mr. chairman, the yeas are 11 the nays 10. >> murray 15. >> mr.rman this amendment simply ensures that whatever plans my republican colleagues are hoping to accomplish either through this a budget process or through doge cannot come at the expense of community standby what senator kennedy has said the clerk will call the roll precook's mr. grassley. mr. crapo. mr. johnson. mr. marshall. mr. cornyn. mr. lee. mr. kennedy. mr. ricketts. mr. moreno. mr. scott. mr. merkley. mrs. murray. mrs. murray. mr. wyden. mr. sanders. mr. whitehouse. mr. warner. mr. kaine. mr. van hollen. mr. lujan. mr. padilla. mr. chairman. mr. chairman, the yeas are attending nays are 11. >> three more whitehouse number 11. what do you spell a soda in the living room you clean it up. you drop a jar screws in the garage to pick them up and if you spill 7.5 million metric tons of methane out to your leaks you ought to clean it up. this amendment would preserve the incentive to stop the leaking. >> thank you, senator kennedy i stand by what he said. the clerk will call the roll. m

mrs. murray: mr. president, the trump administration is working to destroy medical research as we know it with an illegal, unrealistic cap on the nih reimbursement rate for indirect costs. it means cancer researchers laid of course, lifesaving clinical trials canceled and more. and it violates the bipartisan appropriations law. i should know, i help author that provision. republicans should know. they worked with me to pass it. i yield to the senior senator from illinois. mr. durbin: mr. president, my republican colleagues know, as i do, that president trump's cuts, freezes, gag orders and firings are devastating medical research at nih. since we get sick on a bipartisan basis, shouldn't we stand together on a bipartisan basis for medical research at nih? the presiding officer: the senator from louisiana. mr. kennedy: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from louisiana. mr. kennedy: thank you. all foam, no beer. this proposal, mr. president, deals with health care spending. i would remind

the clerk: mrs. murray. senator murry: aye. votes aye. the clerk: mr. widen. senator wyden: aye -- mr. wyden. those in favor signify by saying aye. the clerk: mr. sanders. senator sanders: aye. the clerk: mr. whitehouse. senator whitehouse: aye. the clerk: mr. warner. senator warner: no. the clerk: mr. kaine. mr. kaine: no. -- senator kaine: no. the clerk: mr. van hollen. senator van hollen: aye. the clerk: mr. lujan. chair graham: are you sure about that? >> yes. chair graham: ok. all right. i'm trying to get my man's back here. he votes no. ok. the clerk: mr. padilla. senator padilla: no. the clerk: mr. chairman. chair graham: no. the clerk: mr. chairman, the ayes are six, the nays are 15. chair graham: thank you. senator whitehouse 1. senator whitehouse: thank you, chairman. this would protect the methane leak fee that is specifically targeted in this instruction by lifting the instruction related to 7.5 metric tons of methane leaked out for which the industry received $1.6 billion upfront for repairs as a part of the deal for this fee and now they're walki

the clerk: mrs. murray. senator murry: aye. votes aye. the clerk: mr. widen. senator wyden: aye -- mr. wyden. those in favor signify by saying aye. the clerk: mr. sanders. senator sanders: aye. the clerk: mr. whitehouse. senator whitehouse: aye. the clerk: mr. warner. senator warner: no. the clerk: mr. kaine. mr. kaine: no. -- senator kaine: no. the clerk: mr. van hollen. senator van hollen: aye. the clerk: mr. lujan. chair graham: are you sure about that? >> yes. chair graham: ok. all right. i'm trying to get my man's back here. he votes no. ok. the clerk: mr. padilla. senator padilla: no. the clerk: mr. chairman. chair graham: no. the clerk: mr. chairman, the ayes are six, the nays are 15. chair graham: thank you. senator whitehouse 1. senator whitehouse: thank you, chairman. this would protect the methane leak fee that is specifically targeted in this instruction by lifting the instruction related to 7.5 metric tons of methane leaked out for which the industry received $1.6 billion upfront for repairs as a part of the deal for this fee and now they're walki

