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wade about his relationship with mrs. willis that you only had one such conversation during the time you represented mr. wade? >> one conversation of what? i apologize. it broke up. >> the only thing i'm asking about is that area that the court said is not privileged, which is the relationship between mr. wade and mrs. willis. you've testified that during the time you represented mr. wade from 2018 on, that you only had one conversation with him in reference to the relationship between mrs. willis and mr. wade. is that correct? >> yeah, i think that's fairly accurate, yes. >> so out of the entire time, talking about could be 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, when did you stop representing mr. wade? >> it was a few months after i left the firm. >> all right. give me an approximate time. >> i left maybe june, july of 2022, maybe. >> okay. so that would suggest for assuming it's 2018, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 and half of 2022, which is in the vicinity of 4 to 4 1/2 years, you're testifying under oath you had one conversation about a relationsh
wade about his relationship with mrs. willis that you only had one such conversation during the time you represented mr. wade? >> one conversation of what? i apologize. it broke up. >> the only thing i'm asking about is that area that the court said is not privileged, which is the relationship between mr. wade and mrs. willis. you've testified that during the time you represented mr. wade from 2018 on, that you only had one conversation with him in reference to the relationship...
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mr. wade about him and ms. willis. mr. sadow: is it your testimony there was not any other conversation, or you do not remember any conversation? ? >> objection. judge mcafee: overruled. mr. bradley: i don't recall, i would say it was the one, but i don't recall. mr. sadow: you testified you did have communications with mr. wade about him visiting with ms. willis at a condo or apartment, correct? mr. bradley: i don't think i testified i had a conversation, i testified that any knowledge i would have known anything about any condo would have come from that, but i don't recall any conversation about that. i do not recall the conversation about that. mr. sadow: do you recall any of the thing at this point in time, under oath, that would indicate when the relationship started between mr. wade and ms. willis? mr. bradley: i do not know when the relationship started between mr. wade and ms. willis. i cannot recall. mr. sadow: i'm going to drill down on that, ok? mr. bradley: yes, sir. mr. sadow: mr. wade was hired as the special
mr. wade about him and ms. willis. mr. sadow: is it your testimony there was not any other conversation, or you do not remember any conversation? ? >> objection. judge mcafee: overruled. mr. bradley: i don't recall, i would say it was the one, but i don't recall. mr. sadow: you testified you did have communications with mr. wade about him visiting with ms. willis at a condo or apartment, correct? mr. bradley: i don't think i testified i had a conversation, i testified that any knowledge i...
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mr. wade and willis? >> i do not know when the relationship started between mr. wade and ms willis? i cannot recall that i can't i'm sorry. go ahead >> i'm going to drill down on that now. okay. >> yes, sir >> mr. wade was hired as the special prosecutor on november 1 of 2021. you're aware of that that correct? >> i have my contracts to show when i started, no one showed me the contract of when he started, but so but if if he has a contract for november 1, 2021, then that's correct. >> all right right i'm. gonna i'm gonna suggest to you that the record will reflect that the contract between this willis and mr. wade was november 1 of 2021, correct i want you to just to accept that. okay? >> is it your testimony that you don't know under oath whether or not there was a relationship between mr. wade and ms willis before the contract? >> i do not recall any dates of when the of when relationship started. so whether you are pinpointing a date of when his contract started or not. i'm telling you i did not recall any specific date that he flat out said anything about a relationship with ms
mr. wade and willis? >> i do not know when the relationship started between mr. wade and ms willis? i cannot recall that i can't i'm sorry. go ahead >> i'm going to drill down on that now. okay. >> yes, sir >> mr. wade was hired as the special prosecutor on november 1 of 2021. you're aware of that that correct? >> i have my contracts to show when i started, no one showed me the contract of when he started, but so but if if he has a contract for november 1, 2021,...
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mr. wade and miss willis. you've testified that during the time you represented mr. wade, from 2018 on, that you only had one conversation with him in reference to the relationship between miss willis and mr. wade. is that correct? >> yeah, i think that's fairly accurate. yes. >> so out of the entire time, it could be 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021. when did you stop representing mr. wade? >> it was a few months after i left the firm. >> give me a approximate time. >> i left maybe june, july of 2022, maybe. >> okay. so that would suggest that for assuming it's 2018, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, and half of 2022, which is in the vicinity of four to four and a half years, you're testifying under oath you had one conversation about a relationship between mr. wade and miss willis. is that correct? >> i don't recall having any other conversation with mr. wade about him and miss willis. >> is it your testimony then that you don't remember any other conversation or there wasn't any other conversation besides the one? >> going to object. asked and answered. >> i think it's a fair question
mr. wade and miss willis. you've testified that during the time you represented mr. wade, from 2018 on, that you only had one conversation with him in reference to the relationship between miss willis and mr. wade. is that correct? >> yeah, i think that's fairly accurate. yes. >> so out of the entire time, it could be 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021. when did you stop representing mr. wade? >> it was a few months after i left the firm. >> give me a approximate time. >> i...
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willis and mr. wade met in a conference in october of 2019. >> i object to that for how this witness would know that. if miss merchant shay has personal information about that that's something the witness can testify to. >> all right, miss merchant. lay the foundation. >> do you have information that ms. willis and mr. wade met in october of 2019? >> renew my objection. information is not personal information. if the question can be rephrased it may address my concern. >> i want to make sure i understand. they have objected to me calling willis and wade. >> just a matter of foundation, just rephrase. >> do you have knowledge of when willis and wade met? >> object again. personal knowledge. >> overruled. >> thank you. >> do you have personal knowledge of when willis and wade met? >> yes. she told me they met at a conference. i don't know what conference. >> renew my objection. this is not information from this witness. hearsay that was -- >> she said she told me. >> statement against interest, judge.
willis and mr. wade met in a conference in october of 2019. >> i object to that for how this witness would know that. if miss merchant shay has personal information about that that's something the witness can testify to. >> all right, miss merchant. lay the foundation. >> do you have information that ms. willis and mr. wade met in october of 2019? >> renew my objection. information is not personal information. if the question can be rephrased it may address my concern....
