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ms davis swore an oath to serve the citizens and uphold the law. regardless of what the law was, she had to uphold the law. that is not subject to her own personal religious beliefs more than i can say - decide that i think it should be legal for me to engage in human sacrifice, that's what my religion teaches. >> isn't it right that they say you can't interpret it for themselves. she has no authority to do that. >> no, she doesn't. she's a public officials. it's unusual in the free exercise cases. conscience. i don't agree with the content of her claim. it's a claim of conscience, and must be fan seriously. she doesn't want her name an the marriage certificate. that's the deal. she's the clerk. her name is on there. she wants some process. we need to find a way to get her name off. she can't close the office done, at the same time we have to take seriously that she means what she says in terms of following her god. >> that is adjudicated and fought over now. cannes represented the plaintiffs in the rowan marriage licence case. and charles at the i
ms davis swore an oath to serve the citizens and uphold the law. regardless of what the law was, she had to uphold the law. that is not subject to her own personal religious beliefs more than i can say - decide that i think it should be legal for me to engage in human sacrifice, that's what my religion teaches. >> isn't it right that they say you can't interpret it for themselves. she has no authority to do that. >> no, she doesn't. she's a public officials. it's unusual in the free...
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the argument that ms davis is putting forward is that she's acting on god's authority. god's authority. what do you make of that as an argument? >> well, you know, listen, obviously we support ms davis's right to believe what she wants to believe or anyone else's right to believe what they want to believe in a religious context the . the problem with that is the government. she's an elected official, and she governs for all when intents and purposes a county in kentucky. it's important for your viewers, and for our friends on the other side in particular to understand what the implications are of what ms davis's arguments have been throughout this thing, which is an elected official can govern a county according to his or her own private religious believes. and the answer on the other side is look, your clients can go to any other county in kentucky, you have 119 other option, you can go down the street and go 30 minutes away and get a licence in any other county. and the obvious problem with that is that the precedent of allowing that sort of thing would set, would be
the argument that ms davis is putting forward is that she's acting on god's authority. god's authority. what do you make of that as an argument? >> well, you know, listen, obviously we support ms davis's right to believe what she wants to believe or anyone else's right to believe what they want to believe in a religious context the . the problem with that is the government. she's an elected official, and she governs for all when intents and purposes a county in kentucky. it's important...
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now, ms. davisnd, is not going to stand in the way of her bub board nants issuing licenses in the county. thee is not going continue to trudy on that. >> that's correct. she is not going to prevent them if they feel compelled. >> okay. so that solves the problem from the jump. my question to you, counselor is, why couldn't that have been worked out in the first 10 minutes of this controversy? why did everything break loose? >> we asked the court to actually do this and the court refused to. and we asked the governor to do. this so today what kim davis is it d. see removed her name off the marriage certificate and removed her title in authority. saying they are not issued in her authority. she has requested from the very beginning that this become under the commonwealth of kentucky if he he wants to. but the governor refused to lift a finger whereas last year he accommodated his own attorney general when with he didn't want to luft the marriage laws. >> obviously a political decision. >> it's a polit
now, ms. davisnd, is not going to stand in the way of her bub board nants issuing licenses in the county. thee is not going continue to trudy on that. >> that's correct. she is not going to prevent them if they feel compelled. >> okay. so that solves the problem from the jump. my question to you, counselor is, why couldn't that have been worked out in the first 10 minutes of this controversy? why did everything break loose? >> we asked the court to actually do this and the...
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now, ms. davis, is not going to stand in the way of her bub board nants issuing licenses in the county. thee is not going continue to trudy on that. >> that's correct. she is not going to prevent them if they feel compelled. >> okay. so that solves the problem from the jump. my question to you, counselor is, why couldn't that have been worked out in the first 10 minutes of this controversy? why did everything break loose? >> we asked the court to actually do this and the court refused to. and we asked the governor to do. this so today what kim davis is it d. see removed her name off the marriage certificate and removed her title in authority. saying they are not issued in her authority. she has requested from the very beginning that this become under the commonwealth of kentucky if he he wants to. but the governor refused to lift a finger whereas last year he accommodated his own attorney general when with he didn't want to luft the marriage laws. >> obviously a political decision. >> it's a politic
now, ms. davis, is not going to stand in the way of her bub board nants issuing licenses in the county. thee is not going continue to trudy on that. >> that's correct. she is not going to prevent them if they feel compelled. >> okay. so that solves the problem from the jump. my question to you, counselor is, why couldn't that have been worked out in the first 10 minutes of this controversy? why did everything break loose? >> we asked the court to actually do this and the court...
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for the government, you're going to do the government's will and aid this is not appropriate by ms. davis. >> what happened today is an outrage. for the first time we're seeing a christian woman thrown in jail for standing up for her faith. i stand with kim davis, i stand with her and anyone thaels the government is trying to persecute for standing up for their faith. this is fundamentally wrong and it's inconsistent with the first amendment of the constitution. we have a nation that was formed by people fleeing religious oppression and coming to seek a land where we could worship free of the government getting in the way. and it is stunning what is happening here. >> here's what -- >> i would also point out, megyn -- >> i apologize. >> go ahead. i was going to -- >> so the other side says that she can exercise but she can't -- she shouldn't be in this role. her job is to issue marriage licenses. so it's an impossibility. she can't just not issue them now that they're legal. >> well, but that's fundamentally wrong. the consequence of that statement, that standard is that christians can't
for the government, you're going to do the government's will and aid this is not appropriate by ms. davis. >> what happened today is an outrage. for the first time we're seeing a christian woman thrown in jail for standing up for her faith. i stand with kim davis, i stand with her and anyone thaels the government is trying to persecute for standing up for their faith. this is fundamentally wrong and it's inconsistent with the first amendment of the constitution. we have a nation that was...
