mrs. richard helms. she was more than that. that was important said every human being once their own identity. we will begin with their service in world war ii. growing up on the southeast coast of england and for the millennium that part had been invaded by vikings. the people of that area were acutely aware of the nazi threat because it was in the dna that they were vulnerable to invaders. she listed in the women's royal naval service as an issue was 18. my first question is tell us why did you in less? what drives you as a teenager to become a member of the women's royal naval service? >> guest: i was sent to the west coast when the war broke out. it was 1938 with war in 1939. we were very a vulnerable. there were bombings but my parents sent me to the west coast with an elderly alkyl who was a naval officer. his son was in france when they collapsed in his other son committed suicide because he lost all of his money in the financial crisis. by live with him for about one year and he would ride his bicycle in the morning loo

mrs. richard helms, she was more than that and that comes through in this book and that is an important thing that every human being wants their own identity. we are going to begin today with our discussion with her service during world war ii. cynthia helms grew up on the southeast coast of england which is part of the island closest the continent and for the millennium that part of england had been invaded by vikings and you name it and the people in that area were acutely aware of the threats of the nazis, more than anyone else because it was in their dna that they were vulnerable to invaders. she enlisted in the women's royal naval service exactly as soon as she could come as soon as she turned 18 and was legally eligible. my first question is tell us, why did you enlist and what was driving you as a teenager to become a member of the women's royal naval service, and tell us about being a boat crew which is very special. >> i was sent to the west coast by my parents when war broke out. peace in our time was 1938 and the work came in 1939 and our area was very vulnerable so after a few mon

mr. gordon details iraq war from 2003 until the withdrawal in 2012. at 11:00 p.m., cindy helms recounting her life as the wife of richard helms. he died in 2002. watch a couple of interviews from the university of pennsylvania. first at 1:00 p.m. eastern, we will talk to richard ellis about why government programs don't work and a blueprint for change. at 1:15 p.m. we will hear from