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mr. willis and excuse me, that ms willis and mr. wade rule >> we didn't discuss how we were going to handle testimony of my question was, when you were discussing with ms willis in the conference room when you were discussing? what you perceive to be the situation concerning the benefits for the payments? yes, sir. >> was there anyone else present? no, sir. >> how long did the meeting take >> probably five or ten minutes >> if ms willis tell you what she was going to say? >> no, sir. >> did you ask her whether she had any bank withdrawals? it would corroborate the assertion that that she would pay you back and large sums of cash for these these trips to the caribbean believes california on and on and on. >> your honor, i object the processor of when the last mental projection was made was that mr. guillen needed to know who else is there are these? he witnesses that you can cross examine. that question, hasn't answered. >> okay. >> i think it's still exploring possible bias or motive to shape his testimony. so overrule on that ground
mr. willis and excuse me, that ms willis and mr. wade rule >> we didn't discuss how we were going to handle testimony of my question was, when you were discussing with ms willis in the conference room when you were discussing? what you perceive to be the situation concerning the benefits for the payments? yes, sir. >> was there anyone else present? no, sir. >> how long did the meeting take >> probably five or ten minutes >> if ms willis tell you what she was going...
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i asked you who knew. >> answer it and explain, mrs. willis. >> i'm very private. when i supervised mr. body and mr. mcafee, they didn't know who i was dating. but i was dating somebody. i kept something private, that's my private life. it's not any mystery to anyone. it's like a woman doesn't have the right to keep her private life private. i'm speaking on this because there's been all of these intimations. >> you still didn't answer the question. >> i'm sorry. what was the question. >> is there anyone else that knew about it. then you can explain. >> i don't know. i don't think so. i certainly didn't go out telling my business to the world. >> so the best of your recollection, you didn't inform anyone on the prosecution team that the individual that you had chosen to lead the prosecution team had a personal relationship with you? is that corrected? >> that's inaccurate. your question is inaccurate. >> what is -- >> you stated that the personal i chose, we had a personal relationship. so we had a friendship. we have all of these distinguishing factors. when i chose
i asked you who knew. >> answer it and explain, mrs. willis. >> i'm very private. when i supervised mr. body and mr. mcafee, they didn't know who i was dating. but i was dating somebody. i kept something private, that's my private life. it's not any mystery to anyone. it's like a woman doesn't have the right to keep her private life private. i'm speaking on this because there's been all of these intimations. >> you still didn't answer the question. >> i'm sorry. what was...
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. >> mrs. willis? >> i never -- my only interaction with mrs. willis was never where i would pick up the phone and talk to her or that she would -- or anything like that. >> so you didn't hang out with mrs. willis? you didn't have a personal relationship with her? >> i never had a personal relationship. i mentioned before, i went to a dinner that was after she was elected. that was at a steakhouse. it was some 75 to 100 people there. >> you knew of her. you didn't have a business or personal relationship with her or at least a close one? >> i knew of her from my -- she was in the da's office. i had criminal cases. but i did not personally know her, no. >> not having known her, not really hanging out with her, you've got a contract from her office. >> i'm going to just object as to cumulative, asked and answered. >> i think we covered this ground on the 16th about the contracts. do you have -- are you going somewhere else with this? >> i am, judge. if you give me latitude. >> you may proceed. >> you got a contract from the office not knowing -- or
. >> mrs. willis? >> i never -- my only interaction with mrs. willis was never where i would pick up the phone and talk to her or that she would -- or anything like that. >> so you didn't hang out with mrs. willis? you didn't have a personal relationship with her? >> i never had a personal relationship. i mentioned before, i went to a dinner that was after she was elected. that was at a steakhouse. it was some 75 to 100 people there. >> you knew of her. you didn't...
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willis and mr. weighed coming to your office in security details following that, do you recall that? >> let me look at my phone. >> i think i did. >> do you recall security taking ms. willis to your office. >> i object to that. >> answer the question. >> i do recall security detail bringing ms. willis to my office. >> do you recall when that was? >> i do not. >> was that on more than one occasion? >> i remember two occasions. >> can you tell me about those. >> i can't remember when they were. [indiscernible] >> i don't know if she had security detail before she was d.a. or sworn in. i don't remember the dates. but i do remember -- i think she was d.a. >> during her transition period? >> no. it wasn't -- trying no, it wasn't -- trying to remember. she would have had to have been the d.a., i think. and i don't want to go i think, but i do remember twice her coming to our office, correct. >> and she had a security team both of those times? >> there was a -- yes. she had a security team with her. >> ok.
willis and mr. weighed coming to your office in security details following that, do you recall that? >> let me look at my phone. >> i think i did. >> do you recall security taking ms. willis to your office. >> i object to that. >> answer the question. >> i do recall security detail bringing ms. willis to my office. >> do you recall when that was? >> i do not. >> was that on more than one occasion? >> i remember two occasions. >>...
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mr. willis -- excuse me, mr. wade, when you were having this discussion, did you ask her -- did you ask ms. willis do you have anything to support these cash withdrawals? >> no, sir. >> did you ask her where she got the cash? >> this is the conversation. i produced my credit card statement that showed what ms. merchant in her filing was representing. that was the conversation. >> okay. so when she would pay you back in cash, were you aware of what her financial situation was? do you know what- >> no, sir. >> your honor, i object to the relevance. >> well, your honor, it's relevant because we have been bombarded with a book find me the votes in which -- >> what's at issue is the financial benefit and if that plays a material interest in an actual conflict of interest, so i think that's relevant. >> now, have you read the book "find me the votes"? >> i have. >> you have? >> i have. >> okay. now, in that book, ms. willis is telling the authors about how financially destitute she was or kind of hitting down on the bot
mr. willis -- excuse me, mr. wade, when you were having this discussion, did you ask her -- did you ask ms. willis do you have anything to support these cash withdrawals? >> no, sir. >> did you ask her where she got the cash? >> this is the conversation. i produced my credit card statement that showed what ms. merchant in her filing was representing. that was the conversation. >> okay. so when she would pay you back in cash, were you aware of what her financial situation...
