he -- mr. nixon declined the amount of jobs at jfk election in order to avoid a conflict during the difficult cold war. it's hard to imagine a modern day candidate doing that. it happened because richard nixon, the peacemaker, refused to make his own ambition more important than his love of country and peace. learning about war and peace, much later, he said that he learned especially large amount from charles degaul who he loved, and he was a very impressive guy. he thought of degaul in some ways like him. he had come to office during greatly tumultouss times. sham bells. country in conflict in the streets. need for peacemaker. he learned how to make peace and pull the country together. thus, it was that one two one in 1968 against hubert humphrey, who was a genuinely great man. a genuinely fine man. not a bully like politics today. >> he wrote me this. you and i were e-mailing back and forth about this speech. riots and walks. the chicago democratic convention in the state. sorry. and the accompany

i know mrs. nixon had a stroke. and i called my old office in the white house. -- said call camp pendleton and tell them to send a cardiologist right away. they censure to i went down to the house and mrs. nixon is german irish and a bit stubborn. nothing wrong. nothing wrong with me. he was trying to talk to her into going to the hospital. finally they told me there is an ambulance here. a doctor from camp pendleton. she said no. if we go anywhere we're going to long beach hospital. she said i don't need to. she had a stroke. her arm wasn't working. i whispered you are either going or i am carrying you. she got in the ambulance and president nixon got on the back of the ambulance. he rode with her to long beach hospital. hugh: get is from there, to the various crises to sitting down with mao in 1976. it was remarkable you go from that situation. how does that trip come about? what does president ford think about it? let's start with you, frank. how does this evolve? the first china trip after the resignation? frank

also had health crises. >> mrs. nixon -- mrs. nixon had a stroke and the president called me at home, former president, very early in the morning and he said, jack, come down here. i was with eisenhower when he had a stroke and i know mrs. nixon's had a stroke. so i immediately i called back to the -- my old office in the white house, and said, the military office, excuse me, and i said, call camp pendleton and tell them to send the cardiologist up here with an ambulance right away. and they just said, sure. so i went down to the house and mrs. nixon was -- mrs. nixon is german irish and a bit stubborn sometimes, which is nothing wrong, nothing wrong with me, nothing wrong with me. and he was trying to talk to her and to let's go, we've got to go to the hospital. and finally they told me, they said, okay, we've got an ambulance here. and the doctor from camp pendleton. i said i have a doctor from camp pendleton. and she said, no. president nixon said if we go anywhere we're going to long beach hospital. she said i don't need to. b

mr. nixon was well schooled. he had been a vice president, a member of the senate, a member of the house. argued before the supreme court. he came into the job understanding it and on the run. his campaign transition was very quick. i find the trump administration about 180 degrees away from their. they seemed surprised to win, they had a week transition period -- weak transition. . the takeover has been awkward at best. president in had a my knowledge, i am a student in the

mr. nixon's political career from his early days in congress and to his downfall as president. >> the way that the watergate burglars. >> good afternoon, everyone. as you know we're moving forward with the gorsuch nomination for the supreme court that should be wrapped up some time friday. it appears as if closure will not be invoked but we'll find out on thursday but either way we'll be moving toward confirming judge gorsuch on friday. when we get back, we'll be moving to the funding of the government. discussions are underway on a bipartisan basis. house and senate appropriators and we anticipate being able to finish that last week before the time runs out and so that's the agenda for this week and the week we get back. >> i got to the senate in 2002 and immediately senator schumer and democratic colleagues instituted the idea of filibustering judges. interestingly enough if you look at our nation's history dating back to the birth of our country, there had never been a traditional of filibustering judges and as many have pointed out, even people like clarence thomas were confirmed with

mr. nixon was well schooled. he had been a vice president, a member of the senate, a member of the house. argued before the supreme court. he came into the job understanding it and on the run. his campaign transition was very quick. i find the trump administration about 180 degrees away from their. they seemed surprised to win, they had a week transition period -- weak transition. . the takeover has been awkward at best. president in had a my knowledge, i am a student in the office -- of the office as well, come in with the kind of hasage that mr. trump carried. he arrived on the scene with unfolding scandals. >> all month, we are featuring c-span's studentcam winners. this year, students told us the most urgent issue for the new president and congress. our grand prize winners are sisters from blacksburg, virginia. ava lazar is homeschooled in the seventh-grade, mia lazar is in the ninth-grade. their documentary is called the tempest tossed. >> is not about what political party you are, it's about values and help

