there is a cute line where folks would often say about mrs. polk, they would say mrs. olk is a master of herself and we all expect of someone else too. there's also a cute line that i found in an old diary where someone said they went to the white house and were meeting with all the dignitaries and the polks and said the best political conversation was with olk, dot, dot, dot, mrs. polk. washington and abigail madison were influential. one said he could -- madison could be defeated, james madison could be defeated if only it wasn't for dolly. so first ladies have had that kind of influence. it's almost as i said impossible, naive to think they wouldn't have some informal influence but they do not have any formal role or formal duty beyond what any citizen would have. like i said, an ability to introduce laws or pass executive orders and things of that effect. host: we'll have one more call for this segment. joe from west chester, pennsylvania. caller: good morning, professor watson. i just wanted to call and i was kind of forced to call after the gentleman from arkansas

i think mrs. polk is a big one. great deal of influence in his success. > dolly madison. somebody who was the first to bring together the role as social partner with the role of political partner. james was a very shy person. dolly was very outgoing. she was his p.r. person. she was quite skilled at it. very politically savvy woman. she would use, under the guise of entertaining, she would use that to lobby people for what his policies were and very uccessfully. >> i'm going to ask you to think about this and we will take a few calls. among the first ladies and their spouses, which had the greatest love story? let's listen to marry in philadelphia at what you think about that answer. >> thank you for taking my call. my question is for the panel through the series we have learned so much about the first ladies through their letters. they have given us insight on who they are as people, their lives in the white house, and the role in history. going forward, how would historians write the modern first lady story? will they be using their twitter accounts,s that i facebook ac

there are speeches where mrs. polk's handwriting is in the margin.she clipped newspaper articles for him to read. she is a master of herself and we expect that of someone else to. there is a cute line i found an old diary were someone said they went to the white house and were meeting with the dignitaries and the best political conversation polk. was with mrs. he could -- madison could be defeated if it were not for dolly. first ladies of had that kind of influence. it is naive to think they wouldn't have any informal influence. they don't have any formal role or formal duty beyond what any citizen would have. they cannot pass executive orders were introduced laws. host: we'll have one more call. joe from west chester, pennsylvania. caller: good morning. , i waswant to call forced to call after the job from arkansas called. iwanted to say that appreciated the way you handle that call. i just wished i had a history professor as enjoyable as you are this morning. i think i would've retained a lot more history. that is all i have to say. guest: thank yo

mr. robins you care to comment. >> thank you jerry robins of the sustainable streets. we feel this is adequate proposal that there is a very wide lane on eastbound grove street approaching polk street and the gentleman's concern could be addressed even if the right turn lane is removed >> and further i noticed there toronto is correct from polk to larkin it's blocked when their events at the bill graham but in this case, the turn lane could be used. the main emphasis is we have reserveable bows on this right turn lane this proposal is aimed at making that intersection much safer to cross and this has been vetted with the muni in terms of the 21 grove so i think it's a good proposal >> mr. rogers motion? >> second. >> all in favor, say i. opposed? you guys have it secretary boomer. >> okay item presentation and discussion of the fiscal 2014-2015 and 2015-2016 and possible changes to fairs and a fees and charges and possible revenue sources and a revenue expenditure reduction and the 2015-2016 budget. >> mr. chair this is the first of two public hearings the point hat which is to hear from the public and the board. we do have a shorter version of the presentation we gave on fe

mr. robins you care to comment. >> thank you jerry robins of the sustainable streets. we feel this is adequate proposal that there is a very wide lane on eastbound grove street approaching polk street and the gentleman's concern could be addressed even if the right turn lane is removed >> and further i noticed there toronto is correct from polk to larkin it's blocked when their events at the bill graham but in this case, the turn lane could be used. the main emphasis is we have reserveable bows on this right turn lane this proposal is aimed at making that intersection much safer to cross and this has been vetted with the muni in terms of the 21 grove so i think it's a good proposal