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mr. willis -- mr. wade and miss willis meeting at the evans office together?> object to asked and answered. >> we haven't had an evens answer. >> his answer may change. >> tip him off how to answer the question. >> i can't recall what the conversation was. i do -- i do recall knowing that they would -- that he would go down to the office or had been down to the office but i can't tell you in what capacity or when or any of that, no. >> mr. wade told you that they had sex at that office, though, correct? >> i don't recall him stating that, no. >> you don't recall it. >> no. >> so it's possible he did say that. >> you just don't remember one way or another. >> i don't remember him saying that. >> do you recall that he had a garage door opener to either a house or condo or something like that of miss willis's? >> i've never seen a garage door opener. i've never been to miss willis's house. i've never been to -- i'm trying to explain. i've never been, so no, i do not have any personal knowledge of him having a garage door opener. >> i didn't ask whether you had pe
mr. willis -- mr. wade and miss willis meeting at the evans office together?> object to asked and answered. >> we haven't had an evens answer. >> his answer may change. >> tip him off how to answer the question. >> i can't recall what the conversation was. i do -- i do recall knowing that they would -- that he would go down to the office or had been down to the office but i can't tell you in what capacity or when or any of that, no. >> mr. wade told you that...
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willis and mr. weighed coming to your office in security details following that, do you recall that? >> let me look at my phone. >> i think i did. >> do you recall security taking ms. willis to your office. >> i object to that. >> answer the question. >> i do recall security detail bringing ms. willis to my office. >> do you recall when that was? >> i do not. >> was that on more than one occasion? >> i remember two occasions. >> can you tell me about those. >> i can't remember when they were. [indiscernible] >> i don't know if she had security detail before she was d.a. or sworn in. i don't remember the dates. but i do remember -- i think she was d.a. >> during her transition period? >> no. it wasn't -- trying no, it wasn't -- trying to remember. she would have had to have been the d.a., i think. and i don't want to go i think, but i do remember twice her coming to our office, correct. >> and she had a security team both of those times? >> there was a -- yes. she had a security team with her. >> ok.
willis and mr. weighed coming to your office in security details following that, do you recall that? >> let me look at my phone. >> i think i did. >> do you recall security taking ms. willis to your office. >> i object to that. >> answer the question. >> i do recall security detail bringing ms. willis to my office. >> do you recall when that was? >> i do not. >> was that on more than one occasion? >> i remember two occasions. >>...
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mr. willis -- excuse me, mr. wade, when you were having this discussion, did you ask her, did you ask miss willis, do you have anything to support these cash withdrawals? >> no, sir. >> did you ask her where she got the cash? >> here -- this is the conversation. i produced my credit card statement that showed what miss merchant in her filing was representing. that was the conversation. >> ok. so when she would pay you back in cash, were you aware of what her financial situation was? did you know what -- >> no, sir. >> your honor, i object to the relevance. >> your honor, it's relevant because we have been bombarded with a book "find me the votes." >> what's at issue is the financial benefit and if it's a material interest in conflict of interest, i think it's relevant. >> had you read the book "find me the votes." >> i have. >> you have. >> i have. >> ok. now, in that book miss willis is telling the authors about how financially destitute she was or kind of hidden down on the bottom as she was running for d.a. >>
mr. willis -- excuse me, mr. wade, when you were having this discussion, did you ask her, did you ask miss willis, do you have anything to support these cash withdrawals? >> no, sir. >> did you ask her where she got the cash? >> here -- this is the conversation. i produced my credit card statement that showed what miss merchant in her filing was representing. that was the conversation. >> ok. so when she would pay you back in cash, were you aware of what her financial...
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this is the point that mrs. willis -- >> i want to be here. i'm not a hostile witness. i very much -- >> not that you're hostile. it would be an adverse witnesses. you remember interests are opposed to mrs. merchants. >> mrs. merchant is opposed to democracy, not mine. >> let's provide. keep things moving. mrs. merchant. next question, please. >> okay. so we've confirmed when you melt. after that, isn't it -- >> i need to explain this. i get to explain my answers. when i met him, judge reeves introduced us. he handed me his business card. i'm unsure if i handed my business card. we exchanged information. he said if you ever need any help, give me a call. he walked to the parking lot. >> so after that, you started dating shortly thereafter. >> that's a lie. one of your lies. >> okay. >> do you know robin yearti? >> i know her as robin bryant. i knew her -- robin did not go to my college. she went to the college of -- i went to howard university. she went to morgan state. i met her threw people i knew. in college we hung out. not much. she was in baltimore and i was in was
this is the point that mrs. willis -- >> i want to be here. i'm not a hostile witness. i very much -- >> not that you're hostile. it would be an adverse witnesses. you remember interests are opposed to mrs. merchants. >> mrs. merchant is opposed to democracy, not mine. >> let's provide. keep things moving. mrs. merchant. next question, please. >> okay. so we've confirmed when you melt. after that, isn't it -- >> i need to explain this. i get to explain my...
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mr. willis? >> no.as like, "i do not want to do this. i don't want to." but i had to do it. >> were you scared? >> i was still scared, yeah. >> what did you do? >> i unlocked the door and jumped out. >> this child being traumatized. that was the bit of evidence, i think, which locked them into a course that we couldn't turn the ship around. >> please rise. on count one murder guilty of first degree murder -- >> it almost seems unreal. we're looking at a guy that's a potential serial killer, that at a minimum has killed two people, was probably in line to kill a third. >> they never did a trial for your case. >> no. the prosecutor says it's a waste of their time, he's already going away for life. >> what would you have liked to have seen happen? >> i think i would've just liked to have the option of things. that's kind of a huge slap in my face. >> madison played a key role up to this point, but he had been convicted of two sperate counts of first-degree murder. so he's essentially going to die in prison
mr. willis? >> no.as like, "i do not want to do this. i don't want to." but i had to do it. >> were you scared? >> i was still scared, yeah. >> what did you do? >> i unlocked the door and jumped out. >> this child being traumatized. that was the bit of evidence, i think, which locked them into a course that we couldn't turn the ship around. >> please rise. on count one murder guilty of first degree murder -- >> it almost seems unreal....