over the years that nixon denied at the time and denied it to david frost and his biographers and said he never played a role in doing this. longtime journalist and author of the book on mr. richard nixon's political career and his downfall as president. >> the way their team was assembled, they were a former intelligence agents that were supervised by young men on the staff but wanted to be the castt that broughcastbut thought thatd president door. >>> i used the bell ringers, sometimes i don't use them but i will use them in conjunction with an activity we are doing that they more as a wrapup. >> the website is fabulous. my students use it regularly in fact right now they are working on clipping videos and questions that they can design and turn into their own bell ringers. >> it's a perfectly set up ready to go discussion on a variety of topics that are current and relevant today. >> if you are a middle or high school teacher joining many as a member of c-span classroom. it's free and easy to register at c-span.org/mac classroom and you can request the classroom size american presidents timeline poster, a display of all 45 presidents. find out more at c-span.org/class

mr. nixon's political career from his early days in congress to his tenure and downfall as president. washe way the team assembled -- they were clumsy, they were cynical burnt out former intelligence agents who are supervised by young men on nixon's staff who just wanted to be the cat that brought the dead mouse to the president's door. >> washington journal continues. host: congressman paul tonko of new york joins us now. a week removed from president signing an executive order aimed at rolling back several obama era climate energy regulations. congressman, remind us what that order targeted. guest: basically they target the clean power plan which is a very strongly organized program that addresses carbon pollution in our society coming from our power plants. i think it is so important because it's a major way to which islimate change a concept. the fact are in. speak very strongly about the damage of carbon pollution and greenhouse gas emissions. we shouldn't deny those facts and we need to go forward with a plan that enables us to reduce carbon in our environment and work toward a

give restful rest to peace, to president and mrs. nixon whose mortal remains lie in the sacred soil. god bless us everyone and god bless america. [ applause ] >> please be seated. thank you, monsignor baird for that beautiful invocation. wow. what a great day and thank you for all coming. this first begin with a round of applause for all those who are participating in this exciting occasion. dr. art bartner and the usc trojan marching band for their spectacular performance. [ applause ] they joined us today to honor our wonderful and beloved first lady pat nixon who attended usc and graduated grade cum laude in 1937. janine sang, thank you for that beautiful rendition of the star spangled banner. she is a singer and motivational speaker and holds the distinction of singing the national anthem in all 50 states. thank you to the blue eagles honor guard. [ applause ] blue eagles honor guard from march air force base for its presentation of the colors. and if things work out, that could be the flyover that's been held for weather. yeah. timing

mr. nixon's political career from his early days in congress to his tenure and downfall as president. >> the way that the watergate burglars team was assembled was clumsy. they were cynical, burnt out, former intelligence or f.b.i. gents who were supervised by young men on nixon's staff who just wanted to be one of the famous, "the cat that brought the dead mouse to the president's door." >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's "q & a." announcer: "washington journal" continues. host: we welcome representative sam bonamici democrat from oregon. your first time on the c-span network. we're glad to have you. welcome. guest: thank you, steve. happy to be here. guest: let's talk about i.c.e. agents and where they can and cannot go and talk about your bill. guest: sure. we introduced this act last week. we're very concerned, myself, the representative from new york, and others, about the fear that has increased in our communities. the district i am honored to represent in northwest oregon has a significant latino population. people have been afraid about going to school, kids have been af

nixon library. at the end of the exhibit you see the tombs of mr. and mrs. nixon, then there is a little white house that you can tour. i assumed that they had moved the home to the library site, but i was told that no comment he chose the site of his childhood home for his library, which i thought was interesting. an interesting statement about him. i understand the libraries are a partnership between private and public. -- does thelic private foundations stop its involvement when the government takes over, or do they continue to work together? ms. kanter: that is a great question, the answer is the latter that they continue to work together. has a lotal archives of the administrative responsibilities. foundation does things like, they run the gift , and they pay for certain exhibits that are above and the scope of the presidential library is. for example, the most obvious example is, at the reagan library there is an air force one and exhibit where you walk into this glass enclosed room and air force one is sitting there before you. you can go in it. that e

