ms. blain: so, that paper i shared based on the life of a woman -- i spoke about her. she is a working-class white woman from detroit. i spoke about the way she engaged in this concept of lacking to nationalism. forging alliances with asian activists in particular. part of it -- this particular panel were trying to think about ways these actors who we talk about working-class black women or working for black women, can be thought of as key political shapers of the 20th century. steve: these are people who would not come to mind if you talk about this time or the civil rights movement. ms. blain: right. steve: how do you find out about them? where do you go? ms. blain: a lot of digging to be sure. got inf these activists trouble for their ideas. i had to go through fbi records, for example to find more information. or they would write letters to each other area i would go through different archives to find them. articlesctually wrote for the detroit independent tribune. i had to go through that