the clerk: mrs. murray. senator murray: aye. the clerk: mr. wyden. senator wyden: aye. the clerk: mr. sanders. senator sanders: chairman, the yeas are 10, the nays are 11. chair graham: next is warner 7. senator warner: thank you, mr. chairman. as i explained earlier, this would try to just put in place for these doge officials, many of who do not have appropriate clearances, to make sure we can do all we can to protect this national security and the information that are in these classified accounts. my fear is, either by malfeasance or just plain stupidity some of this is going to get out and our nation is going to be made less strong. i urge adoption of the amendment. chair graham: thank you, senator crapo, i think the explanation stands. call the roll, please. faster. the clerk: mr. grassley. senator grassley: no. the clerk: mr. crapo. senator crapo: no. the clerk: mr. johnson. senator johnson: no. the clerk: mr. marshall. senator marshall: no. the clerk: mr. cornyn. senator cornyn: no. the clerk: mr. lee. senator lee: no. the clerk: mr. kennedy. senator kennedy: no.

mrs. murray? >> aye.ri >> mr. widen? >> aye. >> mr. sanders? >> aye. >> mr. whitehouse? >> aye. >> mr. warner? >> aye. >> mr. kane? >> aye. >> mr. van holland? mr. luhan? >> is that okay? yeah. thank you. [laughter] momentum here. mr. padilla? >> aye. >> mr. chairman? >> no. >> mr. chairman, the yeas are ten the and the nays are 11. >> senator widen one. >> thank you, mr. chairman. this takes medicaid off the chopping block in the united states senate. and we know that medicaid is a lifeline for nursing home patients and families. we know it's so important in rural communities. we know it's so important for employees who work somewhere where the employer can't afford healthcare coverage. i urge my colleagues to support this amendment. i guessth it's called widen one. >> what senator said before sounds good to me. i will oppose it. the clerk will call the roll. >> mr. grassley? >> no. >> mr. crepo? >> no. >> mr. johnson? >> no. >> mr. marshal? >> no. >> mr. cornyn? >> no. >> mr. lee? >> no. >> mr. kennedy? >> no. >> mr. ricketts? >> no. >> mr. moreno? >> no. >> mr. scott?

mrs. murray: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from washington. mrs. ay: thank you, mr. president. thank you to my colleague from oregon who very clearly stated why this nominee is not someone who should be holding the time of secretary of health and human services, and i appreciate all of his work on this and his wise words. i hope everyone heeds them. mr. president, the american people are watching now, with alarm, because the vast majority of people know vaccines are safe, they're effective, they are lifesaving. but we are now on the verge of confirming as our nation's highest health official a man who has spent considerable time, money and effort undermining that basic fact, a man who has abused his platform by refusing to acknowledge the well-established science that shows that vaccines are not linked to autism. fear about that point fueled by rfk jr. and others peddling m misinformation is a leading reason that parents do not get their quits vacks -- their kids vaccinated against preventable, dangerous diseases. that is why elevating a man like rf

mrs. murray: the senate is not in order. the presiding officer: the senate will be in order. mrs. murray: madam president, my amendment does two things. first, it strikes the reconciliation instructions. secondly, it creates a reserve funds to implement a bipartisan, multi-year agreement to provide 171 billion in discretionary funding for both defense and nondefense. democrats do agree. we need more resources to invest in our national security and address the challenges at the border and counter china, but we cannot leave the rest of the budget in the dust while we do that. so let's deliver investments to do both, and make sure we also support our veterans, agriculture, disaster response, biomedical research, faa, child care, and more. these are all big challenges. democrats stand ready to work with our colleagues, as we have in the past, including through bipartisan efforts on the appropriations committee. that can only happen if republicans are willing to work with us, and working with us means actually working with us, not telling us to accept elon musk cutting a trillion dollar

mrs. murray: mr. president. the presiding officer: i recognize the senator from washington. mrs. murray: thank you, mr. president. mr. president, we need to be focused on solving problems, and i think most of us here get that. no matter who the president is, our constituents expect us to work for them. they expect us to fight for them, and they expect us to do the hard work would of passing laws to make their lives better. people don't send us here to make their lives worse, but that's exactly what trump and musk are doing. they are looking at our most pressing problems and making them worse and this budget proposal will only add fuel to that fire. right now, even as egg prices hit an all time high, trump and musk have done nothing to lower prices. they've done nothing to address the housing crisis or help families get quality affordable child care or address other issues i hear about from folks all the time. instead they are slashing programs that help our families make ends meet. they are dputing an -- gutting an agency, and starting trade wars that will impose what is effective