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mr. wade about fani willis? >> could you repeat your question. >> did you ever talk to mr. wade about fani willis during the time of march, 2020 one to november 1 of 2021? did you know they were dating? did you ever socialize with mr. wade. >> as far as being employed. >> did you ever go out to eat with mr. wade? >> on occasion he would take the office out to lunch. >> beyond that, did you go to a nightclub or drinking with him? >> no i did not. >> whatever relationship mr. wade have with mr. willis, you don't have personal knowledge, correct? >> i do not have personal knowledge. >> thank you very much for being here. >> when he started in march of 2021, was that just you gave him a resume and you started working there? >> i don't understand the question. >> when you started working there, is it a situation where your first day on the job was the first day you may have met him or shortly before you met him? >> again, i don't understand what you are asking. >> let me back up. did you know mr. wade or any of his partners prior to march of 2021? >> yes, i did. >> how did you kn
mr. wade about fani willis? >> could you repeat your question. >> did you ever talk to mr. wade about fani willis during the time of march, 2020 one to november 1 of 2021? did you know they were dating? did you ever socialize with mr. wade. >> as far as being employed. >> did you ever go out to eat with mr. wade? >> on occasion he would take the office out to lunch. >> beyond that, did you go to a nightclub or drinking with him? >> no i did not....
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willis and mr.wade met in october of 2019? >> i'm going to renew my objection, if the question can be rephrased, that may address my concern. >> so judge, let me -- i just want to make sure i understand. they've objected to me calling willis and wade. >> it's just a matter of foundation. if you can just rephrase. >> do you have knowledge of when willis and wade met? >> i'm going to object. personal knowledge. >> overruled. >> do you have personal knowledge of when willis and wade met? >> yes. she told me that they met at a conference. i don't know what conference. >> i'm going to renew my objection, clearly this is not firsthand information from this witness. it's hearsay -- >> but she said she told me. >> yes, it's statement against interest judge. >> just pause. i'm sorry. >> okay. ms. cross. >> the representation of the witness, the testimony of the witness was that ms. willis, district attorney willis had a conversation with her. there is no statement against interest. district attorney willis i
willis and mr.wade met in october of 2019? >> i'm going to renew my objection, if the question can be rephrased, that may address my concern. >> so judge, let me -- i just want to make sure i understand. they've objected to me calling willis and wade. >> it's just a matter of foundation. if you can just rephrase. >> do you have knowledge of when willis and wade met? >> i'm going to object. personal knowledge. >> overruled. >> do you have personal...
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mr. wade at ms. willis' fulton county house in 2021? >> never. >> is it it your testimony the only time or first time you met mr. wade was in 2023? >> let me say something, mr. wade said that he remembers seeing me, and i do remember some banter. i'm a member of kappa alpha psi fraternity. there is this thing that goes on between fraternities. mr. wade is a member of alpha phi alpha. i do remember there was a banter when my daughter was sworn in to be district attorney between me and a couple guys. he said he remembers me. i don't remember him. >> prior to that experience that you are talking about, as well as i guess your official meeting in 2023, had you ever seen heard his name? >> no. never. >> i don't think i have further questions, your honor. >> ms. merchant. >> yes. >> how are you, counsel? >> good. a couple questions. >> on monday we heard you were in california. do you have a place in california? >> people always ask me about where do i live. i guess i live right here sitting in this seat right now. but, yes, the answer is i ha
mr. wade at ms. willis' fulton county house in 2021? >> never. >> is it it your testimony the only time or first time you met mr. wade was in 2023? >> let me say something, mr. wade said that he remembers seeing me, and i do remember some banter. i'm a member of kappa alpha psi fraternity. there is this thing that goes on between fraternities. mr. wade is a member of alpha phi alpha. i do remember there was a banter when my daughter was sworn in to be district attorney between...
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i don't recall. >> but you know miss willis was there and mr. wade was there. >> it was at our office. actually, miss willis was there and there were other people there. mr. wade was not in that meeting. he was, he was -- in the back. i wasn't even in that meeting. >> why did she hold it at your office then? >> i have no idea. >> you also remember telling me about them spending time together at her law office before she took her job. >> i don't recall. do you -- i don't recall. do you have something to -- >> well, what i'm asking is, so let's back up a sec. so miss willis rented a law office from evans firm. or andrew evans and another lawyer, i think stacy evans. t you have knowledge of that, correct? >> object to hearsay. how does he know the information. that would be the correct question. >> okay. >> i don't really know how to even respond to that. hearsay. i'm asking if he knew she rented -- >> they may have been there. >> right. >> may have seen a business card at some point. >> i've never been to miss willis' office when she was in private
i don't recall. >> but you know miss willis was there and mr. wade was there. >> it was at our office. actually, miss willis was there and there were other people there. mr. wade was not in that meeting. he was, he was -- in the back. i wasn't even in that meeting. >> why did she hold it at your office then? >> i have no idea. >> you also remember telling me about them spending time together at her law office before she took her job. >> i don't recall. do you...
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willis saying here is my record, $10,000 in cash to mr. wade. we need to know that. also, miss willis financial disclosure. we are talking about two people that went to extraordinary lengths to find -- to hide their relationship. extraordinarily. district attorney taking the stand and taking this court and this court will file financial disclosures in 2022 identifying the stories. have they seen all of this? you have seen all of the things around $10,000 in cash. for the financial declaration for 2021 and the financial declaration of 2022 which was filed may 2023. there is no listening of any whatsoever over $100. it cries out for her testimony. needing to get out here and say why did you not tell us disclosure forms for the nature of the relationship between sources and the public official. hiring somebody for $1000 and none of that is revealed. he has explained it all in cash. obviously there are advocates in this position. she needs to go on record. she filed this motion. we have seen what happened here. we need to have the full picture serious business of anybody.
willis saying here is my record, $10,000 in cash to mr. wade. we need to know that. also, miss willis financial disclosure. we are talking about two people that went to extraordinary lengths to find -- to hide their relationship. extraordinarily. district attorney taking the stand and taking this court and this court will file financial disclosures in 2022 identifying the stories. have they seen all of this? you have seen all of the things around $10,000 in cash. for the financial declaration...
