ms. bryant talking about how the snapshots provide one perspective but they provide a perspective and that's great to see. i was wondering -- i know there is a lot of evaluation for preschool for all but i assume there are families that go to private school and catholic school and is there a sense if we add those families in what percentage we're hitting? >> we have a good sense of the nonprofit privates that are not part of pfa and the reasons are they're choosing not to come in and we can get that number because we know the lay of the land. >> i am curious why they don't choose and families choose otherwise and i am curious of the overall penetration rate of those attending preschool. >> like we said we have a 83% penetration rate in preschool, a little less in terms of pfa but we have a high rate and why we stand out compared to other communities. >> do we know how we do compared to other cities? >> yeah, we're way, way above and aarony duncan -- >> yeah, maybe everyone realizes that and how successful we have been around pre-k and a lot of mayoral speeches in new york and oakland and aro