ms. berman? >> i'm unaware of any discouragement and, to the contrary, we have a system in place where the nhl's centralized security department has contacts at every local team where if something like that was going on, i would hope we'd be hearing about it because it would certainly sly late league policy. >> thank you. >> are you finished? >> yes. >> okay. >> no? >> just an order of appearance. >> sure. >> chair, i defer to senator mccaskill. >> let me correct the record on the nba questions about punishment. i've looked at the articles and the seconds of counseling for violent misconduct. let me make sure the record is clear. the most a commissioner can do for violence without a conviction is counseling, isn't that correct, ms. behrens. >> no, senator, that's not correct. >> what can the commissioner do besides counseling if there's not a conviction? >> the commissioner has discretion under our collective bargaining agreement, which is the discretion that he used in the suspension of jeff tay