ms. lassiter or carroll in ohio, who are now being called to go to quite extraordinary lengths to prove who they are in order to get an idea to go vote. we do not see that there is any justification for these laws, that they're not -- that they are doing much more harm than good. participation and our process is key. our whole history has been an expansion of that participation, particularly over the last 50 years, and these laws run the risk and stand in the way a full voter participation. our problem is not that too many people are registered. our problem is too few people are registering and participating. >> senator grassley? >> i missed mr. carvin's subtleties, but i did hear him say that corporations have not been spending money on this candidate or that candidate. i cannot speak about what they have spent under citizens united, but i have been following corporations and unions, who did they give their money to for a long period of time, and i find unions to be pretty intellectually honest from election to election, giving about 95% of their money to democrats and 5% to republicans. i