mrs. murray. mr. ossoff. mr. padilla. mr. paul. mr. peters. mr. reed. mr. ricketts. mr. risch. ms. rosen. mr. rounds. mr. sanders. mr. schatz. mr. schiff. mr. schmitt. mr. schumer. mr. scott of florida. mr. scott of south carolina. mrs. shaheen. mr. sheehy. ms. slotkin. ms. smith. mr. sullivan. mr. thune. mr. tillis. mr. tuberville. mr. van hollen. mr. warner. mr. warnock. ms. warren. mr. welch. mr. whitehouse. mr. wicker. mr. wyden. mr. young. the clerk: senators voting in the affirmative -- barrasso, cotton, cramer, crapo, cruz, fischer, justice, marshall, moran, mullin, rounds, sheehy, thune, tuberville, wicker. senators voting in the negative -- blunt rochester, cantwell, kaine, kelly, kim, murray, and warnock. ms. alsobrooks, no. the clerk: ms. baldwin, no. mr. mccormick, aye. the clerk: mr. schatz, no. mr. daines, aye. the clerk: mr. reed, no. ms. hassan, no. the clerk: mrs. blackburn, aye. mr. lujan, no. mr. van hollen, no. mr. gallego, no. mr. wyden, no. mrs. hyde-smith, aye. the clerk: mr. sanders, n

the clerk: mrs. murray, no. the clerk: mr. hoeven, aye. the clerk: mr. scott of south carolina, aye. . the clerk: mr. merkley, no. the clerk: mr. budd, aye. mrs. gillibrand, no. mr. moran, aye. the clerk: mr. fetterman, no. the clerk: mr. schatz, no. ms. smith, no. mr. husted, aye. ms. lummis, aye. the clerk: mrs. capito, aye. ms. cantwell, no. the clerk: mr. cramer, aye. mr. kim, no. ms. murkowski, aye. mr. coons, no. mr. kaine, no. the clerk: mr. warner, no. mr. king, no. the clerk: mr. warnock, no. the clerk: mr. mcconnell, no. the clerk: mr. schmitt, aye. mr. cruz, aye. mr. lee, aye. mrs. moody, aye. mr. daines, aye. mr. schiff, no. mr. booker, no. mr. padilla, no. mr. padilla, no. is led by this. we wish to be everywhere all times. with allies and partners and encouraged everyone to invest have they represent but it requires realistic nominees. a lot of to the media anyone suggests abandonment are trying to drive away allies. we are committed to that and understand the importance. the fiscal reality of the have to. nato has to spend more and we are

mr. murray of the chief of health, homelessness and family services showed up instead of the mayor. >> he said he was there to listen only and why is that? what were these people these campaign people doing researching during their entire campaign? >> so now already have informed plans ready to deploy just sounded like now they're starting to gather information and hear stories and. he also said he couldn't imagine what these families are going through. everything. maybe the people who can't imagine who have been homeless or who are currently homeless who understand the daily emergency of what being homeless is should be the ones to be given this power since they seem to be the only people who will act with the urgency this requires. >> don't admire their resilience create a society where they don't need to be resilient. one person said every day is like a year. >> something needs to be done to date. >> they're basically just asking to have a real shelter to stable housing solutions. they don't have to exit onto the streets with their kids who are depressed, some of which are contemplatin