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ms. davis has been released so it all seems kinda moot. davis exits the jailhouse, the rally goes on. ted cruz is there, tweeted out video of himself to prove it, he hasn't made an appearance. to the extent they're all on the same side of the issue they're definitely running against each other when it comes to getting attention today. >> it's the first time i can remember where we spent the first 11 minutes of any newscast, since the hour before and the hour before were also involved and it didn't involve donald trump. >> he'll get a hold of it sooner or later. >> he said over the weekend he understands where she's coming from and he thinks it's ridiculous she's in jail and there ought to be a fix. which is what all the candidates have said, whether they come down on the side of she should do our job and took on oath or given latitude not to do her job. carl, thanks. he mentionedry li ridiculous sh in jail. her own people came up with a compromise. she wanted accommodation that said she didn't want her name on those things. she felt inside
ms. davis has been released so it all seems kinda moot. davis exits the jailhouse, the rally goes on. ted cruz is there, tweeted out video of himself to prove it, he hasn't made an appearance. to the extent they're all on the same side of the issue they're definitely running against each other when it comes to getting attention today. >> it's the first time i can remember where we spent the first 11 minutes of any newscast, since the hour before and the hour before were also involved and...
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." >> ms. davis hopes this good faith meares will be sufficient to satisfy the plaintiffs and the court. >> reporter: the changes, davis says, allow her to obey both her god and the judge. david, kim davis will continue her fight in court, but today, kentucky's governor said even without her signature, the marriage licenses issued here are valid. david? >> t.j., thank you. >>> we're going to turn now to missouri tonight, and calls for sweeping changes in the wake of the deadly police shooting of michael brown. a special commission finding excessive police force and racial bias were partly to blame for violent protests in ferguson last year. the commission recommending police and social reforms including a change in policing habits, incrissing the minimum wage and improving the educational system there. >>> now to the race for 2016 tonight, donald trump taking the stage in texas, a packed house expected in dallas. 20,000 strong. just as a new abc news poll has him in a dead heat with hillary clinton.
." >> ms. davis hopes this good faith meares will be sufficient to satisfy the plaintiffs and the court. >> reporter: the changes, davis says, allow her to obey both her god and the judge. david, kim davis will continue her fight in court, but today, kentucky's governor said even without her signature, the marriage licenses issued here are valid. david? >> t.j., thank you. >>> we're going to turn now to missouri tonight, and calls for sweeping changes in the wake...
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and, indeed, ms. davis has maintained these licenses are invalid without her signature.ion then is how that issue would ever go before a court. they obviously will take this to someone who will officiate the wedding. and that person very likely supports same-sex marriage and is likely to accept that license. but it is possible to see a challenge, including by someone like davis or others who ask for a thing called a declaratory judgment, to go to a court and say, we want to you declare these licenses are not in confirmty with kentucky law. the second issue is whether the kentucky legislature will get involved. they're not in session now. but there is two questions there. whether they want to support davis or whether they want to fashion some accommodation for clerks so they don't have to put their name on licenses. >> it sounds like they will take the second option when they get back in session. so the legal issues really are is what happens in this period before they come back, what will a judge rule? jonathan, can a county clerk be compelled -- in this period, county c
and, indeed, ms. davis has maintained these licenses are invalid without her signature.ion then is how that issue would ever go before a court. they obviously will take this to someone who will officiate the wedding. and that person very likely supports same-sex marriage and is likely to accept that license. but it is possible to see a challenge, including by someone like davis or others who ask for a thing called a declaratory judgment, to go to a court and say, we want to you declare these...
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i think ms. davis has been bombarded unjustly. >> what do you see this playing out legally? >> this is confusing because the law of the land is that same-sex marriage is legal. that needs to be reconciled with the question, do you have a constitutional right on religious grounds to refuse to issue the licenses? now, all of these clerks, they took oaths and their oaths said they would uphold the constitution of the united states and the laws of the land, including kentucky as well, so help me god. ms. davis looks at "so help me god" as, i will uphold the laws unless god tells me differently. that's not what the law says. >> this gentleman pointed out a doctor not providing an ador abortion, this is a government employee, not someone with a private practice. >> there was also a case in 2006 where it said if you take a government job, you have to deal with the fact that you're going to give up some of your everyday freedoms. that's what the law says about this. >> there is a report that the judge also called in, i guess, the assistant clerks here as a possible compromise where
i think ms. davis has been bombarded unjustly. >> what do you see this playing out legally? >> this is confusing because the law of the land is that same-sex marriage is legal. that needs to be reconciled with the question, do you have a constitutional right on religious grounds to refuse to issue the licenses? now, all of these clerks, they took oaths and their oaths said they would uphold the constitution of the united states and the laws of the land, including kentucky as well,...