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mr. wade at ms. willis' fulton county house in 2021? >> never. >> is it it your testimony the only time or first time you met mr. wade was in 2023? >> let me say something, mr. wade said that he remembers seeing me, and i do remember some banter. i'm a member of kappa alpha psi fraternity. there is this thing that goes on between fraternities. mr. wade is a member of alpha phi alpha. i do remember there was a banter when my daughter was sworn in to be district attorney between me and a couple guys. he said he remembers me. i don't remember him. >> prior to that experience that you are talking about, as well as i guess your official meeting in 2023, had you ever seen heard his name? >> no. never. >> i don't think i have further questions, your honor. >> ms. merchant. >> yes. >> how are you, counsel? >> good. a couple questions. >> on monday we heard you were in california. do you have a place in california? >> people always ask me about where do i live. i guess i live right here sitting in this seat right now. but, yes, the answer is i ha
mr. wade at ms. willis' fulton county house in 2021? >> never. >> is it it your testimony the only time or first time you met mr. wade was in 2023? >> let me say something, mr. wade said that he remembers seeing me, and i do remember some banter. i'm a member of kappa alpha psi fraternity. there is this thing that goes on between fraternities. mr. wade is a member of alpha phi alpha. i do remember there was a banter when my daughter was sworn in to be district attorney between...
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mr. wade and ms willis meeting at evans office >> on object. >> to, asked and answered. he's testified that wasn't answered. >> i haven't we haven't heard an answer. >> he testified he had one conversation with mr. wade and the back of his law office and his answer may change so as to what how to answer the question i can't recall what the conversation was i do i do recall knowing that they would that he wouldn't go down to the office or had been down to the office, but i can't tell you in what capacity or when or any of that. no. >> mr. wade told you that they had sex with an office that correct? >> i don't recall him saying that, no >> you don't recall it? >> no. >> so it's possible he did say that you don't remember one way or another? >> i do not remember him saying that do you recall that he had a garage door opener to >> your house or a condo or something like that of ms willis's >> i've never seen a garage door opener i've never been to ms willis's house i've never been to and i'm trying to explain. i've never been so no, i do not have any personal knowledge of him
mr. wade and ms willis meeting at evans office >> on object. >> to, asked and answered. he's testified that wasn't answered. >> i haven't we haven't heard an answer. >> he testified he had one conversation with mr. wade and the back of his law office and his answer may change so as to what how to answer the question i can't recall what the conversation was i do i do recall knowing that they would that he wouldn't go down to the office or had been down to the office, but...
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willis mr.ade met in the conference in octobeo object that for a foundation of how she that she had personal information of them and suddenly something the witness can testify too. >> all right miss merchant laid the foundation for. >> do you have information that ms. willis and mr. wade met in october 2010? >> 2010? >> renew my objection information is not personal information the question can be rephrased that would address my concern. >> subject i want to make sure i understand. they have objected to me calling but. >> is matter foundation if you can rephrase. >> and do you have a knowledge of when willis and wade met question because i'm going to object again personal knowledge but. >> overruled. >> thank you. >> to personal knowledge of when willis and made wade at metz? >> yes she told me they met at a conference. at that conference residents renew my objection clearly this is not information from that witness is hearsay. she told me. >> it's a statement against interest. >> 's cross? >> t
willis mr.ade met in the conference in octobeo object that for a foundation of how she that she had personal information of them and suddenly something the witness can testify too. >> all right miss merchant laid the foundation for. >> do you have information that ms. willis and mr. wade met in october 2010? >> 2010? >> renew my objection information is not personal information the question can be rephrased that would address my concern. >> subject i want to make...
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mr. wade personally in two years since i left the firm. >> ms. willis? mr. bradley: my interaction with ms. willis was never where i would pick up the phone and talk to her or anything like that. >> so you didn't hang out with ms. willis, did not have a personal relationship with her? mr. bradley: no, i never had any personal relationship. i mentioned before that i went to a dinner that was after she was elected that was at a steakhouse, but it was 75 200 people there. >> so you knew of her, you just did not have a business relationship or personal relationship with her, at least a close one? mr. bradley: she was in the das office and i had criminal cases, but i did not personally know her, no. >> not having known her, not really hanging out with her, you got a contract from her office. >> i am going to object. asked and answered. judge mcafee: i think you covered this ground on the 16th about the contracts. are you going somewhere else with this? >> i am, judge, if you would give me a little latitude. judge mcafee: you may proceed. >> you got a contract from
mr. wade personally in two years since i left the firm. >> ms. willis? mr. bradley: my interaction with ms. willis was never where i would pick up the phone and talk to her or anything like that. >> so you didn't hang out with ms. willis, did not have a personal relationship with her? mr. bradley: no, i never had any personal relationship. i mentioned before that i went to a dinner that was after she was elected that was at a steakhouse, but it was 75 200 people there. >> so...
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mr. wade in 2018. he met ms willis in 2019. that's clearly within the bounds of attorney-client privilege, but there's understood, mr. body. so i think ms merchant, you need to qualify that question thank you >> i'm not asking you to tell me what nathan wade told you in furtherance of legal advice. okay. so i want to be very clear. if he i told you something asking you legal advice, i'm not asking you about that. i'm asking about what you observed. what you saw, and what you knew outside of what he told you when he was specifically seeking legal advice for you apologize. >> again on mr. bradley, he's asserting that 20 client privilege associated with this case when removed 1.6 the drawing inference and statements that will be other proper of information after this relationship began between attorney and client december 2018 would be improper and you would in fact, the violating rules about his bar license so the way the question was phrased was just saying, what did he personally observe outside of the relationship? not involved
mr. wade in 2018. he met ms willis in 2019. that's clearly within the bounds of attorney-client privilege, but there's understood, mr. body. so i think ms merchant, you need to qualify that question thank you >> i'm not asking you to tell me what nathan wade told you in furtherance of legal advice. okay. so i want to be very clear. if he i told you something asking you legal advice, i'm not asking you about that. i'm asking about what you observed. what you saw, and what you knew outside...
