ms. abrams: -- about all these issues. ms. abrams: eight years of secretary of state where he held 50,000 voters hostage, 70% of whom were african-american. he removed 300 60,000 people from the rolls during one of his infamous purges. our lawsuit was not against sb 202. it was based on the 2018 election and that lawsuit. we saw dramatic changes to voting laws in the state of georgia. that lawsuit compelled the state of georgia in 2019 to fix our absentee ballot rules, address challenges with the exact mass issue, except -- address issues with purging. we saw a record turnout in 2020 and 2021. what brian kemp said was that he was upset without the results of that election. he wasn't upset, he knows there was no fraud, he was upset about the results. the only result he could have been upset about was the record turnout of black and brown people, seniors, people being kept out of the system. i spent already years of my life defending the right to vote defending access to the right to vote. the right to vote is sacred to me. my fa

ms. abrams get away with this. please, fact check the bill, reach out to our campaign, we'll be glad to send you the facts. >> thank you. i'm up against a break. i assure our viewers we will be covering many more topics. we're going to take a quick break right now. you're watching the wsb governor's debate live right here from our studios. we'll be back in 60 seconds. ♪ welcome back to the georgia governor's debate, live from our wsb-tv studios here in midtown atlanta. so let's continue right now and let's bring in wsb's congresswoman presley for our next question. >> thank you, justin, and thank you, candidates, for being with us tonight. while georgia may be the best state to do business, a lack of affordable housing, especially houses at that $300,000 price point or below, the lack of those homes threaten to hinder georgia's efforts to attract even more business to the state. as governor, what is your plan -- and this question is for both candidates -- what is your plan to create more affordable housing here? go

ms. abrams! i see you, set phasers to cameo! it's great to see that stacey abrams has gone boldly where no one has gone before, paramount+. we will be chatting to ms. abrams later in the show so we will get back to that. but right now, right now, let's focus on a senate showdown that has ramifications even beyond georgia. it is between democratic senator raphael warnock and republican candidate herschel walker. yes. [boos] now, warnock's campaign is focused on abortion rights and expanding infrastructure. but as election day gets closer, i feel like his campaign ads are more focused on making sure that the race doesn't go any longer than it has to. >> guess who is coming to thanksgiving. >> we brought a friend! >> raphael warnock? >> that's right. i could be interrupting your thanksgiving because if nobody gets 50% of the vote, there will be a runoff, and nobody wants that to happen. i am raphael warnock. and we don't have to mix politics and thanksgiving, that is why i approve this message. >> trevor: can i just say, that is the

ms. abrams that has said she wants to defund the police. you gotta check the record. because ms. abrams on cnn got asked the question would she defund the police and she said yes. >> for the record, adrams told cnn in 2020 yes if need be. though she found the overall question a false choicement but is it? >>> to the west coast now, to oregon, democrats have controlled the governor's mansion there since 1987. but that could change. partially because voters are unhappy about crime rates in portland. where we've seen riots and crime, frankly, out of control. life long democrat joe corillo says he barely recognizes oregon. you see the homelessness, people dying on the streets from overdoses. it's in shambles right now. this year he says he's voting for the republican candidate for governor. in colorado, a state joe biden carried by 13 points. republicans say they see an opening to unseat democratic senator michael bennett. and rising maga star ron desantis mentions crime. >> colorado needs new leadership. joe's focused on building the wall and cracking down on crime. >> we'll talk to

ms. abrams: i know the results are not what we hoped for tonight.d that you are hurting and you are disappointed. i am too. we may not have made it to the finish line, but we ran that race. lisa: a disheartening outcome for a group that votes in high numbers, still waiting for equal representation in politics. joining us to discuss this is nadia brown, the director of the women's and gender studies program at georgetown university. a big year for black women, wins and losses, but why do you think this was a significant year? nadia: because black women continue to run for elected office but not win all the time. because black women are a steadfast voting block and black women have been forcing themselves to be heard in american politics. we see this with grassroots activists and local elected officials and federal government, but we are not always seeing them end up in the positions they ran for. big picture, these women are the stalwarts of american democracy but don't always have the payouts. lisa: doing the work but not always going into office. d

ms. stacey abrams and her gubernatorial bid and it didn't seem to help her very much.unning senator warnock's campaign i would certainly bring in president obama before bringing in president biden. as i have told you before, i don't hate anyone, but at this juncture the biden administration i think is best known for its world-class acuity according to the polls, most americans wouldn't trust president biden to salt the fries at mcdonald's. now, as to georgia, in a 50/50 senate which will have if mr. walker is elected. it would be much easier to beat back the berserk wing of the democratic party. but it's not just about votes in the senate. it's also about values in america, in my opinion. herschel walker understands that vetting people at the border is not racist. it's prudent. herschel walker understands that the criminals are not the good guys. they are the bad guys. herschel walker understands that we need to have an election day, not an election month. and herschel walker understands that arlington national cemetery contains for hundred thousand reasons why you sho