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. >> we do not want to see ms. davis in prison. that was not our request.were hopeful that a monday monetary penalty would gain compliance. >> reporter: she has not received due process. >> she is incarcerated and has no bond. there is no written order and there was no notice that she could be incarcerated. that is an outrageous violation of her due process. >> reporter: her attorneys also say she is at peace with her actions. >> she might be jailed but her conscious remains free and she cannot violate her conscious and will not do so. >> reporter: john henry smith, al jazeera. >>> a minnesota dentist who killed cecil the lion went back to work and met with protesters as he opened the doors this morning and the first time he has been back to work since he killed the protected lion in zimbabwe in july and triggered anger and protests outside palmer's office, palmer insists he acted legally. having the right to die, the united kingdom debates allowing physician-assisted suicide and look at the status of the conversation here in the u.s. and working to try and
. >> we do not want to see ms. davis in prison. that was not our request.were hopeful that a monday monetary penalty would gain compliance. >> reporter: she has not received due process. >> she is incarcerated and has no bond. there is no written order and there was no notice that she could be incarcerated. that is an outrageous violation of her due process. >> reporter: her attorneys also say she is at peace with her actions. >> she might be jailed but her...
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the vatican reached out to ms. davis. so far, the vatican has not responded. do you remember ms. davis spent five days in jail for defying a federal court order to issue marriage license to same-sex couples. greg: st. patrick's day. we love it around here. well, the freight committee will allow a second right group to march. this has been an issue going back decades. allowing nbc to participate. that group, obviously, the parade is televised on nbc. greg: remember when we marched in it? rosanna: it was fun. second group under their own banner. will be allowed to march. greg: times square. the whole controversy. back in the news. possibly, progress is being made for some sort of compromise. rosanna: thinking about three different zones. apparently, the people who work around their are supporting this new zoning. several organizations, including the traits ignores whose ancient are backing the idea. greg: liz is in times square. >> reporter: good morning. the top is painted ladies continue to do their work here. a little early right now. later in the day, you will see them here. int
the vatican reached out to ms. davis. so far, the vatican has not responded. do you remember ms. davis spent five days in jail for defying a federal court order to issue marriage license to same-sex couples. greg: st. patrick's day. we love it around here. well, the freight committee will allow a second right group to march. this has been an issue going back decades. allowing nbc to participate. that group, obviously, the parade is televised on nbc. greg: remember when we marched in it?...
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i guess i also think, though, that ms. davisnd in that role has to uphold the law. i mean, it's a very difficult problem. but, you know, you can't have policemen, for example, refusing to arrest people or arrest them because -- it would be more fitting to say not arrest them because of their gender or their race or their sexual orientation. so i find the fact that she's working for the state problem mat you can. problematic. it's a different matter in private life, i think. but i think ms. davis has to uphold the law, or she's always free to find another job. and i'm sorry you and i, i don't think, agree on that. >> host: what did james madison, what were his views on religion? >> guest: views on religion. well, he never said. i think he was most likely something like a unitarian. he thought that religion was very important to public life because it turned people toward the good rather than the bad. but he mostly, his most underlying important belief is that each of us ought to be free to worship as we wish. now, you know, i'm n
i guess i also think, though, that ms. davisnd in that role has to uphold the law. i mean, it's a very difficult problem. but, you know, you can't have policemen, for example, refusing to arrest people or arrest them because -- it would be more fitting to say not arrest them because of their gender or their race or their sexual orientation. so i find the fact that she's working for the state problem mat you can. problematic. it's a different matter in private life, i think. but i think ms....
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the republican conservative judge presiding over ms. davis' case. gious belief trumps the law of the land, but judge david bunning appointed by president george w. bush said this. personal opinions, including my own, are not relevant to today. the idea of natural law super seeding this court's authority would be a dangerous president indeed. see, the point is, if we let kim davis act on her faith, we are opening pandora's box to do likewise in the name of their god, and that includes islam or a one-man religion someone devises to set their own laws. guess what? by later in the week other people on fox news were saying the exact same thing i was. when fox's shepard smith was anchoring around kim davis' release from prison, he editorialized this. >> well, they set this up as a religious play again. this is the same crowd that said we don't want sharia law. keep their religion out of our lives and government. here we go again. >> good for shep to step out of the ideological box over there. we already have enough knee-jerk reactions. and this guest on o'
the republican conservative judge presiding over ms. davis' case. gious belief trumps the law of the land, but judge david bunning appointed by president george w. bush said this. personal opinions, including my own, are not relevant to today. the idea of natural law super seeding this court's authority would be a dangerous president indeed. see, the point is, if we let kim davis act on her faith, we are opening pandora's box to do likewise in the name of their god, and that includes islam or a...
