ms. cartagena, you have any -- one moment. is there public comment? please step forward. >> you have to pull the microphone. cause i am worried about the money. i had no idea you had to pay a lot of money for the permit. i got into an accident. my kids before my mortgage. this is the reason i cannot do that. i cannot fix anything that year. >> thank you. >> mr. duffy? commissioner, the matter is submitted. >> can i ask one more question of mr. duffy? were you able to see the unit? and you have a sense of when it was constructed? >> i do not see that on the notice of violation. they said when they were when -- when they went they saw this illegal units. i did notice from the property profile that the owner -- >> it is conceivable it was not there. >> she said when she bought it, thinking her family was going to move in downstairs. when they moved out, they rented it out. it probably was there before she got it sure it -- bought it. >> the penalty is $2,000. and my looking at the right information? -- am i looking at the right information? >> it is nine