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willis and mr. we will sort it outline as you the rest of the week unfolds. i want to turn to the "special report" classified documents, byron. real pushback from the white house. >> the president himself about what was in that report, the special counsel hur's report. here's what he said in part about that. >> there is even reference that i don't remember when my son died. how in the hell dare he raise that. frankly, when i was asked the question, i thought to myself, it wasn't any of their damn business. >> bret: well, we have confirmed this nbc news report now. biden attacked hur for asking when bo dyed. but hur never asked that question. according to two people familiar with hur's five-hour interview with the president over two days last october. it was the president, not hur or his team who first introduced beau biden's death, they said. >> we don't have the transcript but we have a confirmed that element of the story, byron. >> that was the emotional core of the president's pushback. we all kn
willis and mr. we will sort it outline as you the rest of the week unfolds. i want to turn to the "special report" classified documents, byron. real pushback from the white house. >> the president himself about what was in that report, the special counsel hur's report. here's what he said in part about that. >> there is even reference that i don't remember when my son died. how in the hell dare he raise that. frankly, when i was asked the question, i thought to myself, it...
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mr. wade at miss willis' fulton county house in the year 2021? >> never. >> is it your testimony that the only time, the first time that you met mr. wade was in 2023? >> let me say something. mr. wade said that he remembers seeing me and i do remember some banter, i'm a member of kappa alpha si fraternity. and he's a member of -- i do remember there was some kind of banter when my daughter was sworn in to be district attorney between me and a couple of guys, and he said he remembers me. i don't remember him. >> and prior to that experience that you're talking about, as well as your official meeting in 2023, had you ever even heard his name? >> no, never. >> i don't think very any further questions, your honor. >> miss merchant? >> yes, thank you, judge. >> fine, how you, counsel? >> good. thank you. a couple questions. on monday we heard you were in california. do you have a place in california? >> people always ask me about where do i live. i guess i live right here, sitting in this seat right now. but, yes, the answer is i have a place in los an
mr. wade at miss willis' fulton county house in the year 2021? >> never. >> is it your testimony that the only time, the first time that you met mr. wade was in 2023? >> let me say something. mr. wade said that he remembers seeing me and i do remember some banter, i'm a member of kappa alpha si fraternity. and he's a member of -- i do remember there was some kind of banter when my daughter was sworn in to be district attorney between me and a couple of guys, and he said he...
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da willis selected mr. wade to be a special prosecutor on this case because he hasn't experienced attorney and she trusted his judgment and i will stop for a minute and let's let's apply a little common sense here. >> if >> the defense thought that mr. wade was an incompetent attorney is was just suggested. wouldn't they want him to stay on the case and my opponent here also mentioned that ms willis could have hired anyone. >> well, that's not true. you heard testimony today in court from the former governor of georgia, who was asked first a number of people were asked before ms willis went to mr. wade, would they take this role? would they be a special prosecutor? and they said no. and you can understand why someone would hesitate. the amount of public pressure and hatred and threats that anyone is going to get if they say yes to this assignment. this isn't a favor. it's an imposition >> and we heard today also from final says father, who spoke specifically to that, and i think we can listen to a little of
da willis selected mr. wade to be a special prosecutor on this case because he hasn't experienced attorney and she trusted his judgment and i will stop for a minute and let's let's apply a little common sense here. >> if >> the defense thought that mr. wade was an incompetent attorney is was just suggested. wouldn't they want him to stay on the case and my opponent here also mentioned that ms willis could have hired anyone. >> well, that's not true. you heard testimony today...
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willis and nathan wade were carrying on a secret relationship. mr.remove mr. wade, mrs. philips, and her entire office from the case. mr. roman contends that nathan wade was not qualified to the job on d. a. willis's team but miss willis hired him anyway ensuring that he will receive a generous salary and financial benefits thanks to their alleged relationship. now, today, 176 page court filing, fani willis is offered a detailed response to those allegations. first, she confirmed that yes, she and nathan wade had a, quote, personal relationship in addition to their, quote, professional association and friendship. miss willis said the relationship began after she hired mr. d. a. to join her team. mike roman claims that mr. wade was paid by mrs. willis's office to finance vacations he and that d. a. took together. financial responsibility for personal travel taken is divided evenly between the two and all expenses or paid for it with individual personal funds. in other words, they were going dutch. after that claim that nathan wade was not qualified fo
willis and nathan wade were carrying on a secret relationship. mr.remove mr. wade, mrs. philips, and her entire office from the case. mr. roman contends that nathan wade was not qualified to the job on d. a. willis's team but miss willis hired him anyway ensuring that he will receive a generous salary and financial benefits thanks to their alleged relationship. now, today, 176 page court filing, fani willis is offered a detailed response to those allegations. first, she confirmed that yes, she...
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willis. you see. >> mr.does a prosecutor in a criminal case get questioned under oath by the defendant's attorneys. but it was clear long ago the election interference case against donald trump and 14 others now is no typical prosecution. we're talking about professionalism. >> no. are we talking about professionalism? she put in three different documents. he lived with me for opportunity to respond. >> a defiant fani willis testified that she and nathan wade dated for about a year after she brought him in, as a special prosecutor, but they've done nothing improper, she says, and she did not benefit financially from the relationship. wade testified his marriage was irretrievably broken in 2015, but he and his wife decided to stay together until their children were out of school. when did your romantic relationship with miss willis begin? >> 2022. when in 2022, early 2022, that would have been after he was hired by willis to manage the racketeering case against donald trump and others, wade said the two didn'
willis. you see. >> mr.does a prosecutor in a criminal case get questioned under oath by the defendant's attorneys. but it was clear long ago the election interference case against donald trump and 14 others now is no typical prosecution. we're talking about professionalism. >> no. are we talking about professionalism? she put in three different documents. he lived with me for opportunity to respond. >> a defiant fani willis testified that she and nathan wade dated for about a...
