mrs. thalo had not one, not five, not ten, 15 children. 15. 15. good home. she did not keep all of them in here at one time because it would have been like the old lady living in the shoe. the youngest ones were upstairs. they had a tutor and their classes upstairs. mrs. thalo's mother would come and stay in one of the room whfers her daughter was lying in, which she was very frequently. what did they do with the other kids? they in a sense figuratively farmed them out. they had this wonderful plantation mount air yi, also designed by thornton in virginia. you take older ones who could learn about farming, et cetera, out there and you could also introduce them to the young swains and young dam sells and hope they would intermarry into other very important family. this all sounds very familiar, doesn't it? that increases your revenue and whatever. the nursery was there. and on the other side of that would be his wardrobe. he would be in his office, where we will go shortly, where president madison did his work so he's working in his short sleeves or his under