ms. abrams where there is a sizable difference. they do not see it on this issue.s factor contributes to more jordans lacking health insurance, particularly georgians who have less income. there are sizable issues and she raises a good point which is it is easy to become focus on questions of individual scandal or maybe the polish of individual candidates but there are substantive issues that divide the two parties. if stacey abrams were to win, i knew she would -- she said she would push for medicaid expansion. if mr. kemp wins, he has his own issue agenda. in particular, taxes and spendings are issues that republicans have emphasized. while it is easy to sometimes think as politics as a game, the call mentioned i have tried to avoid using words like red and blue and purple. politics is about serious things and they do affect people's lives. while i often find politics interesting and iave followed it my whole life, it is important to step back sometimes and remember it is not just a game. the decisions and the policies that are made to change people's lives or ca

ms. anderson, i enjoyed seeing your lectures on c-span when you speak to college students. my question is, stacey abrams changed her position. she used to be against the idea of requiring people when they vote to present ids. and i heard recently she change her position. could you explain why? >> guest: so part of -- thank you for that question. part of what you were saying has been basically the work of, of the sense that voter ids are reasonable. voter ids are, everybody has an id, and that we have voter fraud, voter fraud, voter fraud. and so that is not too much to ask for people to show an id in order to protect democracy, in order to protect our elections. they look at polls and do something like 70% of americans believe that voter fraud happens on a regular basis or something like that, and 50% believe that it happens regularly. and so coming up against that tied it allows for the discussion about we've got to have laws that protect our voting rights. when that becomes, when the show that runs up against is voter id and you got most americans believing that voter ids are fine, because again becau

ms. anderson i enjoyed seeing you on c-span when you spoke to college students. my question is stacey abrams changed her position. she used to be against the idea of requiring people when they vote to present i.d. and i heard recently she changed her position. can you explain why? >> guest: thank you for that question. part of what you were saying has been basically the work of the sense that voter i.d.s are reasonable. voter i.d.s are -- everybody hass an idea -- an i.d. and we had n voter fraud, voter fraud, voter fraud so it's not too much to ask for people to show an i.d. in order to protect democracy inde order to protect our elections. they looked at polls and it was something like 70% of americans believe that voter fraud happened on a regular basis or something like that. it is% believe it happened regularly and so coming up against that it allows for a discussion about we have got to have laws that protect our voting rights. when that becomes -- a you have voter i.d. and most americans believe voter i.d. again because it plays to middle-class norm and the racial a discrimination tha

ms. anderson i enjoyed seeing your lectures on c-span when you speak to college students. my question is, stacey abramshanged her position. she used to be against the idea of acquiring people when they vote to present i'd d. i heard recently she changed her position. could you check explain why? >> guest: thank you for that question. part of what you are seeing has been basically the work of the sense that voter ids are reasonable. voter ids are everybody has an id. and we have voter fraud. voter fraud. voter fraud. and to show an id in order to protect democracy in order to protect elections. bait looked at polls and something like 70% of americans believe that voter fraud happens on a regular basis or something like that. and 50% believe it happened regularly. and so coming up against that tide, it allows for the discussion about we have got to get laws that protect our voting rights. when that show it runs up against is voter id, then you have got most americans believing voter ids are fine. because again it plays to a middle-class norm. in the racial discrimination that is inherent in the way the s

ms. anderson, i enjoying seeing your lectures on c-span when you speak to college students. but my question is, stacey abrams changed her position. she used to be against the idea of requiring people when they vote to present i.d. and i heard recently she changed her position. could you explain why? >> and so part of -- thank you for that question. part of what you're seeing it has been basically the work of the sense that voter i.d.'s are reasonable. voter i.d.'s are -- everybody has had an i.d. and that we have voter fraud, voter fraud, voter fraud, voter fraud. so that's not too much for people to ask to show i.d. in order to protect democracy. in order to protect our elections. they looked at polls and it's something like 70% of americans believe that voter fraud happens on a regular basis or something like that and 50% believes it happens regularly. and so, coming up against that tide it allows for the discussion about we'd got to have laws that protect our voting rights. when that becomes-- when the show at that it runs up against is it voter i.d., and you've got most americans believing that voter i.d