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if sanctions will remain as they are, i don’t think that... direct quote: many times entertained mrs. willisained him, end of quote, well, that is, they were lovers, as they now report until 2023, until may, as at least , maximum until august, but this no longer matters, they repeatedly had a good time traveling together in the caribbean, florida and california, while... she was outraged by the assumption that she slept with her de facto subordinate, hardly not on the first day of our acquaintance, she called what was happening a lie, well, that is, not on the first day, while the very fact of the existence of a connection did not refute, everything would be fine, the matter, as they say, is a young, everyday thing, but the handsome nathan, who, by the way, has a legal wife and.. . denies everything, says that he is in no way involved in the legal prosecution of his competitor. well, now the sweet couple from wade and willis is facing a criminal case for misuse of budget funds. trump himself is preparing for the priimaris war, where he plans to win a convincing victory, and then go to oregon
if sanctions will remain as they are, i don’t think that... direct quote: many times entertained mrs. willisained him, end of quote, well, that is, they were lovers, as they now report until 2023, until may, as at least , maximum until august, but this no longer matters, they repeatedly had a good time traveling together in the caribbean, florida and california, while... she was outraged by the assumption that she slept with her de facto subordinate, hardly not on the first day of our...
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mr. roman was essentially this fani willis was in a romantic relationship with mr. wade first, mr. wade, a man who's never prosecuted a felony. criminal trial, was then chosen by fani willis, according to the defendants because of that relationship to lead this massive case. and then as a result of that, mr. wade has been paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, some of which have made their way to fani willis indirectly through vacations and that sort of thing. the counter narrative that the da chose to pursue is no, no, no. he was hired for his merits. there was no pre-existing romantic relationship kinship, but after he was hired, the relationship develop these things happen. there was never any sort of plan or intentionality about it. so the question of when was an important issue to begin with. and now it's amplified many times over because the da has taken a very strong under oath position that it did not start until after the question to me, jake is who will the judge credit? will the judge credit that scene that we just saw from mr. bradley? i don't recall. i don't recall. it
mr. roman was essentially this fani willis was in a romantic relationship with mr. wade first, mr. wade, a man who's never prosecuted a felony. criminal trial, was then chosen by fani willis, according to the defendants because of that relationship to lead this massive case. and then as a result of that, mr. wade has been paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, some of which have made their way to fani willis indirectly through vacations and that sort of thing. the counter narrative that the da...
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solid free deposit slip to corroborate or support any of your allegations that you were paid by mrs. willis and cash, do you? >> no, sir. >> not a single solitary one. >> not a one. >> willis confirms she reimbursed wade and cash, explaining her father always advised her to keep six months cash on hand. since she's a single woman. >> i don't know why this old black man feels like that, but he does. when we were growing up, my daddy had three safes in the house, so my father bought me a lock box and i always keep cash in the house. >> defense attorneys argue willis only hired wade, paying him more than $650,000. so far, so she could get a financial benefit from all those trips. but throughout her testimony, fani willis was defiant. i object to you getting records. >> you've been intrusive into people's personal lives. you're confused. you think i'm on trial? these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial. no matter how hard you try to put me on trial and that was randy travis reporting. >> willis is expected to return to the witness stand tomorrow in a la
solid free deposit slip to corroborate or support any of your allegations that you were paid by mrs. willis and cash, do you? >> no, sir. >> not a single solitary one. >> not a one. >> willis confirms she reimbursed wade and cash, explaining her father always advised her to keep six months cash on hand. since she's a single woman. >> i don't know why this old black man feels like that, but he does. when we were growing up, my daddy had three safes in the house, so...
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now, even never trump legal experts throwing water on mrs. willis' case, questioning trump's judgment but perjuring state ricoh's statue with a crime boss whose enterprise subverting democracy? that is quite another. the willis investigation was a political vendetta and it was a travesty from the get-go. there are plenty of lowlife radicals across the country who want trump off of the political scene, but they shouldn't have the power to prosecute and be paid by state taxpayers or have any power to interfere with the 2024 presidential election because that election interference and that is "the angle." karoline leavitt the press secretary for the trump campaign. caroline, one of the presidents thoughts about this hearing? >> well, president trump has long said this family willis case is a sham. it has no legal basis and it should be dismissed. today the entire world got to see that president trump is 100% right, even msdnc the legal analysts over there and joe biden's own propaganda network admitted family willis had a very bad day. but more importa
now, even never trump legal experts throwing water on mrs. willis' case, questioning trump's judgment but perjuring state ricoh's statue with a crime boss whose enterprise subverting democracy? that is quite another. the willis investigation was a political vendetta and it was a travesty from the get-go. there are plenty of lowlife radicals across the country who want trump off of the political scene, but they shouldn't have the power to prosecute and be paid by state taxpayers or have any...
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wade and mrs. willis offering what i thought was quite credible testimony.l describe what we thought we were fairly odd or fairly unusual elements of it. but i thought, on the whole, they were on the stand for hours . they were consistent, and i thought they're mostly mo credible. >> let's remind everyone what fani willis had to say when -- of not just donald trump but, it was a rico case. there's lots of other individuals in august. let's remind folks. let's play this. >> i make decisions in this office based on the facts of a the law. the law is completely nonpartisan, that is how decisions are made in every case. to date, this office has indicted, since i've been sitting as the district attorney, over 12,000 cases. this is the 11th r. i. c. o. indictment. we followed the same process. we look at the facts, we look at the law, and we bring charges. >> joyce, let's go back today and separate the legal aspect of this from the optics. t our colleague charles coleman pointed out that there are two ways for district attorney qualification in georgia. one forens
wade and mrs. willis offering what i thought was quite credible testimony.l describe what we thought we were fairly odd or fairly unusual elements of it. but i thought, on the whole, they were on the stand for hours . they were consistent, and i thought they're mostly mo credible. >> let's remind everyone what fani willis had to say when -- of not just donald trump but, it was a rico case. there's lots of other individuals in august. let's remind folks. let's play this. >> i make...
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great record here i mean, candidly, we all agree everyone in this panel agrees that maybe fani willis, mr. way, didn't make the best choice here, but ultimately the legal standard is we've all discussed is very high and they're not really that close to it. and ultimately, he is giving the defense a lot of rope to ask a lot of questions. but when they keep asking the same questions over and over and it's apparent that they're not make their points are not going to get to where they need to go in this motion. he is doing a very good job of shutting things down because as you pointed out in the beginning, this is basically desperate housewives sort of thing, right? this is a real ultimately a salacious salacious hearing that's going to potentially influenced potential jurors. so once we get past the useful point of this it's his job to shut this down so that ultimately we don't have further taint that's on a jury pool because first of all, i need you to know desperate housewives and then the real housewives were not one was starring eva longoria. the other one is because we're in georgia, ne
great record here i mean, candidly, we all agree everyone in this panel agrees that maybe fani willis, mr. way, didn't make the best choice here, but ultimately the legal standard is we've all discussed is very high and they're not really that close to it. and ultimately, he is giving the defense a lot of rope to ask a lot of questions. but when they keep asking the same questions over and over and it's apparent that they're not make their points are not going to get to where they need to go in...