mr. nixon's political career from his early days in congress to his tenure and downfall as president. >> the way the watergate burglars, their team was assembled was clumsy. they were burnt out former fbi bynts who were supervised young men on nixon's staff who wanted to be in. it it was the cat that brought the dead mouse to the president door. >> the los angeles times has been putting on the festival of books for more than 20 years. and it has become an institution a part of the community. celebratea way we can with the readers of the paper and with the city as a whole. it is a very notion of reading. of thereen the idea being something called "fake news" is out there, i think books help us celebrate the way that words and facts are grounded in storytelling, and in history. >> watcher live coverage of los angeles times festival of books all weekend april 22 and 23rd on open quote -- on "book tv" on c-span2. >> next, housing and urban secretary ben carson talks about housing programs. carson was asked about digital budget cuts to its guests to his department. this is 40 minutes. >> good

mr. nixon was well schooled in the presidency before he arrived in it. he had been a vice president dick yet been a member of the senate and a member of the house. a lawyer trained. he argued before the supreme court. so we came into the job understanding it on the run. his campaign transition was very quick. i find the trump administration about 180 degrees away from there. they seemed surprised to win. they had a very weak transition. weather didn't get themselves prepared to take over. and the takeover for the first couple of months has been awkward at best. so i find that difference, but we've never had a president, in my knowledge, i'm a student of the office as well, coming with the kind of baggage that mr. trump is carrying, that he arrived on the scene with unfolding scandals and the disposition that's very different from what we're used to in the presidency. >> so the disposition question i guess is where analogy, this id that there is an analogy between donald trump and richard nixon because of course nixon's public persona until we discovered

mr. nixon's political career from his early days in congress to his tenure and downfall as president.he way the team assembled -- they were clumsy, they were cynical burnt out former intelligence agents who are supervised by young men on nixon's staff who just wanted to be the cat that brought the dead mouse to the president's door. >> washington journal continues. host: congressman paul tonko of new york joins us now. a week removed from president

mr. nixon's political career from his early days in congress and to his downfall as president. >> the wayt the watergate burglars. >> good afternoon, everyone. as you know we're moving forward with the gorsuch nomination for the supreme court

so president nixon then turned around and wrote a note donald trump say mrs. nixone on donahue and says you are incredible and when donald trump was running lester he put that letter out. check the question i have is, with reagan. how did he come how was he able to work with the independents and democrats as well as the gop? because he was a conservative he was able to draw them and at the same time -- [inaudible] the two parties are much different than they are now. the reason many times as they were able to reach a compromise as they had some liberal democrats and liberal republicans. and part of the reason for this is that the parties both practice what was known as the balanced ticket. the liberal franklin roosevelt -- leader a very conservative harry truman. the moderate was the conservative nixon.the moderate. [inaudible] the parties operated in a sense of equilibrium for generations. goldwater is nominated in 1964. and when logic says they should have sought to unify the party, they have miller who is a little-known congressman from buffalo new york who is ev

mr. nixon's political career early days in congress to tenure downfall at president. >> the way the watergateg cynical burnt out intelligence agents supervised by young men on nixon's staff wanted to be one of the famous quotes go, the cat that brought the dead house to the president's door. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q and a. >> the aligns for health reform hosted a discussion on the future of medicate and how the program will be impacting by proposed health care policy. a panel of health spernts experts sieltd several studies and medicaid and talked about access to health services in ruler areas. the republican failed effort to repeal and replace the affordable care act and the role of state governments in providing quality health care to residents with proposed policy changes in play.

mr. nixon had just left the law firm and he was president. as i accepted the job -- went all around the law school. it got to the point when i walked by a mirror and i didn't want to look in it. julian bond: you did a job at the law firm and the people at the law school are saying where you are going. elaine jones: they were very proud. and a bond: very proud tribute to them and to you. so what happened? elaine jones: i felt awful. because that wasn't the reason why i had gone to law school. i was doing it only for money. that is another principle i picked up. i stumbled into it, but it is a good principle. it is all right for the money to be a factor. it is the real world. but when it is the only factor? and you are doing something solely because of the money -- you need to stop. julian bond: why could you not say, i will go to the law firm and make a lot of money for 20 years and then i go back to social activism and be better prepared? elaine jones: some people can say that. they say it now all the time. but for me, i wanted to start right

