ms. angela, clerk of the board. relating to my own staff, and others, yes. >> ok. you mentioned one name. angela. you spoke with her on the afternoon of january 4 while you were attending to your -- >> yes, sir. i believe i did and other members of the board. >> can you give us all the names of the people you spoke with during that time period? >> objection. asked and answered. >> no, where i can't. >> i want to say a couple things. mr. wagner, we have a microphone here. i think it would be helpful if you used it to make objections so everybody can hear. is that possible? would you mind moving over there? the second thing is we're now in a very sensitive part of the hearing where we have testimony coming from witnesses, and so we're going to have to be very strict about comments and outbursts from the crowd. i understand you may have -- you may feel like you want to have a reaction, and that's natural. but i would ask you to restrain yourself, because it is important that the we have silence and can focus on the witness and question. if there is an