ms. brooks, it is only fair to leave that subject until we have heard from her. >> mr. murdoch, we're not getting into mrs. brooks. >> thank you. >> we're getting into another topic, the brand, the term you use in relation to the sun and the news of the world, can i ask you please to look at paragraph 73 of your witness statement? page 03006, fourth line, reference to the brand definition of the news of the world that you say was fairly consistent over the last 30 years. do you see that? >> yes. >> how would you define the brand definition of the news of the world. >> campaigning newspaper, i think i when i first there, interested more in covering the courts and over the country which were not covered by other newspapers then except very quickly the data telegraph which covered them in greater and grimier detail but smaller type. yes, we did, went from more of a court coverage to being more of a campaigning. >> you were careful want to include within the parameters of that an interest in celebrity gossip, kiss and tell stories, intrusion into the sex lives of celebrities

ms. lam, for clarification, the stoney ford for stony brook move for the 9-11 border would go into -- >> from nine -- >> from 11 to nine. >> right. >> and then bringing the tingley out of eight into 11. we need to see the population variance for those two moves. i am not interested in the st. luke's move. i don't know if that would get us close enough. >> what he identified in the rotation were three, relatively-speaking approximately 800 populations. that is the puzzle move. >> no. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. mrs. mondejar. -- m's melara. i am not interested in changing our decision we made last time, primarily we made it very deliberately. when the community comes tonight and says you took away this piece, they were not taking into consideration what it would cost elsewhere in their district. we moved something in their district, and next week the people will come back saying you shouldn't have done that. so let's leave it where it is. so no, no, no. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. that's clear. mr. leigh? >> can i ask a question? does the second move require moving st. luke's? chair

ms. brooks i supported that appointment. >> did you know what his political views were? >> i didn't, actually. to be honest with you, i don't. >> did you -- do you suspect what they are? >> i think the selection of an editor, mr. jay is not simply around political views of an editor, it's the ability of the editor perhaps to lead the newsroom, it's the ability of the editor to make judgments about what to put in the paper every day. it's the ability of the editor to be thoughtful about his or her readers to react to what goes in the paper. it's not simply a political exercise. >> is any part of the decision making in respect to mr. moen's appointment based on this, that you felt that he understood what you and your father wanted, in particular in relation to political lines to take and selection time? >> -- at election time? >> it was not really on my concerns. he would be reporting to mrs. brooks who was -- who had taken over as chief executive and he was her recommendation and well respected. i thought it was a good idea. >> you this knew what mrs. brooks' position was

. >> also endorsed by the brookings institution -- it's important. ms. miller, could you tell me why you've endorsed the i.r.a. proposal that i've offered? >> yes. we're very supportive, because it really does build on the current employer structure. and we think once employers -- first of all, people need to have an opportunity to save at work. and you just can't do that without having the employer involved. when you get over that hurdle, then we feel that once employers are used to doing payroll deduction, and feel comfortable with that, it will be easier to approach them and is say, listen, you've been doing this, can you afford to do a little more? maybe a simple plan would work for you. or a 401(k), and once they're in the system, they'll feel more comfortable moving up and providing some employer contributions as well. >> and we require no matching contribution from the employer. >> require no matching contribution from the employer. and just the way -- you know, 30 years ago, a different story. but right now, the -- with the development of electro

ms. lam, for clarification, the stoney ford for stony brook move for the 9-11 border would go into --

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