interview very similar in conte and prompted richard nixon who moved back to write him a letter saying mrs. nixon had seen and thought he should be running for office. so there was something about his appeal then that got -- >> you know what he is. we've always joked, he's been a democrat his whole life. he has been a democrat his entire life, but he's been a long island democrat. he has been a rockaways-type democrat, he's been a nassau county democrat his entire life. for people trying to find a consistency in donald trump, he is a nassau county democrat that did well. >> it's archie bunker, not gold plan sacks. >> we said an archie bunker billionaire. that's one of the great ironies. he's come into office and hired all these goldman sachs people. he's hired all these billionaires. he's hired people that, you know, maybe he respects their business acumen, but sort of disconnected from what we were seeing on the campaign trail. >>> coming up, new footage that seems to contradict the airline's original plane that the passenger was, quote, disruptive and belligerent. >>> whiplash in washington? pr

on the house judiciary committee to openly advocate for the impeachment of then president richard nixon. mr. hogan was 88 years old. >>> well, we are about to show you cell phone video that appears to a show a delta airlines pilot hitting a woman. we've obtained this vid grow tmz. according to washington post, we can take a look here. three women apparently got into a scuffle after a flight to atlanta last week, and that's when one of the women apparently wrapped another woman in a choke hold. and that's when the pilot moved fight. he hits the woman's hand. no one has been charged in the incident including that pilot. >>> riders on the green line with dealing with major disruptions because of stack. soon that work is going to shift to the orange and the red lines. it'll mean closing stations for the last two searches. it should help speed things up. this is what you need to know. for number 15, metro is closing five orange line stations. that's going to last for a full month from may 16th to june 15th. then, for 16, the shady grove and rock vim stations will be shut down on the redline. no

mr. holzer: not even nixon with the tapes. he turned over the tapes. prof. leuchtenburg: the episode i particularly think of is of truman with the steel strike. the supreme court in the midst of the korean war, the steelworkers find that the steel corporations will not bargain in good faith with them and they start to go out on strike. truman orders his secretary of commerce, sawyer, to seize the steel mills and have the government operated them. the steel companies carry that up to the united states supreme court and the court at down theown strike president's order with some sweeping language by some of the more liberal judges. truman is furious. he was fond of writing very blunt memos that he never sent. historians are blessed with the documents that he did not destroy, so we know what he was thinking about, but he obeyed the order. franklin roosevelt famously sought to pack the united states supreme court in 1937, but when the court invalidated the two major pieces of economic legislation of his first term, the national industrial recovery act and the ag

. >> john farrell, longtime journalist saw for or the book "richard nixon, the life" on mr. mixn's political area. >> the way the watergate burglars -- the team was assembled, they were cynical, burnt-out, former intelligence or fbi agent whose were supervised by young men on nixon's staff who just wanted to be one of the famous quotes go, the cat that brought the dead mouse to the president's door. >> tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span's q & a. >> but the other sort of contribution that i think the book -- i hope the book has is a discussion of the domestic trade and this is a trafficking of dead bodies. i've traced medical school records, anan nat my professors -- anan my professors involved the traffic and they wrote letters back and forth to one another, looking for the dead bodies of enslaved people or exhuming them from graves. one of the pivotal quotes i have is a quote from one medical doctor to the other that is saying, tell me how much it costs for a dead n-word, one that you can't -- excuse me do tell me what the cost of a dead, fine, stiff n, one that will cut of f

president nixon and kissinger looked at each other and said that mr lord was never at this meeting. the photos. adviser i was sitting right here, next to kissinger. it was a ready humiliating for the us secretary of state not to be the meeting while the national security adviser was. but to have in addition to that some punk in his early 30s also sitting in on the meeting... it is worth coming 16,000 milesjust to stand here and see the wall. join me in raising your glasses to chairman mao and to the friendship of the chinese and american people. we were in the middle of a geopolitical earthquake. there was a combination of nurses deal working on this, but also there was a combination of nerves of steel working on this, but also a sense that we were frankly in the midst of making history. and winston lord went on to be the ambassador to china and was involved in the country for the rest of his career. next, in march, 1997, catholic nun mother teresa stepped down from her charity work with the poor in india due to herfailing health. mari marcel thekaekara volunteered at her orphanage,

mr. spock says, no broken proverb that only nixon can go to china. that came from mouth. only nixon can do from the right what the men of the left cannot. you had nixon, anti-communist, go to china until the american people that this is in your wrist interest and they believed him because no one would ever accuse big nixon of being soft on communism. he also had what i found was fascinating he wrote this article in foreign affairs magazine before he ever took office in which he talks about this revolution that is coming. it's coming in the countries in the pacific rim like singapore and the philippines and japan. it'll be all about computers and independent creativity and he had this ability, this was 1967 to look far into the future and see what was going on. the only way i can forgive him for keeping the vietnam conflict going on as long as he could was that part of him believed he needed to buy time for these democracies to take root, for democracy to take hold in thailand and the philippines and malaysia. yeah,. >> you make an argument that i had first heard from. [in