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look at the case here refusing ms. daviso issue the same sex licenses that is individual, constitutionally protected right that. >> so it's a personal right. >> correct. >> versus a regular. >> hab to bring the case. >> wait, wait, wait. hold on, somebody has got to do what? >> i think someone has to bring a case then in order to find the must compel the states to follow the law. right now there is no individual you know suing the sheriff. >> correct. >> and the city, the stinel family could expand that lawsuit against whom? >> pose the question should the san francisco local authorities be compelled to follow federal regulatory law. >> so route now. >> immigration and enforcement. >> in other words, there was a lawsuit brought in kentucky when this woman did this, right? there was a plaintiff there. >> it's a rights -- it's an individual rights thing. >> correct. >> you,buy, in this case what we have right now in this country, if a local sheriff doesn't want to enforce a national law,. >> yep. >> they don't have to. >> they
look at the case here refusing ms. daviso issue the same sex licenses that is individual, constitutionally protected right that. >> so it's a personal right. >> correct. >> versus a regular. >> hab to bring the case. >> wait, wait, wait. hold on, somebody has got to do what? >> i think someone has to bring a case then in order to find the must compel the states to follow the law. right now there is no individual you know suing the sheriff. >> correct....
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i think ms. davisas offered that and that would be to stamp the licenses either by a notary or to have rowan county on them and she would file them as she does any other contract. it's as if she's giving specific approval to a religious objection. so i thought there was an in between, between continuing to issue contracts -- and i think adults have the right to have a contract -- but there's a place for people who have a religious objection not to have to sign something and give their stamp of approval to something they disapprove of. >> we'll see if that can be finessed in kentucky, your home state. >>> let's talk about taxes. you've unveiled your own major tax plan, jeb bush unveiling a tax plan that would in effect raise taxes for hedge fund managers, basically that's what donald trump wants to do as well, lowering individual and corporate tax rates as at the same time. what's your reaction? i don't know if you had a chance to review jeb bush's tax proposals. compare and contrast his with yours. >>
i think ms. davisas offered that and that would be to stamp the licenses either by a notary or to have rowan county on them and she would file them as she does any other contract. it's as if she's giving specific approval to a religious objection. so i thought there was an in between, between continuing to issue contracts -- and i think adults have the right to have a contract -- but there's a place for people who have a religious objection not to have to sign something and give their stamp of...
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office has to follow the law, and in this case the government office of the county clerk's office, ms. davisas deputy did not issue licenses that were lawful and belonged in our civil rights. you can't use the government office to portray or really to use your religion against others' rights. >> uh-huh. uh-huh. i know you said you're sorry to see davis was jailed and it took a federal judge to get compliance, however, davis as an elected official cannot be fired, so what would you like to see happen to her? >> well, she really has the key to getting herself out. that is to either say that she will not impede the issuance of licenses here in rowan county, or it is to resign, or it is to remain in jail. that is her decision. our legal counsel actually offered that we were okay with releasing kim as long as she did not impede the process of issuances of licenses here. i don't know what will happen. do i have a preference? that's up to kim. i can't make that decision for her. >> all right. well, it's a very generous spirit that you're expressing, april miller. best wishes at both you and i hope
office has to follow the law, and in this case the government office of the county clerk's office, ms. davisas deputy did not issue licenses that were lawful and belonged in our civil rights. you can't use the government office to portray or really to use your religion against others' rights. >> uh-huh. uh-huh. i know you said you're sorry to see davis was jailed and it took a federal judge to get compliance, however, davis as an elected official cannot be fired, so what would you like to...
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. >> you are the advisor to ms. davis> going back to work on monday and you tell her to do what? >> i tell her to go back to work and ask that her second in charge be the one to verify these licenses. now, she has said she is not going to do that but i would not tell her to resign, but i would figure out some way to make an accommodation where she can keep her job but allow. >> there are all kinds of ways to do that, you know they have. >> you are asking what i would tell her to do. keep your job but make sure that you are not violating the rule of law which san oath that she took to uphold. >> don't you think that she wants to be a martyr to the cause of christianity? don't you think she does. >> i do. >> i do, too. >> i do too. >> you know what? there is nothing wrong with that jessica. if you want to be a martyr to the cause of crution grant and you really in your heart believe you are doing the right thing in a moral sense, because of your belief system, it's like the vietnam conscientious on tores. you know, they did
. >> you are the advisor to ms. davis> going back to work on monday and you tell her to do what? >> i tell her to go back to work and ask that her second in charge be the one to verify these licenses. now, she has said she is not going to do that but i would not tell her to resign, but i would figure out some way to make an accommodation where she can keep her job but allow. >> there are all kinds of ways to do that, you know they have. >> you are asking what i would...
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suddenly ms. davishas become the story with various media outlets reporting on her past marriages, her divorces and children who may have been born out of wedlock. dana loesch is the host of day dana. and the allegation is that she is a hypocrite for in their view judging other people's lifestyles while not living up to the christian standards herself. >> right, thanks for having me back. i love the headline over at the federalist today. basically kim davis is being condemned because she wasn't following the christian faith before he became a christian tour years ago. >> sometimes a christian has difficulty doing it. >> exactly. they're condemning her, she's been married four times, she had a set of twins out of wedlock, which i've never heard the progressives use that phrase. and it's so similar. remember what they did back to brendon ike, the former ceo of mozilla. they went after him when they found that he had privately donated money to the prop 8. they ran him completely out and they're doing the s
suddenly ms. davishas become the story with various media outlets reporting on her past marriages, her divorces and children who may have been born out of wedlock. dana loesch is the host of day dana. and the allegation is that she is a hypocrite for in their view judging other people's lifestyles while not living up to the christian standards herself. >> right, thanks for having me back. i love the headline over at the federalist today. basically kim davis is being condemned because she...
