mrs. thatcher was determined not have a deal. yet, as i shoe -- show in the book she made big concessions along the way. making the calculation she had to do that in order satisfy world opinion and hoping against hope that the times wouldn't be clever enough to accept it. that hope proved correct. it came late that the united states as they put tilted to britain. and it was always a struggle. it was rarl confusing. and i think without extremely close relationship it would have been harder. she was able to get on the phone to him and talk him through it. and because of her more active grasp for detail which was the big thing. he was a bit of a disadvantage when it was a direct phone conversation. because she would have ever fact sitting in her head. and sometimes his age would discourage the cfghtses. because they thought it would be worse for him. it all worked out beautifully. the british won flat out tremendous american corporation and a great surge of good feeling between the two country. but it wasn't -- >> host: people like

the times also detailed the protests named after mrs thatcher's famous news conference rejection of the proposals of the new items stolen the ira's brighton bomb in october nineteen eighty four almost kills margaret thatcher and also almost e mails top secret i know are these talks on the future of the north. this is dr wrote that the events of brighton mean don't we must go very slow on these talks if not stop them. it would look as if we were bones into making concessions to the republicans. the secret british papers released today also showed that she believes the brighton bomb was only the first of the series. but foreign second to get the are set to continue the talks in order to stop the rise of shinn fein. otherwise he warned her fear of the cuban like government of radical extremists and dublin could become a reality. the irish were looking for a role in governing the north in return for which jack fitzgerald was prepared to hold a referendum to remove the constitutional claims in northern ottens mrs thatcher refused to consider anything suggesting joint british artist and tone

economy for its citizens acts and eighty f and show and it's a commonsense approach a cafe down that mr thatcher can't thank you very much anti fence line. he allows the team on its own processing key intending to around twenty to nineteen with a week and the third day of clashes left of the seventy police wounded on that number has since doubled. most suffered head injuries standings and has poisoning and the one else in the eu chance to find unbiased by saying it was provided by the ukrainian authorities. the exams and not reason and threatening to nationalist as ukraine's government has shown a lot of patients with price has said that would have been just passed in the war in any european or american seats the authorities issued a stroll in any patients in this matter there is absolutely no conceivable way that this sort the situation would have been allowed to happen in any other european states the morning will remain united states the authority to come down and hits the moment that the government that the greatest into this matter it stood the test is. he reads this blog heel position in t

mrs. thatcher did not know history in any accurate way in did not have a strong historical mind but she had a strong romantic a sense of history of britain and, like churchill, the english speaking people. and she has some idea to my romantic idea of the destiny of these people. this is really important. and i think the key to thatcherism is to do with an idea that only as doing something new, but a restoration, restoring certain values which are key to a western english speaking, particularly english speaking civilizations. churchill, nelson, it the first -- the accuracy, but it was very real, both true, and quite personal in their mind. she knew vast chunks by heart. she is a romantic patriot as well as a rational communist. it. >> host: this is volume one. when can we expect to see it? >> i don't like being asked to tell you. so much so do. quite a lot, but there is more to do. i very much hope that, you know, within two years -- i don't like to put a precise time on it. >> what kind of working routine the you have? >> a regular one. i write and pile up and right. sometimes i might not b

mrs. thatcher or tony blair would say they just left defense and foreign policy decisions to their secretary of state. and only occasionally intervened. i think the history -- history as a bilateralds thing between a prime minister and a foreign secretary or prime minister and a defense secretary. the good thing is that it's a more collective way of making decisions. of course, there are decisions made by ministers. you talk about the decisions -- for instance, how we went about our engagement in libya and the decisions we made about syria, they were genuinely discussed around the table with those ministers, with the expert advice and another point, i think a better institutionalization of the legal advice. the attorney general is there to give his opinion about these things. if you're asking, are there times when the n.s.c. comes to a different decision what the defense secretary or prime minister walked into the room, yes, it has. that's what collective decisionmaking is all about. >> we'd like to ask a series of questions on how the system actually works in practice. and you mentioned syr

thatcher, barack obama. >> it is a tough job. the pen is mightier than the sword. >> here is the cover that you did. mr. president, something -- where do you come up with the concept on a drawing like this? talking about bill clinton? >> 140 covers for the economist over the years and 4,000 cartoons. here is a different process. the cover i am working with the editors because they have a lead story of the day. they often call me on monday and say we are thinking of this, i will feed them some ideas and when i sign off i have 36 hours to complete the project. when i do my political cartoons it is more like a column, my own it on a story of a week and coming up with an idea and i present that to them. >> how do you prepare? >> one of the things about being a political cartoonist which i like to think is different from my other journalistic colleagues is i have to cover local cartoons, national and international, the world is my oyster. ..