ms. chapman. next speaker, please. >> caller: can you hear me now? >> chairman: please proceed. >> caller: good morning. david pilpel. several comments on this. i think it's important to make this workable. i think ethics is absolutely critical here with regulations, forms, and examples. whether you write it into the legislation or not, you may want to think about notice to various actors such as a notice to

ms. chapman. next speaker, please. >> caller: can you hear me now? >> chairman: please proceed. >> caller: good morning. david pilpel. several comments on this. i think it's important to make this workable. i think ethics is absolutely critical here with regulations, forms, and examples. whether you write it into the legislation or not, you may want to think about notice to various actors such as a notice to members of a nonprofit board if there's -- if they're prohibited from conduct for six months or whatever so that they are on notice that their certain conduct is prohibited, perhaps requiring training for those actors. certainly, you could require training or enhanced training for city department heads, members of boards and commission, city employees, on specific suggestions on page one, line 16, i believe 'and' should come back in before the deleting portion. let's see what else. on page 3, line 15, i think that should be indented on the reference to interested party. on page 6, line 7, you just had a brief discussion about public appeal. i'm n

ms. chapman. next speaker, please. >> caller: can you hear me now? >> chairman: please proceed. >> caller: good morning. david pilpel. several comments on this. i think it's important to make this workable. i think ethics is absolutely critical here with regulations, forms, and examples. whether you write it into the legislation or not, you may want to think about notice to various actors such as a notice to members of a nonprofit board if there's -- if they're prohibited from conduct for six months or whatever so that they are on notice that their certain conduct is prohibited, perhaps requiring training for those actors. certainly, you could require training or enhanced training for city department heads, members of boards and commission, city employees, on specific suggestions on page one, line 16, i believe 'and' should come back in before the deleting portion. let's see what else. on page 3, line 15, i think that should be indented on the reference to interested party. on page 6, line 7, you just had a brief discussion about public appeal. i'm n

ms. chapman, if you press star 3 again, i will unmute you. >> caller: hello. i live in district 3. i applied to be in the lottery 14 months ago. there was a lottery year ago. the building management company they've been giving us lip service for about a year. then they started ghosting people and not responding. they say they are financially challenged in regards to this whole meeting. what this meeting is about. they trying to convert studios to one bedroom unit and drive poor people out the building. the thing that's disgusting, the law firm that represents the builder is ran by nancy pelosi's daughter. this is ridiculous. i can't believe this is happening in san francisco. it says things about san francisco and where the city is going. i had to sit through this four-hour hearing. this is ridiculous. the government and planning department should cracking down on people like this. they don't belong in san francisco. i wanted to tell everybody about my experience. it's a super negative experience. i had to go to the city for help and the city couldn't do anything. i think this buil