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the problem with ms. davis she took a job and a county clerk and her job is to issue licenses to people who are legally justified to have them. she doesn't decide whether they are legally justified. she decides whether they meet the criteria and that criteria comes from the law and not from her and not from her faith and this creates a terrible problem for her but it will not be resolved in the courts because it's already been resolved. either she must resign or i'm afraid she may be heading back to prison. >> the judge made that clear today, if she doesn't issue l licenses, that's where she will be going. >>> "outfront" next, among donald trump's family a sister who is a pro-choice federal judge and brother that died of alcoholism. our report on trump's siblings and two brothers described as polite young men under arrest for allegedly trying to kill their parents and burn down their home. we have the mother's terrified call. >>> a british awares flight caught fire. block smoke rising, passengers forced to evac
the problem with ms. davis she took a job and a county clerk and her job is to issue licenses to people who are legally justified to have them. she doesn't decide whether they are legally justified. she decides whether they meet the criteria and that criteria comes from the law and not from her and not from her faith and this creates a terrible problem for her but it will not be resolved in the courts because it's already been resolved. either she must resign or i'm afraid she may be heading...
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deputy owho was allowed to issue the same-sex marriage licenses, and his concern to judge is that ms. davisbacking off of the promise to not get in the way of his way or the clerk's way, but she is getting her own accommodation, but can she do that? as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today, jason chose aleve. aleve, all day strong. and try aleve pm, now with an easy open cap. awe believe active management can protect capital long term. active management can tap global insights. active management can take calculated risks. active management can seek to outperform. because active investment management isn't reactive. it's active. that's the power of active management. (patrick 2) pretty great.ke to be the boss of you? (patrick 1) how about a 10% raise? (patrick 2) how about 20? (patrick 1) how about done? (patrick 2) that's the kind of control i like... ...and that's what they give me at national car rental. i can choose any car in the aisle i
deputy owho was allowed to issue the same-sex marriage licenses, and his concern to judge is that ms. davisbacking off of the promise to not get in the way of his way or the clerk's way, but she is getting her own accommodation, but can she do that? as lines grow longer, his pain continues to linger. but after a long day of helping others, he gets some helpful advice. just two aleve have the strength to keep back pain away all day. today, jason chose aleve. aleve, all day strong. and try aleve...
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when ms. davisack, i'll still issue licenses. >> sarah dallof is covering the story for us in moorhead, kentucky. when do we expect davis back at work and what can you tell us in the day after, an event for many people meaningful or others saw it as spectacle? >> reporter: hi, ari. kim davis out of jail. that jubilant crowd cheering for her. but not back at work yet. the attorneys indicate she could return as early as tomorrow or friday. she is taking today for certain to regroup at home with her friends an family. she is ordered as part of the release not to interfere with the deputy clerks issuing the marriage licenses. they started doing that on friday. however, her lawyers say she hasn't exactly told them she'll comply with the order. >> kim davis is the only person that can decide what kim davis will do. what i know right now is what she has told the court and everyone else and that is that she will not under any circumstances violate her conscience and the core of who she is. >> reporter: ambi
when ms. davisack, i'll still issue licenses. >> sarah dallof is covering the story for us in moorhead, kentucky. when do we expect davis back at work and what can you tell us in the day after, an event for many people meaningful or others saw it as spectacle? >> reporter: hi, ari. kim davis out of jail. that jubilant crowd cheering for her. but not back at work yet. the attorneys indicate she could return as early as tomorrow or friday. she is taking today for certain to regroup at...
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she was released on tuesday to a cheering crowd of supporters and now ms. davis's returning to work on monday and suggesting that the licenses that have been issued in her absence may be null and void. an attorney representing kim davis is here. matt thank you for being here. what do we expect from kim on monday? >> well what we expect from kim on monday she's going to go back to work. she loves her job. he loves people. she loves god and she wants to balance all three of those. she will return to work on monday. she'll do her work. i can tell you the two big questions are whether she's going to resign and whether she's going to issue licenses on same-sex marriages. on the first within i know for a fact that she's not going to resign. aenl the only way she could be removed from office is by impeachment. i think what they'll do is issue legislation that accommodates her and other people's religious freedom. so the real question is what she's going to do. i don't know the answer to that. only kim knows the answer to that. i do know in talking to kim and being with
she was released on tuesday to a cheering crowd of supporters and now ms. davis's returning to work on monday and suggesting that the licenses that have been issued in her absence may be null and void. an attorney representing kim davis is here. matt thank you for being here. what do we expect from kim on monday? >> well what we expect from kim on monday she's going to go back to work. she loves her job. he loves people. she loves god and she wants to balance all three of those. she will...