nixon was knowledgeable. anyway, i want to go to cynthia on this. what would you recommend mr.rump to do right now, come clean on all his relations with russia or fight it out? >> oh, he won't do that. he's going to fight it out and stonewall. that's exactly what's going to happen. the interesting thing is -- >> but it's not all necessarily criminal if you look at it from a certain perspective. you could argue he's just trying to save the country by bringing peace to the middle east through russia's hands and joining us in helping us end the fight in syria. i mean he can argue that. >> it will be interesting to see how the prosecution team eventually actually deals with flynn. i don't really agree with you that he's worried about his exposure in terms of jail time. >> flynn? >> flynn. i think he's motivated by revenge. you know, he treated the obama people that way when they fired him, and now he's been hung out to dry by the trump people. i think as a prosecutor, i would be appealing to that desire of his to get his reputation back. he's been destroyed. he's discredited. he ha

mr. trump is the first president since richard nixon to refuse to release his returns and say prepare foright on tax policy. >>> national parks week. admission is free to all the countries more than 400 national parks over the weekend. this weekend and next weekend. the promotion comes as several groups call for congress to free up more than $12 billion to make repairs at parks across the country. the repairs have been put off for years. for example, nearly $50 million of renovations are needed at independence national parks in philadelphia alone. >>> it is a sign of the season. harbor park opening on may 12th. the season is kicking off with a weekend-long festival. the park opens at 11:00 that friday morning with live entertainment starting at 7:00. so great down there. peaceful. a great site in philadelphia. >>> easter flowers in bloom. nbc 10 on broad street philly. temperatures just where you need them to be. >> great weather for this holiday weekend. right, glenn? >> absolutely. an incredible day today. still is. a lot of sunshine. temperatures above average. average 63. we're 67 now

nixon, andclipten. so a record low approval rating. but mr. trump's base is standing by him. what do you make of those numbers? what might they signal, do you think? >> you pointed out two important ones. on it's super low. here's what i think. it was enough to barely get him elected, but it's not enough to get his agenda through congress. people in congress just aren't that scared of him. and so initial those numbers go up, you know, he's going to have trouble accomplishing very much. >> yeah, we'll be watching that of course. another point i wanted to raise with you. an earlier state department blog seemeds to trump mar-a-lago estate. all of those things that have reared their head for the trump administration, what does it mean? >>ries marry, they've got to stop this. the president should not be an infomercial. the two sons are now talking about a big expansion of their domestic hotel business and other parts of the trump empire. it's embarrassing. it's just a little unseemly. president's a really big job. maybe you should stick to these things one at a time. >> okay, last

mr. dean. greekt you.: thank the river is why richard nixon reated the e.p.a., our friends from the right howled, said it would cripple the economy, it would ill jobs, industry be dead. american innovation would give our d go home, instead economy has grown 360% in real adjusted terms since that was created. we have built in this country, economy in the history of the world while protecting our air, our water, our lands, that is what we need to be about. oversight is ublic essential to the function of modern economy and as a matter greatest job killer in our country's history was lack of responsible oversight in street that caused the financial collapse in 2008 that ed to the decade of stagnation that myron referenced earlier. when the independent ongressional commission reviewed the collapse of our financial system in 2008, they ame back and said, the centuries were not on their post. we don't want that to happen to our health.ent and host: you get the last word. uest: the kind of exaggeration and extremism of the environmental movement is why so have been turned off about the environmental move now opp

mr. spock says, you know, it's an old vulcan proverb that only nixon can go to china.hat word actually came from america ao. mao is the originator of that phrase. he said only nixon can do from the right what the man on the left cannot. so you had nixon, the anti-communist, go to china and back and tell the american people, all right, this is in your interest, and they believed him because nobody would ever accuse dick nixon of being soft on communism. he also had what i found was fascinating, he wrote this article in foreign affairs magazine before he ever took office in which he talks about this revolution that is coming. you know, it's coming in the countries in the pacific rim like singapore and the philippines and japan. and it's going to be all about computers and independent creativity. and so he had this ability in 19, this was 1967 to look far in the future and see what was going on. and the only way i can forgive him for keeping the vietnam conflict going on as long as it could is i think that part of him believed that he needed to buy time for these fledglin

