this is before gaming came in, said mrs. ortner no state any chance of building a better future for their tribe, it is to maximize the land. >> section 14 became a bad slump because we didn't have leasing. so we would have some people would say you can come and be on my land. so then it became very congested and it is not a good day. >> host: >> sco may face a parcel for arboriculture purposes come you get a clientele that's not going to stay long. they don't put enough in to make it really develop. just imagine if somebody is only in your property for five years, they bring trailers are they bring a tent. they are not going to bring substantial property investment into the land and same thing if they are planning trees or other types of crops, and they are not going to take it as seriously as if he put the long term investment and until he put infrastructure and a not so somebody was not willing to do. people say well, we could develop palm springs, but we don't have access to the laws. in her case, she wanted to change that and s