it? >> the answer is yes because the -- there was an open and, at that point, significant investigation going on at that particular point. certainly, there was information and evidence that was accumulating as they were going forward pointing to the fact they had non-deployments and fatality. >> that's a big cover up to me. after general motors learned of the change, it took months to confirm there had been a change. why did this take so long? >> i don't have a good answer for that. i can tell you it did take that long, from the time of april, 2013 when that deposition took place, they knew or should have known or k