mr. mulligan was the contractor on the 1 990 permit. so she could add mr. mulligan as the contractor on this permit. a lot of times, people pull a permit as owner-builder, and then, they add a contractor later. is that what you're asking? okay. but it wasn't taken out -- the renewal permit was not taken out by mr. mulligan, it was taken out by regina mulligan, his ex-wife. >> clerk: okay. thank you, commissioners. this matter's submitted. >> i did have some language -- we would typically -- when we find something like this at an inspection, we would typically issue a correction notice. the correction notice would have a time limit. then, we would issue a notice of violation which would read something like the permit's been approved in error. please submit a revision permit. the windows are not allowed, something like that. there is currently a notice of violation on the property for the expired permit. the permit is now suspended. that notice of violation has held, so we actually do have a notice of violation instructing them to renew the permit and get a fi