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i think ms. davis has been bombarded unjustly. governor was sympathetic to her or everyone in the case it could end rather quickly. >> mr. davis, i want to get this clear for the moment. you actually believe that you don't have to treat, according to federal law, that you do not have to treat all applicants for marriage licenses equally? that they should enjoy the same process on marriage licenses? you think that the supreme court did not say that? >> i think that the law of the land as i keep hearing this referred to, i think the law of the land also says that abortion is legal. however, a doctor has the right to say no, i can't perform that. >> a doctor is not a government official. a doctor is not a government official. >> he's an american. >> you are a government official. you have taken an oath to do this job and to observe the laws. >> do you mind if i tell you what sections 36 -- section 26 of the kentucky constitution says this, that to guard against transgression of the high powers which we have delegated, we declare that
i think ms. davis has been bombarded unjustly. governor was sympathetic to her or everyone in the case it could end rather quickly. >> mr. davis, i want to get this clear for the moment. you actually believe that you don't have to treat, according to federal law, that you do not have to treat all applicants for marriage licenses equally? that they should enjoy the same process on marriage licenses? you think that the supreme court did not say that? >> i think that the law of the...
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ms. davis has maintained that this is a, quote, heaven or hell decision for her. she has been held repeated by the court toish u those licenses and she has steadfastly refused. she is now in custody and being held in contempt of court. >>> let's take a look at what the market sup to because the nasdaq has now turned negative, the other two indices are sitting at the lows of the day, the dow only up by 38 points, the s&p is up by only 4, the russell has also turned negative. wti crude has also come off its highs of the day, still moving higher by 1% but not as good as where we were sitting earlier on. 46.72. print at 50.60. >> it was interesting because we were getting up to that resistance level of $40 a barrel now we are under $47 at this point. it's been a difficult thing to discern whether or not the oil is driving the market or market is driving oil. bearish factors jed seem to be shrugged off by this market in terms of the wti trade, traders telling me they do suspect to see buying going into the weekend, especially because it's a long three-day weekend barri
ms. davis has maintained that this is a, quote, heaven or hell decision for her. she has been held repeated by the court toish u those licenses and she has steadfastly refused. she is now in custody and being held in contempt of court. >>> let's take a look at what the market sup to because the nasdaq has now turned negative, the other two indices are sitting at the lows of the day, the dow only up by 38 points, the s&p is up by only 4, the russell has also turned negative. wti...
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she has said, like you, that she respects ms. davis' beliefs, her religious beliefs, but she also says she's a government employee and she should be executing the will of the government, and if she doesn't want to do that, then she should get a new job. >> i think one thing we haven't debated enough is what actually is the law. is the law every county clerk in kentucky has to sign a marriage certificate? is a notary of the public, is that sufficient? is the clerk's job to execute and to file a contract or is it to sign their approval? i think there's a lot of different ways around this that don't lead to conflict that lead to more time when people can try to persuade others of their opinion on what marriage should be. i think this is a real mistake and even those on the other side of the issue, those who want to support a new definition for marriage, i think it sets their movement back because it's seen as the federal government's going to come in with bully force and even police power and incarcerate people. i think this is a huge mis
she has said, like you, that she respects ms. davis' beliefs, her religious beliefs, but she also says she's a government employee and she should be executing the will of the government, and if she doesn't want to do that, then she should get a new job. >> i think one thing we haven't debated enough is what actually is the law. is the law every county clerk in kentucky has to sign a marriage certificate? is a notary of the public, is that sufficient? is the clerk's job to execute and to...
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so it's clear the judge has decided it's time for ms. davis to go home. if she goes back to work -- if she can not do that from her conscience point of view perhaps she can allow the other clerks to do so. >> michele, what's your reaction? >> i think it shows a victory for people who went to the polls in state after state after state and voted on putting the definition of marriage in their state constitutions and all of the collective voices of people across the united states who believed in marriage as one man, one woman, was swept away by five voices on the united states supreme court. that's what's at issue here, judicial activism and this story isn't over. >> but isn't the supreme court decision supposed to be the law of the land after they interpret what the law is? >> well, the law of the land is what congress and the president and the people's voices are and the state. we have a real perversion now where the supreme court has made itself a superlegislature in contravention of the constitution. >> equal justice under the law is inspired not just in
so it's clear the judge has decided it's time for ms. davis to go home. if she goes back to work -- if she can not do that from her conscience point of view perhaps she can allow the other clerks to do so. >> michele, what's your reaction? >> i think it shows a victory for people who went to the polls in state after state after state and voted on putting the definition of marriage in their state constitutions and all of the collective voices of people across the united states who...
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our position about ms. davis is quite clear that the president believes strongly in the rule of law. >> i want to talk about this secret meeting with dean ofurse line college's school of graduate and professional studies. gina, let me start with you. i'm curious about -- we know about this story apparently through lawyers for kim davis. they put this out. do we know anything more about the circumstances of how this meeting came about? how she landed on pope francis's radar? how this was scheduled, what kind of briefing he had and information he had. do we have knowledge about that? >> steve, thank you so much for having me. that's a great question. i don't think there is a great deal of knowledge about how this came about but certainly this has been a major issue going on in the united states and the u.s. bishops did arrange the visit for pope francis and created his schedule. given that marriage equality is such an incredible issue happening right now in the u.s. and that the catholic church continues to take a
our position about ms. davis is quite clear that the president believes strongly in the rule of law. >> i want to talk about this secret meeting with dean ofurse line college's school of graduate and professional studies. gina, let me start with you. i'm curious about -- we know about this story apparently through lawyers for kim davis. they put this out. do we know anything more about the circumstances of how this meeting came about? how she landed on pope francis's radar? how this was...
