as you can see, or if you have not met mrs. weber, you know that she is not a small woman. very tall. so you see why we all came out like that. everybody here -- i believe you have worked with her, or as we call her, madear. inside, it is a different story. where we came from, we did not have a lot of males around, but as you can see, she has raised a whole lot of them, and everybody is doing good, and everybody would like to thank you all for everything you have done and for allowing the name to continue on like that. so thank you very much. [applause] >> i am just going to pick it up. in the great-grandof

mr. shaller who was the owner of shaller and weber meats, an old sort of, you know, well-known german meat packing company. and i spoke to the caretaker, he said, yeah, it sounds interesting, and i'll check. and he checked and said, yeah, we'd like to talk about it. of course, they didn't know what they were talking about. but they never used the place except for hunting. and so i said, great, you know, we have a site. and we thought, you know, we would offer $5,000, and we'd be off and running. so in the meantime, through an attorney i was using we met with john and joel, john roberts and joel rosierman to finance the studio idea because they were building a studio in new york called media sound which for years was one of the premier studios in the city. so we went to meet them, and they were, you know, very yuppiish and nothing like me and a little like artie, i guess, on the fringes. so i kept my mouth shut, and artie did all the talking. and he talks very well. and they seemed, you know, interested but not really, you know, convinced. and at the end of the conversation i think i may ha