nixon again in the interviews, he got 60,000 ofance for "six crises" which 20,000 paid to one of the several aides that has helped him. dreyfus corporation? >> the dreyfus corporation, he was friends with mrdreyfuss and his first name escapes me. more interesting thing to that one is i am preparing a speech i have to give in boston at fenway park and it is supposed to be about nixon. nick them was at this huge sports fan. there was at this instance in the midst of the watergate crisis were a reporter asks him who he thinks the greatest players of all time are and nixon pulls out all the books with all the batting averages and he makes not one list but to lists. what is before integration and the other is after integration. after baseball was integrated by his one-time good friend jackie robinson. him,r thompson, who hated the gonzo writer who hated nixon once it did a car ride in his limousine with an and they talked football the whole time and that afternoon and in the next dispatch thompson wrote he is not a bad guy. he really knows what linebackers do and what versus a good linebacker and a good safety. he seems to have mellowed. nixon and sports is fascinating. he would have been far

nixon in a great exchange with dan rather. >> are you running for something? [ laughter ] >> no, sir, mr. president. are you?4 snap. >> 1974 burn. >> but donald trump, he lives off that. that back and forth that you can do with a reporter. >> that's exactly what he lives off. he wants to pull the media into the mud with him. that's what he wants to do. to kurt's point, investigate, investigate, investigate. so i think that, when you are dealing with donald trump, he is one of the most media savvy people to ever occupy the oval office. and people shouldn't forget that. and responding to every tweet, responding to everything, it allows him to be out front and to control the narrative. it also distracts, as kurt referenced, from all the things going on, all the important things that need to be reported. that is not lost on donald trump. >> quickly, when you were on the apprentice, did you ever think you were looking at a future president? >> i did not, no. it was interesting to see how his positions have shifted since those days as well. >> do you miss him, do you miss working with him on the show? >> no, i do

nixon was in the white house. >> would you be surprised that that was not my statement? that was a statement of your colleague mr. love and -- your colleague. i will not yield. >> you are afraid of my answer. >> the language is explicit and unambiguous. he may have his moment when he has his moment. >> i give my time back. >> you may have the last word. >> earlier this month, on an amendment that i offered, the committee offered for a second time along party lines to continue covering up president trump's tax returns. it is apparent that this will be the third time i think the committee has barely struck out on this issue. every president with rare exception for years, for decades has provided this information and while we have a fundamental disagreement about what these tax returns might show and why they should be shown to the american people, i think one thing we should be able to agree on anonymously -- unanimously is that we have never had a president quite like president trump. mr. chairman, i would say that the cover up eventually will be uncovered. it is a question of how long this process will go a long

nixon show saw you on the ed sullivan show that you were superb. if you ever run for public office you will win because you are a winner because mrs. they said knows these things. of course he was talking about himself and his own judgment. not long after they spend a weekend together, they went for a charitable event in eastern texas. they barricaded themselves in a hotel suite and spent hours together talking geopolitics. and trump fire questions at him and wanted to know about the russians, the chinese, really and around the world to her. the men headed off and it was nixon who first saw the potential for a trump presidency. i wanted him to run as early as 1988. i was president of his exploratory committee in 2000. i was working in 2012. but in what respect, 2016 was the right year. i think it was the perfect storm. not only the tipping point have been reached for alternative media and that's an important factor. after eight years of barack obama the american people were ready for something different. in the 40 years i've been involved, i've never seen voters this angry or sour, or disillusioned. they're totally fed up with poli

mr. speaker. >> you and i are both holding oh to remember water great. that was a physical break and if i campaign headquarters and only people going to jail and richard nixonigning from the presidency. this is the equivalent of an electronic watergate. electronically eavesdropping on the transition team for the other party after they won the election. apparently, the national security advisor was requesting it. if it is not illegal, it sure should be illegal. this is insanity. you cannot have the instrument of the government used to eavesdrop on your opponents without enormous long-term destruction. >> bill: that's a pretty bold assessment. you say that susan rice, then the national security advisor to the president, working in the white house, you say flat out, mr. speaker, that she sought classified surveillance for political reasons. that is what you said. correct me if i am wrong. >> that is what i said. >> bill: how can you back that up? >> first of all, what they have to do is subpoena the documents, as a historian, i don't think these documents happen to show up on her desk. because somebody happened to drop by and go, "oh, susan." >> bill: the repo