mrs. tavis can be reconciled. -- maybe that can be reconciled. commissioner garcia: the permit does not ask to legalize what is done, and therefore, cfc could not have -- that is more reasonable to me, as the question was asked by vice president goh about the moving of the sink and toilet, i think it has been stipulated that they did that, prior to getting the permit. you do not have 30 seconds or one second unless the president wants you to comment on it. i am onboard for changing the findings or on board for whatever. if i am the one he made the motion to reopen, i mean to vote, because i would withdraw that. i thought maybe you had done that. commissioner fung: can you restate that? commissioner hwang: if we can narrow the issue, that be more efficient. my focus is whether or not there was a valid permit. and this goes to work being done prior. vice president goh: if we went ahead and voted and went ahead and voted tonight, i am not sure if that means that commissioner garcia would change his vote in vote to overturn or not, because now we hav

mr. smiley. tavis: let me start with the question of the democrats and how or if in fact they can get their mojo back. you have been around for years in politics, so you've seen these kinds of ads and flows. what strikes you about what has happened and democrats -- to democrats in november? >> i think the democratic party must define the future in terms that the american people can understand. there is a sense in this country that we are stagnant, that we are if anything moving in circles and not forward. not only for our generation but for our children and future what my party has to do, and indeed all of those in public office, is construct a narrative that explains to the american people how investment today profits this country in the future and offers us more hope and promise, and that investment must first of all be in our people and particularly in our done a people, their education and their health. that is the backbone of the country. we have to invest in infrastructure, in our transportation

tavis: thank you, mr. mathis. kudos to my research team. r reads 2010, here is the amazing part, october to be exact, 2010, and you are still with columbia records. >> isn't that amazing? tavis: that is unheard of. nobody in this business stays with the same record company from 1956 until 2010. how was that possible? >> i don't know. the company has changed. i must have gone through 16 or 20 different presidents. tavis: at least. >> and of course all of the other people who support their artists. it is -- i don't know. i am lucky. tavis: why from 1956 until 2010 did it take you this long to figure out that you are good enough to record some country- western? >> i think most people are of a mind that the really big country hits, not the performances by these iconic people -- the performances by these iconic people, you cannot really do any better. but i had recorded some music, country music, over the years, but never gone to national and sat in with all of the other guitar players and what have you. it was a great experience for me, i loved

tavis: on the vietnam question. not expedientght, or popular or plays to one's vanity, but if it is right, you have to do it. maybe someone will say, mr. jones, being president, you have to be pragmatic. pragmatism has some limits. do you know what they are? morality. tavis: i could do this for hours. i still feel like i have not done justice to the article. if you go to "the huffington post," you can read the article that clarence b. jones wrote. found its way from the internet onto the pages of the new york times. people are talking about what will happen with progressives in 2012, given the disappointment that many have, particularly with the president caving in on the bush era tax cuts. >> it is not about anger or punishing. it is about accountability. it was really about when yo ulovu love someone, you speak to them. you hold them accountable. tavis: up next, legendary talk show host dick cavett. stay with us. tavis: welcome dick cavett back to this program. he is a three-time emmy winner. if you read this book, you know that he is far more proud of being a nebraska state gymnastic champion. i get love for that? >> who haven they

tavis: over the last year we have had everybody from mr. goshedy, the -- mr. gordy, the chairman, to lionel, and now we close this year with stevie wonder, motown 50. we all know that motown would not have turned 50 without little stevie wonder. when you look back on that 50-year journey, what do you make of your contribution to motown as we know it 50 years later? >> well, i don't know. i mean, to me it's an amazing story. just the story of berry gordy who needed $750-some dollars to do this record that he did and going to new york and working with, you know, jackie wilson, working with barrett strong, writing some great songs back then, obviously meeting smokey robinson and what a great songwriter/lyricist he is. and think of the contribution that he's made to american music. i don't know, i just feel, again, it's a blessing. the way it all started for me was outside playing with my friends. i heard these kids playing some git ars a little ways away, and i wanted to go where they were. and my mother had a rule, obviously that, i couldn't go across the street

tavis: it is a deep and dense texture. because there is so much data in this book, what is the home front for you and mr. campbell that americans will take away? >> we try to provide a description -- tavis: you did a very good job of that, by the way. >> we hope to have not a distorting mirror, but an actual mirror. we are all americans and we are much more tolerant of what each other -- of one another is that we might think. tavis: if your of all fascinated by religion in this country, it is called "american grace the " good have you on this program. up next, nassim taleb. tavis: nassim taleb is a professional engineer at nyu. "the black swan" was an international best-seller. his latest is called "the bed of procrustes the " good to have you back on the program. -- procrustes." good to have you back on the program. you talked about this diet from the media. tell me about that diet. >> i stopped reading the papers and watching t.v. about 20 years ago and my life improved a lot. but then, people and let me go on television and i realized it was influencing the way i behave. i was afraid of not being invit

mr. brokaw, as always, an honor to have you on this program. >> tavis, it's always a pleasure to be with you. >> this special, as i mentioned, ties in neatly to the beginning of the civil rights movement 50 years ago and yet this documentary is really not about race. so tell me what it is about. >> well, i think it's about a lot of anxiety in this country and what i call the fault lines of america that have been exacerbated by the uncertainty about the direction of the country and certainly by the economic dislocation. we really profile four different kinds of discrimination, which you just saw. there are refugee children, most of them children of color, who have come here. they have been resettled by organizations like the international rescue committee, the state department and others. these are people we liberated from iraq, helped get out of sudan, out of cuba, out of ethiopia, out of thailand. we take enormous pride in that and when we bring them here, there are some americans who don't exactly roll out the welcome mat. these young people have been subjected to terrible racial slurs

mr. president. you can call me colonel. i got the title fighting in the spanish-american war. i got it in battle. it is an honorable title. you can call me colonel. tavis: i love how you phrase the statement that he decided to leave the white house and he did. there were those who thought and hoped he would run for a third term and he believed he would have won. which leads me to ask, whether or not -- he did not want to be president. did he enjoyed being president? >> he loved it. he did run for a third term. what you are referring to is when he was president, in 19008 -- 1908, he was offered a third term and he pushed it away at the moment when he wanted it. the sense of finite power. if he felheld onto power too lo, it would begin to correct him, he fell. having spent four years away from the white house, he wanted to get back in. >> he did run for a third term and a man consecutively. let's talk about the point you made. he ran as a third-party candidate. talk to me about this third party. i want to make some parallels to the tea party. >> the parallels occurred to me also a few weeks ago. he did win the republican nomination in 1912. he was a repu