so ms. capps, i believe you were here. recognize you for a period of five minutes. >> well, thank you, mr. chairman, because i know mr. markey also was here and wants to speak. i'm asking mr. markey, do you want some of my time? would you like some of my time? maybe it's not -- okay. i'll do it. i'm -- i come from an area that is energy producing as well, and i am very impressed with, i have one image in my mind, because it was you, mr. pool, when you were in charge of the blm for the city of california and i was newly elected who escorted me for the first time to see what we call the shangri la of the west. the credo plain eastern portion of san los business pispo county the land was 300 years ago in which all of the vested interest, the mineral rights, the cattle ranchers and all of the stakeholders have found a way to preserve the natural history, under the leadership of the blm and also make that an economically viable area. oil and gas industry have all had their role there, and i picture this pipeline going through t

so, ms. capps, i believe you were here, so i recognize you for a period of five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. because i know mr. markey also was here and wants to speak, i'm asking mr. markey, do you want some of my time? would you like some of my time? maybe it's not -- okay. i'll do it. i'm, i come from an area that is energy producing as well, and i am very impressed with -- i have one image in my mind because it was you, many pool, when you were in charge of the blm for the state of california, and i was newly elected who escorted me for the first time to see what we call the shangri la of the west, the chor rizzo plain, eastern portion of san luis obispo county, a remnant of the way the land was 300 years ago in which all of the vested interests, the mineral rights, the cattle ranchers and all of the stakeholders have found a way to preserve the natural history under the leadership of the blm. and also make that an economically-viable area. um, oil and gas industry have all, have their