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>> well, second hand, i think what i would say is our position about ms. davis is quite clear.he president believes strongly in the rule of law and that's a principle that applies to those engaged in public service starting at the level of the president of the united states but going down to the level of the rowan county clerk in kentucky. alexis? >> reporter: following up on some of the comments on television about the benghazi team. a spokesman today is say ing that they believe the benghazi committee has nothing do with politics. >> oh! [ laughter ] that's an interesting spin, huh? >> i was wondering what the white house reaction to congressman mccarthy's remarks might be and whether there is a difference of opinion about whether the committee is interested in politics and specifically secretary clinton. >> i think everybody here at the white house takes mr. mccarthy at his word, congressman mccarthy at his word. i think the thing that's happener here is that leader mccarthy has committed the classic washington gaffe of saying something that everybody already knows is true.
>> well, second hand, i think what i would say is our position about ms. davis is quite clear.he president believes strongly in the rule of law and that's a principle that applies to those engaged in public service starting at the level of the president of the united states but going down to the level of the rowan county clerk in kentucky. alexis? >> reporter: following up on some of the comments on television about the benghazi team. a spokesman today is say ing that they believe...
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i think ms. davis has to uphold the law or she's always free to find another job.l, he never said, i think he was most likely something like a unitarian, he thought that religion was very important to public life because it turned people toward the good rather than the bad, but he mostly, his most underlying important belief is that each of us ought to be free to worship every wish. now, i'm not sure that this case is the same at that, we're all free to worship as we wish, but if we are in employee of the state, don't we have to enforce the law of the state. this is all very complicated. >> host: how do you pick the charities that the children books go to? >> guest: it seemed to me to put the money to support causes of childrens, also causes of the armed forces, that was very important during the time, still is very important. so i have to say it wasn't as systematize. >> host: 8 million -- >> guest: about a million dollars of the children's books went to charity. he has these things called adoption, which basically are promises that in the future you're going to g
i think ms. davis has to uphold the law or she's always free to find another job.l, he never said, i think he was most likely something like a unitarian, he thought that religion was very important to public life because it turned people toward the good rather than the bad, but he mostly, his most underlying important belief is that each of us ought to be free to worship every wish. now, i'm not sure that this case is the same at that, we're all free to worship as we wish, but if we are in...
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guest: look, i think ms. davis garnered so much public attention, including from presidential candidates because of the over 10,000 public officials who are tasked with inuing marriage licenses this country. there are only a small handful refusing to do their jobs. she is notable because she is an outlier, not because this is a nationwide problem. that is why the presence of candidates are really focusing on her. believe thatdates she is in the right. several others have called on her, including lindsey graham, to simply do her job. host: should she stay on the job? guest: she should either operate i within the law and make sure that the protections for same-sex couples are carried out an issue licenses, or she should consider making alternative arrangements. host: mathew staver, your response? guest: kim davis, like a set, she has been there for 27 years. people want her to stay there. she feels she has a duty to them. on the other hand, she feels conflicted by her conscience. we came here because of conscience it
guest: look, i think ms. davis garnered so much public attention, including from presidential candidates because of the over 10,000 public officials who are tasked with inuing marriage licenses this country. there are only a small handful refusing to do their jobs. she is notable because she is an outlier, not because this is a nationwide problem. that is why the presence of candidates are really focusing on her. believe thatdates she is in the right. several others have called on her,...
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. >> how far is ms. davis willing to take this? ll, a day in this case is like eternity given the action that has been occurring but kim davis is reservoir lut resolute and will take the consequences that come her way but violating her conscious is something she simply cannot do. >> is she willing to do jail time? >> if that is what is required, it would be unfortunate and really a travesty of justice to put kim davis in jail to trying to live to her conscious but if that is the consequence then she is willing to accept that. >> roger again, one of the attorneys for kim davis with the liberty council and thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> president obama today will visit rural alaska towns effected by climate change, the villages are built on rapidly melting perma frost and 100,000 homes are threatened and he saw the exit glacier and it receded a mile and a half in the past 200 years. >> what it indicates because of the changing patterns of winters with less snow, longer, hotter summers, is how rapidly the gl, a c ish -- glac
. >> how far is ms. davis willing to take this? ll, a day in this case is like eternity given the action that has been occurring but kim davis is reservoir lut resolute and will take the consequences that come her way but violating her conscious is something she simply cannot do. >> is she willing to do jail time? >> if that is what is required, it would be unfortunate and really a travesty of justice to put kim davis in jail to trying to live to her conscious but if that is...
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>> i expect them to play out pretty badly for ms. davis.dy been to three different courts asking them to let her to continue to get away with this at least while her appeals play out and the courts including the supreme court told her no. the morning after the supreme court denied her request to not continue not issuing license she in a high profile way refused a license to a same sex couple and the question is not if she is held in contempt i think the questions are how stiff the fines are against her once she is held if contempt. >> penalizing her with a fine if she is found in contempt is to compel her to issue marriage licenses and does kim davis feel she will give in because of a fine and her lawyer told us yesterday she will probably stick to her guns even faced with the possibility of going to jail. >> right, and you know it's interesting that the lawyers for the same sex couples asked at this stage she not be sent to jail. i think folks are concerned about making a martyr after her and trying to have people emulate her because of th
>> i expect them to play out pretty badly for ms. davis.dy been to three different courts asking them to let her to continue to get away with this at least while her appeals play out and the courts including the supreme court told her no. the morning after the supreme court denied her request to not continue not issuing license she in a high profile way refused a license to a same sex couple and the question is not if she is held in contempt i think the questions are how stiff the fines...