mrs. murray. mr. ossoff. mr. padilla. mr. paul. mr. peters. mr. reed. mr. ricketts. mr. risch. ms. rosen. mr. rounds. mr. sanders. mr. schatz. mr. schiff. mr. schmitt. mr. schumer. mr. scott of florida. mr. scott of south carolina. mrs. shaheen. mr. sheehy. ms. slotkin. ms. smith. mr. sullivan. mr. thune. mr. tillis. mr. tuberville. mr. van hollen. mr. warner. mr. warnock. ms. warren. mr. welch. mr. whitehouse. mr. wicker. mr. wyden. mr. young. the presiding officer: a quorum is present. the ske is is it the sense of the senate that the debate on the nomination of russell vought of virginia to be director. office of management and budget shall be brought to a close. the yeas and nays are mandatory under the rule. the clerk will call the roll. vote: the clerk: ms. alsobrooks. ms. baldwin. mr. banks. mr. barrasso. mr. bennet. >> thank you, mr. chairman, ranking member, members of the esteemed committee for the opportunity to appear before you today. let me begin by thanking my girls who are now returning to the congressional confirmation. their love and enthusiasm for me serving agai

mrs. murray: thank you, mr. president. mr. president, i rise today to join my colleagues in urging all of our colleagues to vote against reduce vought's nomination to lead the office of management and budget. the senate should not vote to confirm as the head of omb or to any important role for that matter someone who does not respect the constitutional authority of the senate and thus the people we represent. we should not entrust someone to implement our laws who has made clear time and again through his past actions in this same role during president trump's first term, through his work as the head architect of project 2025, and through his own words in hearings and meetings that he will not follow the law, that he will not follow the laws, and that he will not send our communities the funding that we all worked together to pass. why on earth would any one of us confirm someone whose entire game plan is to break the law and then dare the word to stop him? that's it. that is how reduce vought plans -- russ vought plans to run

mrs. murray. mr. ossoff. mr. padilla. mr. paul. mr. peters. mr. reed. mr. ricketts. mr. risch. ms.rosen. mr. rounds. mr. sanders. mr. schatz. mr. schiff. mr. schmitt. mr. schumer. plan is to help the wealthy get wealthier tax giveaways families paying the bill. how massive giveaways going to be paid for? slashing services to families and families try to get on their feet so they can thrive and get to the middle-class. great betrayal. today we will consider russell the office of management and the budget really the place for this campaign is coordinated. we will hear very different ideas have to take our country forward. from my friends across the aisle will hear we need to continue to give massive tax giveaways to the wealthiest americans and we will hear how nonpartisan expertise that makes our country run smoothly should be replaced by those with political loyalty and how programs that assist the environment or unions organizing working people should be replaced by programs that serve big corporations and make billionaires. our senate has a provision, that we set up and the wealt

mrs. murray. the presiding officer: pursuant to rule 12, no debate issinged during a vote. senator will suspend. the clerk: mr. ossoff. the presiding officer: pursuant to rule 12, no debate is permitted during a vote. the senator will suspend. the clerk: mr. padilla. the presiding officer: no debate is permitted during a vote. the clerk: mr. paul. mr. peters. the presiding officer: pursuant to too rule 12, no debate is permitted during a vote e the senator will suspend. the clerk: mr. reed. the presiding officer: no debate is permitted during a vote. the clerk: ricketts. mr. risch. mr. risch. ms. rosen. mr. rounds. the presiding officer: no debate is permit during a vote. the senator will suspend. the clerk: mr. rounds. mr. sanders. mr. schatz. the presiding officer: no debate is permitted during a vote. the senator will suspend. the clerk: mr. schiff the presiding officer: no debate is permitted during a vote. the senator will suspend. the clerk: mr. schmitt. mr. schumer. the clerk: mr. schumer, you should know, pursuant -- the clerk: mr. scott of florida. mr. scott of sout

murray: thank you, mr. chairman. welcome. ms. chavez-deremer: thank you. sen. murray: the trump administration is violating the bipartisan agreements by refusing to spend money that congress and a bipartisan manner has passed for the american people. i have been hearing about it in my home state of washington. i heard from an organization about whether or not they will support veterans who are seeking educational and employment opportunities as they transition to civilian life. i heard from a workforce training program that operates statewide about whether they will now be able to continue pair workers with employers in the grocery industry. you should know that the chaos surrounding these funding freezes is causing real damage to people's lives. i want to know will you commit to following appropriations law and the impoundment control act? ms. chavez-deremer: thank you. i know we talked about this in your office and i do respect the appropriations committee. as a former member of congress, i think everyone in this room who's ever sat behind the dais can underst