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willis' defense today. she was not taking money from mr. and she was not benefitting financially from their relationship because that is not the kind of person fani willis is. the question now is how will the judge hear, understand those arguments, and what does her testimony mean for the future of this case against donald trump and the 14 others still facing charges? melissa murray is back with me to talk about all of that coming up next. me to talk about all of that coming up next. i still love to surf, snowboard, and, of course, skate. so, i take qunol magnesium to support my muscle and bone health. qunol's extra strength, high absorption magnesium helps me get the full benefits of magnesium. qunol, the brand i trust. >>> it's ridiculous to me that you lied on monday and yet here we are still are. let's be clear because you lied and let me tell you which one you lied in. right here, i think you lied right here. no, no, this is the truth. and it is a lie. it is a lie. >> during a contentious hearing in atlanta, fwa, today fulton county dis
willis' defense today. she was not taking money from mr. and she was not benefitting financially from their relationship because that is not the kind of person fani willis is. the question now is how will the judge hear, understand those arguments, and what does her testimony mean for the future of this case against donald trump and the 14 others still facing charges? melissa murray is back with me to talk about all of that coming up next. me to talk about all of that coming up next. i still...
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mr. wade is a southern gentleman. me not so much willis, not hiding her agar over the allegations at one point being called a hostile witness by the defense. >> i'm very much want to be here, so i'm not a hostile witness. >> well, both weight and willis have admitted to the relationship they had. they say it began only after wade took the job, that timeline also a major point of contention in the hearing today before willis took the stand, the first witness of the day directly contradicted waited willis his previous statements to the court. you have no doubt that their romantic relationship was in effect from 2019 until the last time you spoke with her? >> no doubt. >> that's three years earlier than with wade said in an affidavit, their relationship started, but wade holding firm to that date, when he took the stand, when he 22 was the start of any intimate sexual relationship with the district >> attorney as did willis. >> when did you start dating? >> when i started dating mr. wade. it was right around then april 2020 22 around the i do
mr. wade is a southern gentleman. me not so much willis, not hiding her agar over the allegations at one point being called a hostile witness by the defense. >> i'm very much want to be here, so i'm not a hostile witness. >> well, both weight and willis have admitted to the relationship they had. they say it began only after wade took the job, that timeline also a major point of contention in the hearing today before willis took the stand, the first witness of the day directly...
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mr. wade and miss willis. when you're talking about mr.e proceedings, anticipating that something of this magnitude could have happened, no, i don't think that would have been reasonable to expect. but as you saw things began to unravel, this was the situation that, sir, you needed to take care of before now. in terms of miss willis, with everything on the line with regard to this case, i don't know that with as many eyes and ears that you have on you, this is the decision that you make with one of your assistants who is on the same case. that being what it is, it is important to understand that these are two separate things but they are impacting one another. to your point, we are here in large part because of how messy mr. weeds divorce proceedings were and how that ended up affecting what is the professionalism that is being called to question. >> a man like that is in control of his divorce proceedings. if you give the mother of your children what she is asking for, the problem goes away. >> it does, but in this case i think one of the
mr. wade and miss willis. when you're talking about mr.e proceedings, anticipating that something of this magnitude could have happened, no, i don't think that would have been reasonable to expect. but as you saw things began to unravel, this was the situation that, sir, you needed to take care of before now. in terms of miss willis, with everything on the line with regard to this case, i don't know that with as many eyes and ears that you have on you, this is the decision that you make with...
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mr. wade is a southern gentleman. me, not so much. >> ms. willis -- >> i think we have -- >> i very much want to be here, so i'm not a hostile witness. i very much want to be here. you tried to implicate i slept with him at that conference, which i find to be extremely offensive. it's highly offensive when someone lies on you, and it's highly offensive when they try to implicate with somebody the first day you met them. i object to you getting records. you've been intrusive. you're confused. you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial, no matter how hard you put me on trial. >> has he ever visited you at the place you laid your head? >> let me tell you where you lied. you lied right here. this is the truth. it is a lie. it is a lie. >> this is a lie. that was the d.a. there speaking, gesturing, under oath, going back at both the co-counsel and the trump defense lawyer who also questioned her today, which itself is rare, only because this motion has gotten this far. she was deliberately
mr. wade is a southern gentleman. me, not so much. >> ms. willis -- >> i think we have -- >> i very much want to be here, so i'm not a hostile witness. i very much want to be here. you tried to implicate i slept with him at that conference, which i find to be extremely offensive. it's highly offensive when someone lies on you, and it's highly offensive when they try to implicate with somebody the first day you met them. i object to you getting records. you've been intrusive....
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. >> when did your romantic relationship with mrs. willis begin? >> 2022. around march. >> i do not consider our relationship to have become romantic until early of 2022. i'm saying sometime between february and april of 2022. >> martha: the stunning new claim just filed in court today that cast doubt on the timeline and puts fani willis under fire. we keeping a close eye also today on the race in south carolina where we expect that we will soon hear from former president trump who is in rock hill, south carolina, just a short time from now, ahead of his show down tomorrow with the former governor of south carolina, nikki haley. is it possible to count on my internet like my customers count on me? it is with comcast business. keeping you up and running with our 99.9% network reliability. and security that helps outsmart threats to your data. moaire dida twoo? - your data, too. there's even round-the-clock customer support. so you can be there for your customers. with comcast business, reliability isn't just possible. it's happening. get started for $49 a mo
. >> when did your romantic relationship with mrs. willis begin? >> 2022. around march. >> i do not consider our relationship to have become romantic until early of 2022. i'm saying sometime between february and april of 2022. >> martha: the stunning new claim just filed in court today that cast doubt on the timeline and puts fani willis under fire. we keeping a close eye also today on the race in south carolina where we expect that we will soon hear from former...