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the headline in "the new york -- ms. daviselped ,nravel an uneasy detente declaring a constitutional right to same-sex marriage in june. some republicans rushed to the , aense of miss davis democrat, and other public employees who say sanctioning same-sex marriage undermines their religion. those who have come to her defense, mike huckabee. he is holding a rally on tuesday outside the jail where davis is being held. that is happening at 3:00 on tuesday, along with tony perkins of the family research council and other supporters of campaign .his -- kim davis others who have been vocal about this, senator ted cruz of texas. in part, from his statement, i call on every lover of liberty kimstand with cam davis -- davis. here he is from an appearance on fox news on thursday. [video clip] let me put out to all those who say that kim davis should resign from her office. what happened those voices to declare the mayor of san francisco to leave office. have beenitizens murdered because of the mayor's violation of law. where are those v
the headline in "the new york -- ms. daviselped ,nravel an uneasy detente declaring a constitutional right to same-sex marriage in june. some republicans rushed to the , aense of miss davis democrat, and other public employees who say sanctioning same-sex marriage undermines their religion. those who have come to her defense, mike huckabee. he is holding a rally on tuesday outside the jail where davis is being held. that is happening at 3:00 on tuesday, along with tony perkins of the...
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. >> attorneys representing same-sex couples here have asked the judge to fine ms. davis.hey have not asked for jail time though the judge could impose it if he chooses to. norah? >> dean, thank you. >>> china is flexing its military muscle off the coast of alaska. the pentagon says five chinese navy ships are in the bering sea. it's the first time the u.s. military has seen chinese warships in the area. it follows a massive display of force by china's military at a parade in beijing. seth doane is in the chinese capital. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. china will reduce its military by 300,000 troops. that's the big news coming out of this massive military parade in beijing today. it marks 70 years since the japanese surrendered at the end of world war ii. ♪ against the backdrop of the largest military parade in modern china, president xi announced the troop redeteuctio and pledged peace saying the experience of war makes people value peace even more. xi inspected some of the 12,000 troops taking part. a traction of the 2.3 million currently serving in the people
. >> attorneys representing same-sex couples here have asked the judge to fine ms. davis.hey have not asked for jail time though the judge could impose it if he chooses to. norah? >> dean, thank you. >>> china is flexing its military muscle off the coast of alaska. the pentagon says five chinese navy ships are in the bering sea. it's the first time the u.s. military has seen chinese warships in the area. it follows a massive display of force by china's military at a parade...
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to speak, and they are doing the duties imposed on them, and i said, what is going to happen when ms. davishey said, they don't know, and so it is one of those that is where everybody is hanging what they don't know, and will she not issue the license, and nen we are back to those. >> and she is scheduled to appear again to work friday. martin savidge, thank you. >>> and you could see the smoke, and one of the passengers said that the plane had just caught on fire. y insurance company understands the life behind it. those who have served our nation. have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. the uncertainties i don't wantof hep c.with or wonder... ...whether i should seek treatment. i am ready. because today there's harvoni. a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. harvoni is proven to cure up to 99% of patients... ...who've had no prior treatment. it's the one and only cure that's... ...one pill, once a day for 12 weeks. certain patie
to speak, and they are doing the duties imposed on them, and i said, what is going to happen when ms. davishey said, they don't know, and so it is one of those that is where everybody is hanging what they don't know, and will she not issue the license, and nen we are back to those. >> and she is scheduled to appear again to work friday. martin savidge, thank you. >>> and you could see the smoke, and one of the passengers said that the plane had just caught on fire. y insurance...
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. >> ms. davis is in an unfortunate situation. she is not above the law. that's where we are. e's not a martyr. >> joe davis is kim davis' husband. >> she is in good spirits. i spoke to her twice yesterday. >> will they let her out? no, they're not going to let her out and she's not going to bow. i promise you that. >> how long will she stay? >> as long as it takes. >> reporter: other couples are expected here to take advantage of this new policy. meanwhile, kim davis, the clerk, remains behind bars for disobeying a judge's order and her husband says she has not changed her mind. >> dean, thanks. >>> vice president joe biden is responding to the speculation over a possible white house bid. he talked to a group in atlanta thursday about whether he'll challenge hillary clinton for the democratic presidential nomination. nancy cordes is in washington with his very candid answer. good morning. >> good morning. these were his first public comments about it since the death of his son, and they were very raw. he's trying to figure out if he has at he calls the emotional energy to run.
. >> ms. davis is in an unfortunate situation. she is not above the law. that's where we are. e's not a martyr. >> joe davis is kim davis' husband. >> she is in good spirits. i spoke to her twice yesterday. >> will they let her out? no, they're not going to let her out and she's not going to bow. i promise you that. >> how long will she stay? >> as long as it takes. >> reporter: other couples are expected here to take advantage of this new policy....