mr. vought: the reason why the president ran on this is 200 years of presidents -- sen. murray: you are telling me why you don't agree with the law, but the law is the law, would you agree? mr. vought: we had agencies that would push out at the end of the fiscal year. sen. murray: i will take my time back for a minute and tell all of us, we work all the time on appropriations to come to an agreement. senator graham, we work on agreements and we decide we will both vote for this. how could we ever have an agreement in the future if a president, whoever he or her may be in the future as say over that, saying never mind, i will not pay for this part of it? we have to have agreements, it is the law of the land. i have to say your answer to this should be disconcerting to every single member on this committee. i have a minute left and i want to mess you another important question to me because as director of the powerful office of management and budget, your job will not be merely to execute the president's agenda, it is also to advise the president on policy issues you made clear.

murray. >> thank you, mr. chairman. congresswoman chavez-deremer welcome. the trump administration is violating agreement in our appropriation law by refusing to spend money that congress and a bipartisan manner has task for the american people. i've been hearing about it in my home state of washington i heard from an organization in edmonds about whether or not i will now be able to provide support for our veterans were seeking educational and employment opportunities as they transition to civilian life. i heard from workforce training program that operates statewide about whether they will now be able to continue to pair workers with employers in the grocery industry. you should know the chaos of serenity's funding freezes is causing real damage to people's lives. so, i want to know will you commit to following appropriation laws and the empowerment control act? >> yes thank you, senator. i know we talked about this in your office is ranking member of appropriations i do respect the appropriations committee. as a former member of congress i think everyone

murray. >> thank you, mr. chairman. congressman rick to see. thank you for meeting with me in my office.i i appreciated that discussion and going to start with question reference referenced what you just talked about because back in 2018 under president trump's first administration the v.a. in of which is the oracle center-no-bid contract to run up the city electronic health record to all v.a. facilities. the first went live my host in 2020. it was disastrous. v.a. endangered patients by rushing the deployment not making sure the system was technically sound, not working with the clinicians on the ground and not providing sufficient training. veterans have and providedg are still paying the price for that. last month v.a. announced it would be moving forward with predetermined activities at the next for the electronic health record. you said you reference it here you plan to make ehr a priority. i want to know what specifically that means. are you going to advertise it arising the limitation, or are you going to prioritize it by getting the system right and focusing on veterans safety an

mr. chairman and colleagues. it was a few weeks ago i think in the regular senate budget committee room we had a hearing for 00 at that time senator murray both asked a direct question. whether he would commit to complying with the law including the environment control act.he refused to say yes. now he's over at omd and we see a whole lot of illegal actions going on which is why our courts are now filled with various actions and complaints and judges are initially euros. it would be helpful if our colleagues would help those lawyers defend article 1 because their shredding article 1. i think it's also important to remember exactly who russell vote is. he is the architect project 2025. what is project 2025? it's the plan blueprint that candidate trump when asked about it said i don't know anything about it. i don't know who those people are. yet he went about installing russell vote in the command and control center for the budget of the united states. what they are doing now is implement in project 2025 and the reason canada candidate trump didn't want talk about because he knew how unpopular it was. that's why he ran away from it on the

mr. chair, i ask unanimous consent that the letter i received from the g.a.o. be entered in the record. chair graham: without objection. sen. van hollen: i listened carefully to the exchange you had with senator murray and you had a very clear opportunity to say yes, you will comply with the impoundment control act. i didn't hear you say that. just to give you another chance, will you comply with the impoundment control act? mr. vought: senator, the president ran against the impoundment control act. senator van hollen: mr. vought, i know what the president did. he wants to change lots of things. you can submit legislation to do that, but you're going to be the head of o.m.b., and here today at this hearing, you're refusing to commit to comply with the impoundment control act, is that right? are you refusing to complying? mr. vought: senator, the administration has to go through a policy process to understand the legal parameters for operating in the i.c.a. senator van hollen: i am going to reclaim my time. it seems that complying with the current law, even if you disagree with it, would result in a clear answer, yes, i will comply with the current law, including the impoundment control act. let me g