ms. blackburn is next for questions. then i will go to mr. shempkis next. >> thank you, we do have two competing panels and i apologize for not hearing all the testimony. let me go to mr. lewis. you mentioned your written testimony the importance of domain name system security, dns sec. can you describe the problem with the problem with domain name system and why dns sec is important? >> i did it again. it's -- i think what you've heard from us all is when the people -- the people who designed the internet designed it as a dod network and then they thought it would grow a little bit. they didn't worry about trust. they didn't worry about authentication. phyllis knew it was her sister on the other end, right? when we did it, we didn't have to worry about this. and so the domain name system, addressing system, is vulnerable to spoofing. it can be manipulated. as you've heard, you can redirect traffic. you any, as far as you can tell on your machine, you're going to a legitimate site and it could instead be the government of iran or russian cybe

ms. blackburn for five minutes. >> thank you all for being here and for your patience with us. i want to say just a couple of things. i think it is so important. anything we do is going to be passe before the ink is dry on what ever it is we do. another thing, we have spent some time on this committee and a trade looking at the issue. there is the data security and a brief vacation issue. it is a component of what we have here. most people do not realize the vulnerability that exists in their home with a computer that is there. i hear about it a lot with my district in tennessee with all the songwriters and entertainers and individuals in financial systems. this is compound in every day. aas we look at the privacy issues, and let me ask you about federal preemption. as you look at our standards, i wonder if you have any thoughts of putting in language and making certain that we are working with this. >> i am supportive of preemptive notification requirements. we have 47 different ones. these are things i have been hammering on. we have to understand that it involves costs. we c

ms. blackburn for five minute questions. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, all, with your patience with us. i just want to say a couple of things. i think it is so important that the industry lead on this. anything that we do as different members have said today is going to be passe before the ink is dry on whatever it is that we do, and so as we look at the security issues, i think that your guidance is there. another thing that i -- we have spent some time in this committee and also in cmt, commerce manufacturing and trade, looking at the issue of privacy, and the data security issue, the breach note any cation -- notification issue, which is a component of what we have here, and quite frankly, i think that most people do not realize the vulnerability that exists in there home with a computer that is there, and believe you me, i hear about it a lot. with my district in tennessee, with all the song writers and entertainers, and the individuals that are in logistics information or financial service information or health care information, auto engi

ms. blackburn will comment. >> this is an extremely important hearing and if we have to elevate the level of discussion and potential solutions. there is only one silver bullet that exists to prevent cyber crime. that is to complete disconnect your computer from any network. use it as a paperweight, maybe just play solitaire. that is it. if you are going to engage in any level of commerce using the internet, you are at risk. the only thing we can do is try to minimize it. there is no silver bullet. why these folks are here today is for us to understand what tools may be available. in the cyber task force, one of the things we concluded is that the vast majority of everyday hackings can maybe not be prevented, but just go along with basic security features offered by private sector today or the networks. but we have to have people to actually purchase those or use those tools. there was one instance in omaha with the entity that controls our facility that never thought it was important to have that kind of security. they were hacked, and all the information was stolen. the next level is wh

ms. blackburn for five minutes. >> thank you all for being here and for your patience with us. i want to say just a couple of things. i think it is so important. the industry needs to lead on this. anything we do is going to be passe before the ink is dry on what ever it is we do. another thing, we have spent some time on this committee and a trade looking at the issue. there is the data security and a brief vacation issue. it is a component of what we have here. most people do not realize the vulnerability that exists in their home with a computer that is there. i hear about it a lot with my district in tennessee with all the songwriters and entertainers and individuals in financial systems. this is compound in every day. as we look at the privacy issues, and let me ask you about federal preemption. as you look at our standards, i wonder if you have any thoughts of putting in language and making certain that we are working with this. >> i am supportive of preemptive notification requirements. we have 47 different ones. these are things i have been hammering on. we have to unde

ms. castor votes aye. chairman upton. votes no. >> other members wishing? mr. barton. >> mr. barton votes no. mrs. blackburn votes no. mr. gartner? mr. marky. >> no. mr. marky votes aye. >> mr. paloan. >> votes aye. >> other members wishing to cast a vote? seeing none, the clerk will report the tally. mr. waxman? >> mr. waxman votes aye. mr. chairman, there were 19 ayes and 34 nays. >> 19 ayes, 3434 n nays. >> correct. >> not agreed to. >> i would like the record to indicate the brocaw vote had i been here i would have voted no. i had a constituent, but had i been here, i would have voted no, please. >> fine. >> the vote tallied stays the same, but we will note that for the record. the dingle amendment is not agreed to. the next is the eschew amendment. the clerk will call the roll. >> mr. barton votes no. mr. sterns votes no. mr. whitfield votes no. mr. shim kiss votes no. mr. pits votes no. mrs. bono mac votes no. mr. walden votes no. mr. terry votes no. mr. rogers votes no. mr. mi rick votes no. mr. sullivan votes no. mr. murphy votes no. mr. burgess votes no. mrs. blackburn votes no. mr. bill brick e bray votes no. m